Tuesday, July 05, 2005

Deep Impact ... First Impressions

Deep Impact -- NASA's historic, much publicized first-time "deliberate interference" in the solar system -- appears to have come off without a hitch last night.

Precisely at 10:52 PM PDT (Earth Receive Time) July 3rd, the 800-lb, computer-guided "smart bomb" -- known as "the Impactor" -- slammed into the southern hemisphere of the avacado-shaped, 5-mile long "Comet Tempel 1" (named after Ernst Wilhelm Leberecht Tempel, who discovered it in April, 1867) -- at some 23,000 miles per hour. As seen from a second "stand-off" Fly-by Spacecraft, safely watching through a high-power telescope from about 5300 miles away, the resulting celestial fireworks from the conversion of the considerable kinetic energy of the Impactor collision were spectacular ... in fact, far more spectacular than anyone at NASA projected they would be ....


At NASA Headquarters in the Nation's Capitol, it was 1:52 AM EDT July 4th when the Deep Impact "Impactor Spacecraft" successfully ended its primary Mission ... by being literally run over by Tempel 1 -- overtaking it at over 6 miles per second (below).

The result was nothing short of astounding and historic -- as can be seen by some of the first processed images (below)

A truly astonishing set of time-lapse movies and still images, chronicling Deep Impact's last climactic moments, can be found on the official JPL website.

Remarkably, the real images sent back to Earth as the Impactor slammed into Tempel 1, mirror to an amazing degree artists' conceptions (such as those of Pat Rawlings -- below) put out by the Space Agency months before this long-awaited ending to the Deep Impact Mission.

A few hours after these extraordinary images came in, a far more "conventional" fireworks display wowed the annual gathering of tourists who came to celebrate each year the Nation's Birthday between the Washington Monument and the Capitol, on the Mall in Washington DC.

But, 83 million miles away ... courtesy of NASA ... the traditional Washington Independence Day celebrations this year received a helluva head start ....

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We will have far more on Deep Impact in the coming days, as the rest of the data is downlinked from the surviving Fly-by Spacecraft, and the real analysis begins -- including, the critical spectrographic data on the composition of that shockingly large plume that jetted far out into space from Tempel 1 ... when the Impactor plunged -- at ~6 miles per second -- far beneath the surface (below).

A central feature of our continuing Deep Impact comments will focus, of course, on the stated reason for this $333 million-dollar NASA Mission: the continuing debate over the real origins of comets.

The conventional mainstream (NASA) view is that comets represent "the pristine, primordial materials out of which the solar system formed about 4.5 billion years ago." In this persistent model, comets are the small "bits and pieces" which did NOT accrete (collect) into our star (the Sun) and its surrounding planets that we see in the solar system today.

However, there is an alternative, radically different -- but equally scientific -- view.

That comets (and their close relations, the asteroids) are in fact the few surviving fragements of a former major planet of the ancient solar system. That one day, many millions of years ago, this former planet literally exploded ... and the currently visible comets and asteroids represent the few remaining pieces of debris still visible, still orbiting the Sun.

After literally decades of mainstream denial of increasing compelling evidence in favor of this latter theory (which has been presented at major planetary science conferences all over the world, including those sponsored by NASA, by its prime modern investigator, Dr. Thomas Van Flandern -- former Head of the Celestial Mechanics Branch of the US Naval Observatory), NASA's Deep Impact Mission can, theoretically, give us enough new information (finally!) to decide which model is correct ....

Depending on which molecular constituents (including, potentially, many new ones -- never seen in cometrary spectra before) are found in the readings from the newly-exposed Tempel 1 materials jetted by the impact into space -- a primordial, or "unchanged" cloud of materials; or debris composed of highly "differentiated," mature planetary minerals -- the ultimate origins of Comet Tempel 1 (and by inference, all other comets) could, in fact, be strikingly revealed by this one unprecedented NASA experiment.

Now, why is any of this important?

Because, if Van Flandern is correct -- if comets and asteroids are NOT primoridal leftovers from the solar system's origins, but surviving fragments of a "recent," literally world-shattering Cataclysmic Event -- then that can only mean one thing:

Planets CAN blow up!

