Deep Impact ... Date With Destiny ....
Well, you KNEW this had to happen ....
NASA's Deep Impact Fly-by spacecraft will carry out a small mid-course trajectory correction today, Wednesday, July 20, 2005 ... which will bring it past the Earth in January, 2008, prior to flying by another comet (still unselected) several years after its successful mission to Comet Tempel 1 ....
Full AP Story here.
July 20th ....
Wouldn't you know ....
On another subject: in a fascinating adjunct to our exposure in yesterday's Captain's Blog -- of the deepening, obvious contradictions between different members of the Deep Impact Imaging Team, re the status of the spacecraft imaging system and its actual images of Comet Tempel 1 -- we can now present another key perspective.
Published by The Washington Post BEFORE the successful July 3rd climax of the Deep Impact Mission, the official assessment of JPL's Project Manager for the Mission, Rick Grammier, on the state of the imaging system just prior to arrival is additional evidence that "all is NOT well politically in Mudville AFTER the close-up images of Tempel 1 came in ...."
"...The 1,325-pound spacecraft, built by Ball Aerospace & Technologies Corp. of Boulder, Colo., has performed almost flawlessly. Engineers detected a blurriness in one of its cameras early in the mission, but they compensated by mathematically sharpening its images. 'In fact, we get somewhat better quality than before,' said JPL's Rick Grammier, the Deep Impact project manager [emphasis added] ...."
Huh!!??
Stay tuned.
79 Comments:
Doesn't NASA know how to check these lenses before they send them up there by now? It was bad enough when Hubble had a lens problem and they used the same excuse about how they couldn't quite get the detailed shots they had hoped for. Then they still managed to do a "mathematical correction" to get some decent shots anyway. The point is, if you're spending $333 Million on a mission, wouldn't one of the steps be to check the damn lenses prior to launch?
Could there be a Deep Impact package drop off from the spacecraft to awaiting NASA officals here on Earth? Or perhaps its a chance to replace the lens.
there is no problem with the lens - MR.FILTER GOT TO GO!
WTF? Everyone call NASA and demand they release the infrared spectrometer data for the tempel 1 mission. and dont stop until they do. send them emails. stick post-it notes one their cars. call your congressmen. call cnn,msnbc,NYT,ect.
wave your arms and jump up and down. spray paint "NASA SUCKS" on the side of your car.....
Im no expert but the lack of any further info since the event seems extremely damning, even if it was blurry they should just admit it and move on, this "silence" only serves to work people up more. But its obvious they're hiding something..also the Cassini fly by of Enceladus has'nt been updated since the closest approach, whats goin on Nasa???!
Look if Aliens exist, we can handle it..the more you hide it from us the more we will want it to be true
OT, but interesting:
White House Memo calls for slashing number of remaining shuttle flights. http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewnews.html?id=1049
While we're petitioning Congress to get NASA to release DI info, we could also demand they release the satellite info about a possible man-made structure below the ice in Antarctica? http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/viewnews.php?id=46104
Huge Starquake just one day after giant Indian Ocean earthquake. http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/050718_star_quake.html
Who approaches the Bridge of Death
Must answer me
These questions three!
Ere the other side he see.
That man-made structure under the ice in Antarctica is none other than Santa's workshop!
Richard,
Where do you think this is all REALLY headed toward?
Ten Alp
Anonymous --- you fail the first test - What is your name?
Silly! Everyone knows Santa lives at the NORTH Pole.
It could be an ancient pyramid housing a Predator combat initiation temple.
To "The Old Man From Scene 24":
The Antarctica structure you mention is from a website that is promoting a FICTIONAL book.
Here's the book:
http://www.lantis.tv/rabook/home.html
Here's the original "story" on the "man-made structure" that your "Unexplained Mysteries" link is quoting:
http://www.lantis.tv/amp/releases/anomaly.html
Q: What do Carl Rove and NASA have in common ?
A: They are all government bureaucrats without one shred of respect for the wishes or well-being of the American people. They have also totally despised the trust that was put in them when they were appointed to their high positions.
If this silence and cover-up from NASA about "Deep Impact" continues as it has in the case of Spirit and Opportunity data, then phone calls, emails and lobbying probably won't be sufficient. A federal class-action lawsuit may be the only possible recourse and that will require patriots with VERY deep pockets. Maybe what we really need is a FREEDOM of SCIENTIFIC INFORMATION ACT that REQUIRES the the speediest possible release of data acquired by projects paid for by the American people !
To "anonymous" and "The Old Man from Scene 24" -
Reminds me of the flap a year or two ago about the "discovery" of the building of a great Ark in anticipation of coming catrastophy - also promoting a fictional work.
Richard,
Regarding you latest blog entry.
Isn't this the point when stuff hits the fan and the press suppose to go bonkers? But they don't and I predict they will not. Why? Because...well, Carl Rove is news and NASA is geeky. 95% of population thinks that stuff floats inside shuttle, because there's no gravity. Now, how in the world can we expect people to be interested in something they have no idea about? Like the saying goes: "it is hard to find a black cat in the dark room, especially when the cat is not there".
I predict NASA will continue to get away with whatever they want and folks will continue to be clueless. I also predict that I will continue thoroughly enjoy your work.
Thank you.
Good-bye Scotty (James D.)
You will be missed by all. You are now part of the final frontier.
Enjoying your blog, Richard. Miss the old days of regular updates!
Guess we need to make some noise and write our elected representatives. I'll call Bill Nelson, our Senator here in Florida!