And that seems to be something that NASA doesn't want you to think too much about ....

Stay tuned.

-0-

45 Comments:

b9 said...

Mr Hoagland, I caught you on Coast last night and as uusal enjoyed the show greatly. You bring an amazing wit to the table, that considering the topics is always refreshing. I agree with you that tha data does prove the mainstream ideas of comets wrong but more importantly that they will do their best to cover it up for as long as they can. No, no governing body of any thing can just come out & tell their people "hey one day this rocks gunna bust" yeah thinkers would conclude that it wouldnt be in their life time bujt it would take all the fun out of life so to speak. Sorta like extreme planetary atheism. But thats what people are into these days, thinking life goes on forever.
I do have a question about your ideas on measurements. I can sort of grasp the idea but if you have the time & wouldnt mind I'd like to hear more about it.

5/7/05 3:29 PM  
Anonymous said...

Assuming for a moment that the theory of comets and asteroids being planetary remnants is true, then why must the only explanation for their existence be that the progenitor planet "blew up?"

There are lots of things in space that could take apart a planet from the outside - why not apply Occam's Razor to the problem instead of fear-mongering?

5/7/05 4:31 PM  
Anonymous said...

On your analysis a main factor is missing so far or at least you didn't clearly state this everywhere as you should: censorship. Actually, digitally manipulated, censored images. What the public actually gets is only a fragment of the true data and that's the reason why to analyze what we can see correctly the censoring factor must be taken into consideration everywhere. Thinking that the Impactor and "the comet" data, visual and not, could be unaffected by censorship would be a too naive approach. You probably know another site that analyzes Mars data anomalies (and our Moon anomalies as well) which correctly shows how much official data is affected by complex digital censorship (which sometimes doesn't work as it should or maybe someone doesn't allow it to work as it should, and that's what allows us to see some bits and pieces of the truth out there...).

The Tempel-1 "comet" I think it's far from a comet and I doubt that the theory of being debris of a recently exploded planet it's the best bet here...

Actually what I mean is, your analysis of Iapetus visual data, although you didn't take censorship into account as I think you should, surely rings a bell about what Tempel-1 "comet" could actually be...

Well, what I suspect is that Tempel-1 it's a spaceship, an active spaceship like Iapetus probably still is but with a different purpose. I think it's a cargo, that is what we are looking at, an alien cargo spaceship that can travel at a very high speed.
There were some frames taken by the Hubble space telescope of another "comet" some time ago which revealed an anomalous object rotating around that one at the time (which I think was a defensive,smaller spaceship, a fighter, probably some kind of auto defense system but a pilot could have been in it as well), frames which became public "by accident" as for the majority of data which reveals something about the truth that massive censorship even behind governments powers and knowledge doesn't want us to see and think about.

5/7/05 6:39 PM  
JasonS said...

Richard, if I may call you that, fantastic program last night with George Noory. You are the one regular guest on that program that can consistently make me tired the next morning from lack of sleep! The enthusiasm you bring with you as well as your well-spoken manner makes you one of my favourite guests on the program.

I don't fully agree with Van Flandern's theory, but I do agree that what is taught in schools (the "NASA" point-of-view) is flawed. I just wish more people in the world, including those at NASA, would open their minds a little more towards these theories instead of immediately dismissing them. The political ramifications of what the world is told about the solar system shouldn't even be a factor in what is taught!

Keep up the good work on the blog, it will prove to be a spectacular medium for presenting your ideas to the world in an un-official way.

5/7/05 9:00 PM  
Anonymous said...

This is quite reasonable for you, Richard.

5/7/05 9:06 PM  
David said...

Surely when God created the heavans it was perfect in every way untill the rebellian of the angles, then everything fell into kaos. So the Shrapnal and comets must be left overs from something greater like a planet or 2.
Should we not always remember in the beginning it was PERFECT.

5/7/05 10:27 PM  
Richard C. Hoagland said...

b9,

What kind of "measurements?" Those yet to be disclosed from the Deep impact spacecraft?