Thanks, Richard
Oh, YES the timing of the annoucement WAS interesting!
How did the comet get the name Tempel 1?
richard,
what did you think of the Shostak piece?
if the previous incaranations of our race were started on planet v,
and it seems they knew about the planets demise simply
because they/we survived on to mars and earth. wouldn't
that leave alot of organic and artificial material
floating in and around the belt? and wouldn't the ancients
have some form of recordation or myth? is there anything like
that kind of story in the annals of history? maybe in the
sumarian/nefilim/annunaki texts?
oh and count me in on the campaign sir, I am bored quite often and my fax machine stares at me like a hungry basset hound. I'm really tired of traffic also, so I'd like my candy apple red TR-3B as soon as possible. hehe.
justin.
that was me^^ for get my password..
Anonymous said...
How did the comet get the name Tempel 1?
Ernst Tempel discovered it.
Greetings, I have just started a companion blog called Mars Relay station. In it I will be posting a Mars Spirit Rover photo of a strange looking object each day.
I have been following the odd objects on mars story for many a year now and have lots of experience in this area. I have viewed every single Nav cam photo that Spirit has sent back so you will be getting to view only the weirdest strangest things scattered about.
If you don’t like weird stuff disregard this message. Thank you Gerald T
http://marsrelaystation.blogspot.com/
cool pic gerald, but what's with the story?
is it just a ficticious story your going to
put with it or are you making some sort of claim?
just curious.
Richard, I have some scientist friends who are passionate about their work and focus intensely on it while demonstrating a very narrow band of overall understanding or openess. Like a "one trick pony". I'm sure at NASA there are some good people trying to good work yet they are, as you have said, so compartmentalized. As well, thinking this has got to be the best position they could get in their field of study, however limited it may end up being in that structure. Some of what you have touched on reminded me of the story of a company AVRO, which had the best engineering team in the world at the time. They produced the Normanda jet engine, developed a "flying saucer" for the US Air Force and more notably the fastest most advanced fighter of it's time in the 50's and 60's call the AVRO ARROW. Suddenly Prime Minister Deifenbaker cancelled the program and destroyed every last bit of the inventory of the Arrows. If you can't get your big neigbour next door to buy any, cause they didn't invent it, your done and bankrupt. Or perhaps a bigger premise?
Where this got interesting, and well documented in a good movie, was that almost all of that team, about 34 engineers, immediately went to NASA to work on the Apolo Program and eventually some on the Shuttle.
Perhaps you already know the Avro Arrow story, but it persists as an unusual turn of events where a whole team, from Canada is swallowed up by NASA for other agendas obviously more important than advancing atmospheric aviation, even though their "product" was unequaled for more than 10 years and had been the first to effectively break Mack 2 with stability. My father having been a fighter pilot in the 50's Cold War, and was inner circle of aviation often wondered, what that was really all about. Just more of the NASA bullishness, or further developments from the days after Roswell, clearly described by General Corso?
Anonymous
The Antarctica structure you mention is from a website that is promoting a FICTIONAL book.
Ah, that's what they want you to think. They're just preparing the public, making everyone ready to accept the truth about Antarctica, which is that Santa has TWO workshops, one at the North Pole and one at the South. He's getting ready for global warming. When the North polar ice cap melts, his workshop will sink into the sea, and then where will all the little boys and girls get their toys on Christmas Eve?
Also, thanks to the WTO, Santa has been taking advantage of the Antarctic free trade zone. Elves are expensive and penguins will work for herring.
I remember the avro arrow/car story as well ion,
wasn't the avrocar saucer story suppose to be the public cover
for a much more advanced craft? antigrav and such?
or was that just crap?
...just another example of suppressed technology
for the purpose of not disturbing current profit
margin trend. greed and idiocy, great combo eh?
http://deepimpact.jpl.nasa.gov/feedback-form.html
go here and ask NASA Where is our Data. Do it now while you can. hurry.
Professor x,
its hard to find a white cat in a dark room, espeacially if you step on it first.
Justin,
Although I agree with your point... they can't be that big of idiots if they can control, manipulate, deceive and pacify 260 million people.
Wow. Great job Richard! My gut instinct was that the "blurry" camera was just a smoke-screen for something THE FIRST TIME I HEARD ABOUT IT. I don't like conspiracy stuff to be honest, but do feel certain things are top secret. Good job and thanks for the illustrative example of the NASA b.s.
I just meant ididocy in not allowing the technology to benefit man.
they are indeed horribly cleaver in their in control, manipulation and deception.
but not smart in letting the planet spin out of control when
it could have been prevented for the most part long ago.
Hi Justin.
There doesn't seem to be much detail about the saucer ever released. Although there is footage of flight testing, but the unit was using fan blades for thrust, although it was said that their work was more about flight control and maneuverability. You may well be right about the anti-grav angle. That was right at the same time as the Arrow jet and then poof, all gone and so were the engineers.
Your final comment, I so agree with. Was it profit mongering or just nationalistic crap? Perhaps, a we made it not them kind of story, leading to NASA just poaching the leftovers after Canada exhausted it's financial ability with no sales confirmed to the US market. Yet following an incident of a true and very real UFO my father chased in a CF100 over the St Lawrence in the late 50's(?), the US debriefed him here in Canada, so obviously NORAD was a very tight relationship. It was probably all co-operative.
Justin,
I agree completely.
Robert,
Conspiracy is a word designed (spun in the media) to make semi and intelligent people to look at any idea as hogwash and totally without merit.
I prefer to use corruption.
Scotty kinna gi us na mare power, Captain! Mr. Scott has passed away!
Thanks for helping to inspire the dreams, Mr. Doohan!
http://entertainment.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=196936
Hi ion.
yeah Ive seen all the test footage of the avrocars less
than stellar flight tests. I forget were I read that snippit
about the cover story for the antigrav craft, probably buried in ATS somewhere.
but if you look at the old test footage is does kind back
up the fact that it is a cover story, the design is terrible. lol.
with the engine vented down and then rounted out the back and sides through
thoses fins was a nightmare for the powerplant. how in the hell was
that thing suppose to go supersonic?? even if the craft was at a complete 90 degree angle to the ground,
it still would be a like trying to get an underpowered pizza pan flying against the wind to
perform. with all those top engineers at the helm?? I have a hard time buying that
thing that was barely hovering over the tarmac like wobbly coin.
I also had a friend that passed away last year that had an uncle that
was suppossed to have been at montauk afb for the whole demensional portal/creature incident.
they both died before I could meet the uncle. it could have been a lie.
but I knew this friend very well and he was a very honest person. so its
only a frustrating maybe that it was true.
I had a ufo sighting when I was fifteen, I've studied science, physics and aircraft
all my life and there was no way in hell it was anything of conventional origin,
could have been military..but just in the way it moved, I knew instantly.
When Maurice Allais was growing up, his parents owned a small cheese shop. Cheese would figure greatly into Maurice's early life and would influence his entire professional and personal career. His first bed was made out of cheese, as were all the furnishings and indeed, even his clothing. Needless to say, in elementary school he was often harried by small-minded children and small-bodied rodents. His favorite shirt was made of Crottin de Champcol, a versatile goats milk cheese. Pascal Jacquin put a lot of effort into this cheese so that it can be enjoyed from young, for salads and crostini, to old, for grating. Crottin de Champcol is made in the Loire around Sancerre and Berry, and is named for the tiny village of Champcol. Crotin in French means horse or mule dung. Not a particularly appetizing description but nonetheless a rich a flavorful cheese. Crottin Jacquin are produced in Berry, near Cher. Driven to long days of lonely play by cheese-ostracizing peers, young Maurice turned to scientific experiments to fill his time. He built his first cheese pendulum at the age of 8. It was made with Argentinian Reggianito cheese. The vast grazing pastures of Argentina revealed themselves to be ideal for immigrant Italians wishing to produce Parmesian cheeses in the new world. Reggianito translates to little Reggiano, so called because instead of a massive 80 lb. drum, the Reggianito cheese is produced in 15 lb wheels. Reggianito is cured longer than any other South American hard cheese which enhances its flavor. This cheese tastes a little saltier than its namesake, but the white crystals in the Grana are not salt grains, they are due to the lactose in the milk which breaks down into free amino acids. Because the cheese was so hard, it was perfect pendulum building material. It was with this pendulum that Maurice discovered the “Allais Effect”.
Delivering the goods (spectra) to the huddled masses could be short-term political.
ie : an Agency eager to please the Administration might simply withhold data in order to cause/create or sustain a news story that (it is hoped) will compete with an unflattering story about the guy who appointed the appointees.
Hi Justin.
Yes, I always felt the scenes of that aerocar were fake and "cheesy" lol :)
Certainly didn't fit with the Arrow stuff and AVRO's jet engine reputation. That story may never be known, unless a few old Canadians from the days at NASA finally let it out just like Gen. Corso at 84 did about Roswell and his role with regards to the backward engineering of the found technology. See the book: The Day After Roswell. Now those are credentials! Hey, I don't want to be too wordy here. The truth is definately far greater than fiction, isn't it Justin?
good point crypto..
and bloody clever mccheese..
*golf clap*
one thing should be mentioned here.
just because these people are using the numerology of ancient egypt doesnt mean they are the same kind of people with the same ideologies.
in fact i am pretty much sure these people have HIJACKED the numerology and other things from this ancient civilisation and are mis-using it in their own advantage...symbolism is more powerful than just words or deeds even, and these people through their hidden groups over the centuries realised this...
so pls do not insult where it came from, insulting the people who used it in the right way.
I read the book by corso,(my wife and I have a small bookstore,
you can probably guess what my specialty section is. hehe. :))very interesting.
I liked the section about the auroras capibilites and its trips to mars with
the antigrav and pulsejet combo. seems like there might be a bit of embellishment,
but I would say its seems pretty damn credible and true for the most part.
AVRO was a case of American hegemony ... but the Swedes produce fighter airplanes and enjoyed the same 'protection from communism' benefit (from the US) as Canada enjoyed.
The Anglo-American Establishment (Carroll Quigley's definition) contracting out to Wall Stret PR firms, had already planned the PR campaign that would showcase the achievements of capitalism through the Cold War. Mach I. Mach II. Mach III ... and into Space.
It is the timing and back-drop that was changed. Control of the genius minds achieved, how can we tell that the people (behind the scenes) pulling the strings didn't just willingly move their marionettes to a bigger stage ? Like Canadian actors who move to Hollywood ... after all, in WWII and Korea, Canada and the US were on the same team.
Distinguishing spectra from spin is not as difficult when the processing takes longer than the voyage ... and we might be witnessing an unravelling of sorts.
Cryptosemiotician,
>AVRO was a case of American hegemony ....<
Agreed ....