Or, other measurements ... of something else?

5/7/05 10:34 PM  
Jon said...

This looks like it's going to be a very good blog Mr.Hoagland. I have visited your website before and now this, it's fantastic!

I'm looking for more on the "Deep Impact" project. (Personally, I think NASA secretly tried to experiment with the necessary technology to deflect or destroy (?) a comet in the future, if it needs to be done ... now, they keep it quiet ... there's no need to scare people).

Best regards,

6/7/05 12:30 AM  
Richard C. Hoagland said...

Jon,

As I said last night on "Coast": I agree.

But, there is more -- as we'll lay out (and document) in future posts.

6/7/05 12:48 AM  
Anonymous said...

uuhh, is it me or is there a media blackout when it comes to the comet?
The media-horny NASA not riding the wave of this "succes".......very odd, not?

Where are the new pictures?
Why has the official NASA Deep Impact site not changed a bit in almost 2 days?...not even a letter.

They must be shocked about something.....

6/7/05 10:12 AM  
Richard C. Hoagland said...

"Anonymous (folks, there are far too many "Anonymous said"; we've GOT to have the courage to at least use REAL first names here!),"

They are ....

Stay tuned.

6/7/05 12:44 PM  
tom603 said...

Richard, you once wrote extensively on the symbolism of nasa launches and dates. Any involved with this one?

6/7/05 1:27 PM  
Rune said...

In a public, online Q&A-session with a norwegian scientist, held by a major newspaper here in Norway, I asked him something like:
"What do you think of the Plasma Discharge Comet Model and other comet theories?"
His short, and rather funny reply was:
"Totally unscientific! Don't believe those wannabe scientists!!"
Ha ha ha ha...... You could almost see his nose growing! :D
Keep up the good work, Richard!

6/7/05 2:38 PM  
Richard C. Hoagland said...

Tom603,

Funny you should ask .... :)

6/7/05 2:42 PM  
Richard C. Hoagland said...

Rune,

Wait til you read what more we've discovered -- just in the last few hours -- about the "mainstream's" cherished model for Tempel 1 .... :)

6/7/05 2:54 PM  
Catherine said...

Richard Hoagland, I am so glad you started a blog!

The analysis and information you gave us about Iapetus is chilling and wonderful. I have enjoyed reading your web site for several years now, and have spent many, many happy hours poring over the JPL's Mars pics, thanks to you. Hyperdimensional physics is still a mystery to me, but I enjoy trying to grasp it now and then.

And now, now you hint of fascinating revelations regarding Tempel-1! Tempel, temple. It's hard waiting, but it will be well worth it, I'm sure.

6/7/05 4:39 PM  
Anonymous said...

If comets are composed of large amounts of water, as NASA suggests, then where would this water have come from? You cannot just create water in the freezing climate of interplanetary space. So was water really a "primordial" compound that existed in LIQUID FORM in the early solar system -- or was it created in a MATURE PLANET (which subsequently exploded, as Mr. Hoagland postulates) where the conditions were more temperate? I believe this question poses a serious problem for NASA's current model of comets...a question they have not even attempted to answer. --Jim D.

6/7/05 6:31 PM  
BethanyR said...

Well, well, Richard...I have been waiting ages for you to begin blogging. Hooray for you for entering into the blogosphere with a bang.

I have one question: It has been common knowledge for decades that one day the sun will reach the end of its existence and with it earth and all life, yet the scientific community hasn't seemed concerned with the public awareness of this; nor, indeed, does society as a whole seem concerned about this fact since we operate under the substantial assumption that it will not happen in our lifetime. What, then, is the difference with the possible knowledge that planets blow up and ours may -- some day? Why keep this from us since we all know that our own sun will one day destroy us anyway -- and this knowledge has not already caused panic or an uprising?

I love your thoughts, Richard. I love your mind.

Bethany
Anguilla, British West Indies

6/7/05 7:35 PM  
parallax said...

Bethany, my question exactly!
Why the interest in proving that planets blow up? Unless..this is to happen very soon?