>It is the timing and back-drop that was changed. Control of the genius minds achieved, how can we tell that the people (behind the scenes) pulling the strings didn't just willingly move their marionettes to a bigger stage ? Like Canadian actors who move to Hollywood ... after all, in WWII and Korea, Canada and the US were on the same team.<
Witness: we lost James Doohan today ... a CANADIAN actor ... in a 20th Century AMERICAN classic ... featuring another CANADIAN ... William Shatner.
And, Peter Jennings is also from "up north."
Amazing how many canadians seemed to "go south" to fame ... and fortune. And the Shuttle has a "Canadarm."
And, it doesn't require "two weeks" to pick up something .... :)
Defender,
>Just because these people are using the numerology of ancient egypt doesn't mean they are the same kind of people ... with the same ideologies ....<
TOTALLY AGREE! :)
Anonymous,
>A federal class-action lawsuit may be the only possible recourse and that will require patriots with VERY deep pockets. Maybe what we really need is a FREEDOM of SCIENTIFIC INFORMATION ACT that REQUIRES the the speediest possible release of data acquired by projects paid for by the American people!<
A "Freedom of Scientific Information Act ...."
I LIKE that!!
OK, who would sponsor ...?
Justin,
>What did you think of the Shostak piece?<
Be more specific -- WHAT "Shostak piece?" :)
Hello Richard
Brief intro re: the advanced technologies that will be 'introduced' to us after the soon-to-occur 'watershed event' of our global history...
http://www.paoweb.com/sn012803.htm
Major global announcements & a 'New Reality'(First Contact) soon......
Best Regards Always,
Thomas
Gerald T,
>I have been following the odd objects on mars story for many a year now and have lots of experience in this area. I have viewed every single Nav cam photo that Spirit has sent back so you will be getting to view only the weirdest strangest things scattered about.<
Visited your Relay Station this afternoon. Creative ... eerie ... and very, very sad ....
Precisely the same, inexplicable feeling I got when I looked down at the first Viking images of Cydonia ....
Keep up the good work. :)
Someday, someone will pay attention ... hopefully, before it is too late.
Richard,
Great blog. Following the link provided by
Anonymous said...
HERE is what they are trying to avoid admitting.
19/7/05 8:54 PM
http://thunderbolts.info/
This website explores an "electric universe" model, wherein comets are electrically charged vs. neutral and are solid material vs. dirty iceballs. Their predictions of what would happen in the Deep Impact event seem to match the anomalies you have drawn our attention to.
My questions are (1) are you aware of their theories and (2) would their "electric universe" hypothesis fit well with your hyperdimensional model?
Thomas,
The "commercials" are getting to be a bit much. Comments are fine, but leave out the same, endlessly repeated weblink. We got it.
Thanks.
Richard,
This afternoon I sent Graham Hancock the link to your blog. His site had this news item posted for the day:
"NASA's Deep Impact may fail to live up to its billing as the first mission to look inside a comet. Computer processing designed to correct the spacecraft's defocused camera cannot fully correct the images taken just after impact.
If the situation cannot be rectified, there will be no way of seeing the newly formed crater - one of the mission's major goals."
Given that I thoroughly enjoy what each of you has put out in the past --and that each respective area of interest could potentially intersect much more extensively in the future-- I thought a liitle more communication seemed in order. I hope that was ok with you :)
btw, I really liked the Iapetus piece as well. Part VI seemed a tad more speculative, even by your own standards :) but hey, I typically think the same way...
As to Deep Impact, I find it intriguing that the diametrically opposed statements you've brought to our attention also suddenly put professional reputations on the line as well, no?
I can only wonder then, if such a potential rift in the Space community might not produce a Deep Throat for a Deep Impact.
:) c....
Thanks Cryptosemiotician and Richard CH for your valuable input! Very interesting.
Btw I didn't know "Scotty" was a Canadian. Rest in peace James Doohan. You are Loved.
Telepath,
>This afternoon I sent Graham Hancock the link to your blog ...
>Given that I thoroughly enjoy what each of you has put out in the past --and that each respective area of interest could potentially intersect much more extensively in the future-- I thought a liitle more communication seemed in order. I hope that was ok with you :)<
I just recommended Graham (he doesn't know it yet ...) to a major television network, which has come to us seeking to create a series of 6 programs on "the missing past ..." So, I think yours was another great idea! Thanks.
Now, we'll see if Graham also sees the "spin" that's going on here with Deep Impact .... :)
IonTruO2,
You're welcome .... :)
hey richard,
sorry shoulda been more specific, there has been this one circulating
around rense and and a few other sites.
if you haven't read it yet, you'll love it.
The Great UFO Debate
By Seth Shostak
SETI Institute
posted: 14 July 2005
06:37 am ET
The good news is that polls continue to show that between one and two-thirds of the public thinks that extraterrestrial life exists. The weird news is that a similar fraction thinks that some of it is visiting Earth.
Several recent television shows have soberly addressed the possibility that alien craft are violating our air space, occasionally touching down long enough to allow their crews to conduct bizarre (and, in most states, illegal) experiments on hapless citizens. While these shows tantalize viewers by suggesting that they are finally going to get to the bottom of the so-called "UFO debate", they never do. That bottom seems perennially out of reach.
So what are the contentious issues here? First off, despite heated discussion by all concerned, let’s admit that interstellar travel doesn’t violate physics. It’s possible. After all, the Pioneer and Voyager probes are nearly three decades into an inadvertent interstellar journey right now. The kicker, of course, is that these craft will take 70,000 years to cover the distance to even the nearest stars (and they’re not aimed that way). With the physics we know, it’s extremely difficult to substantially, and safely, shorten that travel time. Sure, it might be theoretically possible to create wormholes or some other exotic facility for high-speed cosmic cruising; but that approach is entirely speculative.
And it’s not really the point. The problem I have with the claim that strange craft are prowling our planet is not with the transportation mode, but with the evidence. I’ll worry about how they got here once I’m convinced that they’ve really made the scene.
Well, have they? How good is the evidence? In the course of a recent TV broadcast in which I participated, guest experts who have long studied UFOs argued the case for their alien nature by showing photographs of putative saucers hovering at low altitudes. Some of these objects appeared as out-of-focus lights, while others resembled hubcap-shaped Frisbees caught in mid-trajectory.
Since the former are perforce ambiguous, the latter commanded more of my attention. How can we know they’re NOT hubcaps, tossed into the air by a hoaxer with a camera? The reply from one expert: "these photographs pass muster." When quizzed on exactly which muster was mastered, the response was that "atmospheric effects give us a limit on the distance, and careful examination has ruled out photographic trickery." Well, the former is pretty chancy, and relies on some assumption about atmospheric conditions (was it a smoggy day in Los Angeles?), and the latter proves nothing. A real shot of an airborne hubcap would, after all, be free of photographic trickery.
Additional evidence that is endlessly cited is "expert testimony." Pilots, astronauts, and others with experienced eyes and impressive credentials have all claimed to see odd craft in the skies. It’s safe to say that these witnesses have seen something. But just because you don’t recognize an aerial phenomenon doesn’t mean that it’s an extraterrestrial visitor. That requires additional evidence that, so far, seems to be as unconvincing as the trickery-free saucer snaps.
What about those folks who have experienced alien beings first-hand? Abduction stories are an entirely separate field of study and one which I won’t address here, although I must confess that it’s intriguing to see photos of scoop marks on the flesh of human subjects, coupled with the claim that these minor disfigurements are due to alien malfeasance. But even aside from the puzzling question of why beings from distant suns would come to Earth to melon-ball the locals, this evidence is, once again, ambiguous. The scoops might be due to aliens, and then again, they could be the consequence of spousal abuse or many other causes.
When push came to shove, and when pressed as to whether there’s real proof of extraterrestrial visitation, the experts on this show backed off by saying that "well, we don’t know where they come from. But something is definitely going on." The latter statement is hardly controversial. The former is merely goofy. If the saucers and scoopers are not from outer space, where, exactly, are they from? Belgium?
The bottom line is that the evidence for extraterrestrial visitors has not convinced many scientists. Very few academics are writing papers for refereed journals about alien craft or their occupants. Confronted with this, the UFO experts usually take refuge in two possible explanations:
* The material that would be convincing proof has been collected and secreted away by the U.S. government. While endlessly appealing, this is an argument from ignorance (tantamount to saying "we can’t show you good evidence because we haven’t got it"), and perforce implies that every government in the world has efficiently squirreled away all alien artifacts. Unless, of course, the extraterrestrials only visit the U.S., where retrieval of material that falls to Earth is supposedly a perfected art form.
* Scientists have simply refused to look carefully at this phenomenon. In other words, the scientists should blame themselves for the fact that the visitation hypothesis has failed to sway them.
Not only is this unfair, it’s misguided. Sure, rather few researchers have themselves gone into the field to sift through the stories, the videos, and the odd photos that comprise the evidence for alien presence. But they don’t have to. This complaint is akin to telling movie critics that films would be better if only they would pitch in and get behind the camera. But critics can compose excellent and accurate evaluations of a movie without being participants in the business of making films.
The burden of proof is on those making the claims, not those who find the data dubious. If there are investigators who are convinced that craft from other worlds are buzzing ours, then they should present the absolute best evidence they have, and not resort to explanations that appeal to conspiratorial cover-ups or the failure of others to be open to the idea. The UFO advocates are not asking us to believe something either trivial or peripheral, for after all, there could hardly be any discovery more dramatic or important than visitors from other worlds. If we could prove that the aliens are here, I would be as awestruck as anyone, however, I await a compelling Exhibit A.
Compelling Exhibit A:The pyramids at Giza
Compelling Exhibit B: The hundred (or more) pyramids of central China
Sometimes I think that this is one of those times when one realises that "if you want it done, do it yourself". Problem is... normal people just can't build a rocket on the basement and send it into space... If only we could, what would we find out that has been covered up?
Just a Portuguese guy
>I just recommended Graham (he doesn't know it yet ...) to a major television network, which has come to us seeking to create a series of 6 programs on "the missing past ..." So, I think yours was another great idea! Thanks.
>Now, we'll see if Graham also sees the "spin" that's going on here with Deep Impact .... :)
Richard,
I think at least one of those programs should synthesize a Cremo-Hancock-Hoagland connection, rendering "Alternative History" on a vast scale. I won't speculate further at this time, because I probably couldn't stop :) --but Cremo's work, for example, if ever vindicated once and for all, would effectively cement the probability that anatomically modern humans must have become a space-faring species not just once, but almost necessarily, many, many times. Of course, the effect would/will be the same when you and/or Hancock is vindicated as well. There's a definite synergy here.
After all, millions of years are a very, very long time indeed, tand it took us less than a hundred years to go from horse-and-buggy to a buggy on the Moon.