6/7/05 10:07 PM  
Richard C. Hoagland said...

Bethany and Parallax,

The main difference between your example and the "exploding planet" problem is that the former has a DEFINITE -- if seemingly infinitely removed -- "end date" ... of literally "billions of years in the future." While the latter, i.e. "when and how a planet could blow up," is MUCH more uncertain. And therefore, quite rightly engenders (in some folks, anyway) a modicum of "fear of the Unknown" ....

Why?

Because we only have a few previous examples (from Van Flandern's observations of events in the ancient solar system, coupled with our own still highly uncertain theoretical Hyperdimensional Physics) by which to judge how often such events could occur in the PRESENT solar system. The calculations are SO uncertain, that such an event could literally take place at any time ... and with little warning.

As I said, THAT is one BIG reason NASA does NOT want folks to think very much about this entire, "sticky" subject.

The other is the distinct possibility that solar system civilizations which have developed sufficient hyperdimensional technology, have been (because they've been HUMAN!) literally blowing themselves up. Our recent (and current) flirtation with various nuclear scenarios for doing the same thing tends to make one think that, armed with a much more developed physics, our weapons for self-destruction would probably follow suite.

If THAT is the explanation ("intelligent" intervention) for the growing evidence of previously exploded planets in the solar system, then NASA would have ANOTHER MAJOR REASON not to want the truth to come out: A) it would be evidence that previous, high tech civilizations once existed in the solar system (!), and B) evidence that such extremely powerful physics and technology in fact EXISTS.

And, that would NOT be in the short-term interests of those who are seeking to keep us pumping oil ... while they make out like bandits.

As always, there is no ONE reason for anything in life. It's usually a combination of factors -- and constituencies -- who conspire to keep certain information buttoned up.

That appears to be the case with the Van Flandern model.

Which means, if the key spectroscopic evidence from Deep Impact effectively contradicts the current "dirty snowball" model, NASA has a REAL problem on its hands ... and lots of angry co-conspirators.

6/7/05 11:22 PM  
Jon said...

Mr. Hoagland, maybe the spectra analysis of the materials expelled after impact by the comet reveal chemical components that are “not supposed to be there” (maybe in support of the panspermia theory?). Maybe that’s one of the reasons why they haven’t said anything about it yet.

It is also possible that the composition of the comet is so “bizarre” or different from NASA proposed models that it’s better to just keep shut and not say anything about it, because it would mean MANY other things would have to be changed as well …

Jon

PD:
In response to Bethany; psychologically, the interpretations humans can do of such events are subject to many things. For instances, we know the sun is going to grow into a red star and eventually all life on this Earth will come to an end.

But we have assumed that’s not going to happen anytime soon. Every person I have asked about this idea, know this is not to happen in the near future.

The possibility of a planet blowing up seems rather more challenging, because we don’t know much about how that happens, or which model stands correct. All we have so far are hypothesis … that and a scary record of extinction events happening more than once (asteroids, comets?).

I believe this “Deep Impact” mission is also a trial for future “comet/asteroid/space-object-deflecting/destroying technology.

7/7/05 1:00 AM  
Anonymous said...

Here is a good article that suggests that the impactor hit something hard...

http://www.universetoday.com/am/publish/swift_take_deep_impact.html?672005

Pablo

7/7/05 7:18 AM  
djbarney said...

You mention that Phd's will one day be written
about those who can 'see' and 'not see'...

Are you aware of our sociological situation ?
I think a lot of people who tend to get
'cosmic' and maybe get into difficulties
because of that, have been medicated by the
psychiatric industry into the unreal ! There realy is a bad
misunderstanding about where we're at
regarding our current 'evolution' (whatever
that means!) into space.

I can see the 2001 shots of the Face as a
kind of Buddhist Religous Iconography of the
most powerfull kind, of a kind, I actually
think is WAY outside most peoples remit:
thats why they can't see it !

Are you surpised then when NASA has a probem
with this kind of thing ? :-)

Barney

7/7/05 2:31 PM  
Richard C. Hoagland said...