OK... on second thought, allow me to offer some possibilities to be explored here. (see, I can't stop myself! :)
I have very good reasons to suspect, for example, why encoded structures such as a 'Face of Mars,' must have been motivated just as necessarily by an intimate understanding of the nature of being and consciousness as an understanding of the "hyperdimensional" nature of physical reality --primarily because these would really be only alternate faces of the same core principle(s).
Particle spin, for example, --the manifestion of a self-pepetuating principle of time and space-- is necessarily central to the whole realm of mass and matter, and therefore must comprise, as you probably know, the very essence of all "hyperdimentional" phenomena. (As you pointed out elsewhere: rotation, rotation, rotation.)
But particle spin is also a state of resonance, and resonance comprises the essence of "feedback" and, as a core principle, must repeat itself on an ascending scale of frequencies (as resonance), from the subatomic to the macroscopic level of whole organisms (as above, so below, etc,). This is then why "feedback" is irreplaceably ubiquitous and pervasive principle, and without which there could be no such thing as organic function at any level.
In other words, I'm saying that particle spin therefore ultimately projects itself as the core principle of consciousness itself. Here then, is your linkage to hyperdimensional physics --as not just a physics of solar systems, global warmings, and space flight, but as simultaneously a physics of consciousness as well.
Just imagine the heights we must once have attained...
ok, I'll stop now ;)
c....
telepath,
have you ever read any of the rosicrucian texts?
namely the "Cosmo Conception" By Max Heindel?.
if you haven't, you probably find it facinating.
Justin,
I googled your reference. Thanks much. There are always points of convergence, however minor, between any two modes of thought, but I have to admit, as I scan through this text, that my own point of view, and criteria for what's what, is significantly divergent from those of the Cosmo Conception.
My own point of view is fundamentally acausal and nonlinear. I feel the integration of phenomenon in terms of the physics of vibrational energy is central to my own personal development, so I have very strong reasons for asserting that there really is only one principle and process behind the whole condinuum of manifested existence --and that this same principle and process is synonymous to the cybernetics of organic data processing.
Doesn't sound very Rosicrucian, does it? :) For instance, you will probably never hear me say anything like, ".. we know now that the Silver Cord is grown anew in each life, one part sprouts from the seed atom of the desire body in the great vortex of the liver, that the other part grows out of the seed atom of the dense body in the heart...(etc. etc.)"
However, you could possibly hear me say something like... 'the Hiesenberg Principle ultimately stems from the fact that sensation is an inherent quality of electromagnetic force." That sort of thing ;) ...which would of course be why quantum mechanics cannot separate the observer from the observed.
Still, things often boil down to just a matter of language. There are an infinite number of ways to say the same thing, so I remain open to any source.
Thanks again.
I just submitted this through the Deep Impact feedback form on their website. I'll let you all know what I get back (if anything).
"I would like to request immediate release of all raw data (including all 4500 images and all IR spectra) collected by the Deep Impact probe to the public via your website, or some equally publicly accessible means.
As an American taxpayer, I own this data and helped finance this mission with my hard earned wages.
Please stop disregarding us, the American taxpayer, as ignorant, uninterested, and unqualified to independently analyze the data collected from our missions.
We are qualified, interested, and informed, and thrilled with the excellent work you do. Thank you for your blood, sweat, and tears. We appreciate what you've done."
offtopic but very interesting:
2 pictures of the sun, these are from one and the same frame....but one has a sphere on the right (the one which nasa posts first)....the other which was posted later on another site hasnt got the sphere anymore, also different contrast which is proof it got altered...:
http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime/javagif/gifs_small/20050719_1319_eit_304.gif
http://lasco-www.nrl.navy.mil/javagif/gifs_small/20050719_1319_eit_304.gif
now, to try out and see, i added contrast to the first one to see if the sphere disappeared and maybe that was the explanation, but nope....the sphere stays there.
also when i take away contrast from the 2nd one, the sphere doesnt come back, so the conclusion is that it was altered by the second site....why?
It is too late for them to release the data. The data lost all credibilty because it was delayed. They know what is real; but they are the only ones who ever will. Everybody else will perpetually wonder: did they alter it, or did they not? So what good is it to pressure them to release it??
George, I sort of agree with you. Putting pressure on NASA probably won't give us what we want. Even if they do release data and high-res images, just to appease the demand, who knows how much they are still keeping or what they have tweaked. The odds are very high they won't release 4,500 photos. They don't even release that many for the Mars rovers. Tempel was just a 'quick' event. The only advantage to putting pressure on them is to constantly remind them that the public is watching. The more examples they get of the public making demands, and following through with ongoing action, the more they will understand we are not backing down. It also sends a message to any possible empathic JPL employee. But the truth is, and we all know it, NASA can release whatever to appease the public... but can still easily retain "the goodies" for themselves. So basically a catch 22. No demands, no results. Lots of demands, slanted results.
3 new terrorist attacks on London.. you can only wonder what's really going on at the conspiracy/aliens group levels we are not allowed to see..
Justin said...
"The Great UFO Debate
By Seth Shostak
SETI Institute..."
The UFO "debate" is simply over, as far as I am concerned.
Facts:
There are visual sightings, that correspond with radar data. (Shostak conveniently avoids mentioning that there is hard radar evidence of UFOs, and paints it like a few confused souls with fuzzy photos are all that exist)
Now, these sightings/radar records, show beyond any doubt, that these UFOs possess three undeniable characteristics:
1) The objects are solid.
2) The objects are capable of maneuvers which defy all (publically) known methods of propulsion.
3) The objects exhibit clear signs of intelligent control.
Those three simple points are all I need to know to recognize that UFO's are very real and most certainly do exist. (Whether they are actually extraterrestrials, or government "black projects", is another issue entirely. That's what the "U" in UFO is for)
You will often hear the so-called "debunkers" trot out this tired old mis-rationale: "Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary proof". Well that's an absolute load of crap and always has been. Proof is proof. You don't change the rules of evidence simply because you're uncomfortable with the conclusions it points to. To do so is downright unscientific.
That's like a defense lawyer saying, "Well yes, the victim's blood was found on my client's hands, but since accusing him of being a murderer is an extraordinary claim, we need extraordinary proof, like an actual videotape of him doing the deed. And even that might be a fake".
Once one has defined a conclusion as "extraordinary" (revealing a subjective bias already), one seemingly has carte blanche to refute evidence that would be accepted without question if it supported what we already "know".
No evidence is good enough (or will ever be) for these "debunkers", they will instantly concoct whatever wild theory is needed to explain the observations. Yes, every single last one of the tens of thousands of reported sightings (some of which are corroborated by radar, lest we forget) comes from someone who is mistaken, confused, hallucinating, or delusional. Experienced air force and navy pilots aren't capable of distinguishing between "swamp gas" or "Venus", and an intelligently piloted craft. Yes, these are the most simple and logical explanations. Occam wept.
Brian
telepath,
"But particle spin is also a state of resonance, and resonance comprises the essence of "feedback" and, as a core principle, must repeat itself on an ascending scale of frequencies (as resonance), from the subatomic to the macroscopic level of whole organisms (as above, so below, etc,)."
Have you ever looked at David Wilcock's information? I don't agree will everything in his three books, but much of it is amazing. I would recommend looking at his 3 books on his website, but if that seems like too much then just read Divine Cosmos. Here are the links:
The Science of Oneness
The Shift of the Ages
Divine Cosmos
rotation, rotation, rotation AND
vibration, vibration, vibration
Telepath,
>>I just recommended Graham (he doesn't know it yet ...) to a major television network, which has come to us seeking to create a series of 6 programs on "the missing past ..." So, I think yours was another great idea! Thanks.
>>Now, we'll see if Graham also sees the "spin" that's going on here with Deep Impact .... :)<<
>I think at least one of those programs should synthesize a Cremo-Hancock-Hoagland connection, rendering "Alternative History" on a vast scale. I won't speculate further at this time, because I probably couldn't stop :) --but Cremo's work, for example, if ever vindicated once and for all, would effectively cement the probability that anatomically modern humans must have become a space-faring species not just once, but almost necessarily, many, many times. Of course, the effect would/will be the same when you and/or Hancock is vindicated as well. There's a definite synergy here.
>After all, millions of years are a very, very long time indeed, tand it took us less than a hundred years to go from horse-and-buggy to a buggy on the Moon.
>OK... on second thought, allow me to offer some possibilities to be explored here. (see, I can't stop myself! :)
>I have very good reasons to suspect, for example, why encoded structures such as a 'Face of Mars,' must have been motivated just as necessarily by an intimate understanding of the nature of being and consciousness as an understanding of the "hyperdimensional" nature of physical reality --primarily because these would really be only alternate faces of the same core principle(s).
>Particle spin, for example, --the manifestion of a self-pepetuating principle of time and space-- is necessarily central to the whole realm of mass and matter, and therefore must comprise, as you probably know, the very essence of all "hyperdimentional" phenomena. (As you pointed out elsewhere: rotation, rotation, rotation.)
>But particle spin is also a state of resonance, and resonance comprises the essence of "feedback" and, as a core principle, must repeat itself on an ascending scale of frequencies (as resonance), from the subatomic to the macroscopic level of whole organisms (as above, so below, etc,). This is then why "feedback" is irreplaceably ubiquitous and pervasive principle, and without which there could be no such thing as organic function at any level.
>In other words, I'm saying that particle spin therefore ultimately projects itself as the core principle of consciousness itself. Here then, is your linkage to hyperdimensional physics --as not just a physics of solar systems, global warmings, and space flight, but as simultaneously a physics of consciousness as well.
>Just imagine the heights we must once have attained...
>ok, I'll stop now ;)<
I agree TOTALLY.
HD Physics, as I've said many times, is ALSO the PHYSICS OF MULTI-DIMENSIONAL CONSCIOUSNESS ....
And, THAT'S why this stuff is being botteled up by our current "keepers," NOT JUST BECAUSE OF THE ENERGY TECHNOLOGY, ANTI-GRAVITY, etc., etc.
"Free energy" is ultimate FREEDOM (to become aware again of multi-dimensional Reality) ITSELF.
And THAT'S WHY IT MUST NOT BE (re) DISCOVERED .... :)
Yes, we once were MUCH more than we are now. Kinda reminds one of a story of a "Fall" ....
Justin,
>The Great UFO Debate<
Same old ... same old.
If "UFO's" are real ... Seth's outta business.
Vested interest to spin the same old "nothing there folks, move along ... move along" tale ....
BTW: the folks who put on the first "God, Man and ET Conference" are trying to organize a second ... and have invited me. They also invited Seth Shostak (before they invited me) and he agreed to participate. But, he's apparently now said that, if I show up, he'll CANCEL.
Great courage these guys have, to face any REAL debate .... :)
Gosh, Cryptosemiotician, who "owns" the STARS??!!
Fusion Knight,
>I just submitted this through the Deep Impact feedback form on their website. I'll let you all know what I get back (if anything).