Anonymous (hey, let's get some real names, folks!),

Excellent post.

This is the first hard evidence (sorry ...) that Tempel 1 is NOT just an "ordinary" comet ....

Stay tuned.

7/7/05 5:43 PM  
Kaliki said...

I think Bethany has made some profound points -- I am not certain that you have fully addressed them. The hypothesis that NASA needs/wants to mislead us seems to drive your theories as opposed to being the result of objective deduction.

The revelations that the planet might blow up, naturally, or advanced physics might enable short-sighted politicians to detonate a new but lethal device will NOT result in hysteria or panic but rather amazement and optimism. After all, 9/11 and four bombs in London today haven't really caused a mass hiccup (although getting into an airport now competes with a Houdini escape).

What did the British do under Churchill's leadership in WWII? They were defiant. What have Americans said after 9/11 -- have you seen any empty malls lately, or immediately even after 9/11? The Londoners with whom I communicated today were defiant even in the shadow of today's events. Devout Christians anticipate a rapture that they seem fairly certain will not intervene with their lives (or, at least they live that way). Human nature has shown itself to be amazingly optimistic and resiliant and a wee thermo-nuclear risk -- or the demise of mother earth -- doesn't seem likely change that.

The bottom line is that I think NASA has none of the will, motivation, or competence to conceal or twist anything.

Let's assume I am wrong. How on earth (or not on earth) do they motivate scientists to abandon integrity and the curiosity that attracted them to the field in favor of clandestine efforts to cleanse the data so all we see is pablum?

One of us may be delusional, Richard -- the imponderable is "which one"?

7/7/05 8:21 PM  
Jeff said...

Richard - At last, a blog. To see how your theories develop...

Kaliki asked, how does one convince scientists to abandon integrity and the curiosity that attracted them to the field...

Easy - put them through the traditional college system which is designed entirely (at the undergraduate level) to destroy curiosity and replace it with the ability to regurgitate known "facts" without question, and (at the graduate level) to endoctrinate the "doctor" with an inflexible "go along to get along" attitude. Then take the special few and induct them into a society in which secret knowledge is passed along only to the worthy. Happens all the time, every day - at the CIA, DOD, political party headquarters, and religious organizations of every stripe and color, so there's no reason to believe that the same thing wouldn't happen at NASA, too.

7/7/05 8:59 PM  
Dave Hoffman said...

[backslapping] I've been reading EM for years and years, Richard, and like others have said, it's great to hear you on 'Coast too. I always gets excited when I see your name on the upcoming guest list because I know it will be a very interesting and thought-provoking show. So thank you for all you do. [/backslapping]

I could buy into the theory that comets are fragments of exploded planets. Why not? One thing I've learned is that our understanding of how the universe works is mostly based on evolving theories. Essentially, little is truely known with conviction.

I just wish that NASA would stop treating the public like their data is a bull to our emotional china shop. Not just in this case, but in everything they "study."

7/7/05 9:04 PM  
BethanyR said...

Kaliki, except for the comment referring to Richard as delusional ... I couldn't have said it better.

Bethany
Anguilla, British West Indies

7/7/05 9:38 PM  
Kaliki said...

Jeff,

Now that you have revealed these truths, do you feel that you are in any danger?

7/7/05 9:55 PM  
Jason said...

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8/7/05 7:09 AM  
aredo said...

Jason, it seems that they decided to apply digital censoring to Dennis' eye to me.. the dark shadow-like effect it's applied over the features to cover some usual geometric features.

While on Arlene tropical storm images it's possible to see two anomalous features .. rhomboid ones (middle/right of the image...) :

http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/118021main_exp11_arlene_2.jpg

http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/118018main_exp11_arlene_1.jpg

I can recognize 2 of them there and another almost complete. Keep in mind that they might be digitally applied fake details to cover something huge floating above the sea there... spaceships probably... but at least one if not all of them might be real features, either there to hide something anyway or they might be something else... surely artificial anyway. No vortex could "paint" geometric features like those if official physical theories were true...

8/7/05 7:28 AM  
Jason said...