>"I would like to request immediate release of all raw data (including all 4500 images and all IR spectra) collected by the Deep Impact probe to the public via your website, or some equally publicly accessible means.
>"As an American taxpayer, I own this data and helped finance this mission with my hard earned wages.
>"Please stop disregarding us, the American taxpayer, as ignorant, uninterested, and unqualified to independently analyze the data collected from our missions.
>"We are qualified, interested, and informed, and thrilled with the excellent work you do. Thank you for your blood, sweat, and tears. We appreciate what you've done."
Perfect FIRST move on the chessboard .... :)
Anonymous (Brian),
>You will often hear the so-called "debunkers" trot out this tired old mis-rationale: "Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary proof". Well that's an absolute load of crap and always has been. Proof is proof. You don't change the rules of evidence simply because you're uncomfortable with the conclusions it points to. To do so is downright unscientific.
>That's like a defense lawyer saying, "Well yes, the victim's blood was found on my client's hands, but since accusing him of being a murderer is an extraordinary claim, we need extraordinary proof, like an actual videotape of him doing the deed. And even that might be a fake".
I LOVE your example!! :)
It's EXACTLY what's been going on with this scientific "argument" ....
The amazing thing is: actual scientists seem to have bought it -- "hook line and sinker" (as the cliche goes ...).
Why?
Kcjavaman,
>Have you ever looked at David Wilcock's information? I don't agree will everything in his three books, but much of it is amazing. I would recommend looking at his 3 books on his website, but if that seems like too much then just read Divine Cosmos ....
>Rotation, rotation, rotation AND
vibration, vibration, vibration ....<
I agree: David's got MAJOR piecees of this puzzle .... :)
Which reminds me: we have to finish our series on "Hyperdimensional Weather ...." :)
It's EXACTLY what's been going on with this scientific "argument" ....
Another thing that should be pointed out is that, as Sherlock Holmes said (paraphrasing, I think), the exception disproves the rule. The scientific method, with its emphasis on repeatable experiment, tends to ignore this theorem. In ignoring it, much is lost. Repeatable experimentation is very important, but when something happens that science can't explain, or repeat, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Nevertheless, it moves.
I just recommended Graham (he doesn't know it yet ...) to a major television network, which has come to us seeking to create a series of 6 programs on "the missing past ..." So, I think yours was another great idea!
How could someone begin working on such a project and not already have Graham on their list? Amazing!
A bit off topic, but has anyone seen that you can now zoom in on the moon using Google satellite mapping at http://moon.google.com/. The sad thing is that as far as I could tell you can only zoom in on the area where the Apollo missions landed. I would love it if they did the entire moon!
The old man from scene 24,
>How could someone begin working on such a project and not already have Graham on their list? Amazing!<
It's television. What can I say .... :)
Where does the "Buck Stop"? Not with the President. Not with the Congress, not with Jpl,not with the UofMd. To change the course of Government in the United States,and to change the policies and rules and to retain backup protections, it is WE THE PEOPLE rather than WE THE GOVERNMENT, which could/can/will determine the courses of our society in the United States of America. Those that choose not to stand up to tyranny and fail to hold Government accountable to WE THE PEOPLE, are SLAVES to its lies,threats,and loathesome accusations. Continue to fight the good fight by standing up, telling the Reps and Senators of your District that you wont put up with this corruption any more and to tell your reps you are aware of what is taking place with the corruption within NASA/JPL. Be specific and post RCHS WEBLOG LINK in your faxes and emails to Washington.
Blog black background and white text SUCKS. I check in occasionally to see if you have gotten a good webdesigner or at least one with some sense. Until then, I DO NOT READ YOUR SITE, though I wish I could.
USE LIGHT BACKGROUND AND DARK TEXT.
Go ahead, be stubborn. Sucky color schemes have been proven to reduce various site readership dramatically.
Anonymous,
>Blog black background and white text SUCKS. I check in occasionally to see if you have gotten a good webdesigner or at least one with some sense. Until then, I DO NOT READ YOUR SITE, though I wish I could.
USE LIGHT BACKGROUND AND DARK TEXT.
Go ahead, be stubborn. Sucky color schemes have been proven to reduce various site readership dramatically.<
Simply highlight the text, and it all turns into "black on white." NOT a problem .... :)
And, FYI: we have between 10,000 and 20,000 people (that's NOT "hits" but actual visitors) PER DAY coming to Enterprise and reading. That's a low number, because EVERYONE from, say AOL, is counted as ONE person (web stuff ...)!!
We MUST be doing something right .... :)
Pull Thread Syndrome
I'm so glad that the astronauts didn't suffered from " Pull Thread Syndrome " that's where you pull a thread on your shirt then the whole shirt comes undone !
God Bless STS-114
Even after un-docking from the station Delta=Wing Pod "UFO" moves from down-center to upper left. Of course we know here that we must denied everything.....
UFOS and the cover-up are very real my dear brothers....
a nite worker :)
No glare or space trash !! Look slowly at the video............
Anonymous said...
>Even after un-docking from the station Delta=Wing Pod "UFO" moves from down-center to upper left. Of course we know here that we must denied everything.....
UFOS and the cover-up are very real my dear brothers....
>a nite worker :)
>No glare or space trash !! Look slowly at the video............<
Did. NOT "glare." Another NASA "prevarication" ....
Wonder why Commander Collins asked about it though ...? She's NOT in on it? H-m-m-m-m-m.
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