Aredo,

Keen insight.

I moved my post to the newer blog...I wasn't sure if this one was still active.

Jason~

8/7/05 7:39 AM  
Jeff said...

Kaliki,

In danger of what? It's a dangerous world. How does my (or anyone else's) feelings of safety validate or invalidate a possible explanation of some observation?

8/7/05 8:28 AM  
Parallax said...

Possible reasons for the Tempel-1 project…

As a practice run for deflecting/destroying meteors/comets that may be on a collision course with earth.

As a practice run for defending the earth by destroying vehicles/spaceships of alien origin.

To test the theory of the origin of comets. The resulting data may support either that comets are pristine objects created from primordial elements or, they are fragments of an exploded planet. If they are remnants, pristine objects, then that is fine…the NASA theory holds true.

If the resulting data does not support NASA’s theory that comets are pristine objects and in fact are composed of known materials, unknown materials or a combination of both, then, NASA, has a problem. The problem is that their cherished dirty snowball model for comets cannot be supported by this data.
In addition, the resulting data may also provide NASA (either by design or accident) information related to impact forces and other data of which I have no expertise in dealing with.

So this has gone from a (supposedly) simple crash test (as far as the public is concerned) to something that could possibly destroy the very structure and credibility of NASA. It will also shed light as to the very real possibility of the demise of our earth or our sister planets….perhaps sooner than we think. The possibility of the destruction of the earth comes to the fore front because there may be governmental agencies, private scientific research facilities and other secretive agents experimenting with cutting edge physics that could result in some serious damage to our earth, environment, etc. This also ties in to the very real possibility (that NASA may know), that previous civilizations within our solar system or nearby, had utilized certain cutting edge physics or universal forces and have in the process blown themselves to bits.
Am I getting close?

8/7/05 11:36 AM  
aredo said...

Parallax, Mr.Hoagland analysis point to the fact that those aliens that built Iapetus and other things around us did something wrong or fought a war and ended up blowing entire planets up... Well, the wars part might be true BUT I was pointing to the fact that what we see is not unaffected by censorship, Iapetus seems an abandoned device in space from images but digital censorship must be taken into account and where Hoagland points to signs of burning on the surface I say that it's highly likely we are actually looking to digital mimic effects applied by AI-driven high-end programs to hide the truth... What I think is that Iapetus is far from abandoned and when NASA put some images of supposed to be time-lapse effects of various pictures of Iapetus on the same picture, well, I think that more than one of Iapetus-type devices/spacecrafts is actually there and in full activity...

8/7/05 12:00 PM  
Parallax said...

Aredo.
Thanks for the clarification…
We are then talking about two points:
First, based on Mr. Hoagland’s analysis and by extension, planets can be blown up either by design or accidentally and that we may posses or are on the verge of possessing such power that may ultimately doom us. Similar to what may have happened in the past…Hyper Dimensional Physics? NASA is aware of this and of course wants to keep it hush hush. There may also be an ongoing struggle by entities that may engulf or possibly endanger our very survival…and also, we are slowly being conditioned to accept the very real possibility of impending doom
Secondly, I would think that any image placed by either NASA, JPL or other related agency for public consumption would contain a certain amount of censorship in line with their policy of obfuscating the truth. What you seem to be saying, if I understand you properly, is that the images we receive are not only digitally censored by NASA, but also by other entities, either in conjunction with NASA or wholly independent of them. Which brings us to the present problem of Tempel 1…..is it a comet or a deliberately constructed craft? NASA has been spooked by the resulting data that clearly illustrates this may very well be the case.

Then the space about us that we believe to be essentially dormant and peaceful, so to speak, is actually quite active……NASA knows this but is occasionally surprised itself by the example of the current project?

8/7/05 1:15 PM  
Jeff said...

Although I am not disinclined to agree that the delay in information may be in order to find a remotely plausible explanation for the data (i.e. the litterbox photo), at least plausible enough for Matt and Katie, I'm not so certain that disproving the dirty snowball theory or that comets are left over from the beginning of the universe, would necessarily bring crashing down NASA's entire program to hide the truth from the public. It seems like a rather minor point, especially since this is but one comet and you could easily say this is perhaps a galactic stray captured by the sun's gravity. Or any number of other explanations.

Frankly, I don't see how coming up with alternate explanations for unknown composition could possibly be cause for this much delay.

I think they've either had a significant and embarrassing instrument failure, or they have discovered something so beyond the pale that it defies easy explanation. What it could be, I don't know. Whatever it is is likely significant.

Oh, and I read that they are considering whether or not they can send the observation vehicle to another comet - a 2nd mission, so to speak. What do you suppose they found that warrants immediate investigation?

8/7/05 2:22 PM  
Parallax said...

One would agree that disproving the dirty snowball theory may not “bring down” the entire structure of NASA…but what it may do, is provide a crack, a small unraveling of the thread, where astute and open minded scientist like RC Hoagland could possibly wiggle or deduce enough information to expose or dispute certain sections of the proverbial house of cards. It’s like lying…after a while it becomes difficult to leave behind a coherent argument thread.
Sure, my first impression would be to say…hey, what’s the big deal…..if you found something strange just say so; however NASA’s history does not support the “honesty model”

8/7/05 3:09 PM  
aredo said...

jeff: Either they found something they didn't expect in that cargo/spaceship that probably is OR they might have not found what they were looking for inside of it... and now they need to plan a second mission immediately to intercept what they were searching for...

8/7/05 3:41 PM  
GRR8 said...

They sent faxes to Dan Goldins fax machine several years ago which got John Mccain involved and forced Malin to finally release thousands of images of Mars. I sent contact us email to the JPL website. When a considerable amount of interested people all join together to let the representatives know they disprove, things start rolling. It becomes a done deal. Hint Hint. contact JPL on their website, Contact the space science subcommittee in Washington. Let them know we are not HAPPY with this lack of info and we want it NOW. GRR8

8/7/05 4:11 PM  
aredo said...

grr8: What it's released doesn't mean it's true anyway, at least it's still censored. And then there is the fact that there are conspiracy groups that not even those thinking to be in control of information know anything about... That's the way it works and there have been tons of hints about this scheme in the last 60 years or so...

8/7/05 4:16 PM  
thomas said...

Dear Richard
All of this has to do with ascension. The cabal's are desperately trying to prevent it (which they cannot do) because the celestial bodies in this system are operating on a Master Timeline...the wonderful HST & Deep Space Probe photos that are on your site showing the incredible transformations in climate changes, sun spots, moving tetrahedrons, disappearing/reappearing spots, etc all point to one direction: Ascension - the return to 'full consciousness'...that's what this planet is going through as well as the Sun, the other planets, moons and, just as important, this global population. Temple1 is one act of this
soon-to-end 13,000 year old Cosmic Drama...One reality is encompassing another...hence, the chaos (political, environmental,social,etc)...hence the Revelations...This magnificent solar system metamorphosis
is divinely guided (what other explanation could there be?)...It's occurring at once!...It has greatly accelerated within the past dozen plus years...Now look at all of the tectonic, climate, political, & & social upheavals during that time....Metaphysics, not power politics, is transforming our reality... and forever..
NASA is jammed into a corner of their own doing...as are the other dying cabals...The revelations about Tempe1 will be part of an immense mosaic of 'Truth' that is divinely, yet dynamically, emerging from the waves like a huge iceberg. And you have played a major part in all of this. The two scenarios going on right now are Desperation (by the cabals) and Ascension (people, planets,etc)....The credits are rolling..soon, the lights will be turned on and the Truth about who we are and why we are here will be gloriously shown.

Our global consciousness is morphing.The Earth & Solar System changes are just reflections of the changes going on within us. If Temple1 is a spaceship great! If it's another amazing, unforeseen object, great! Would this be any more amazing than what's going on here, Mars, Neptune, the Sun,etc? More amazing than Iapetus? They're all 'showstoppers'. These revelations that you have bravely shown us on your wonderful website. Others, such as Planetary Activation Organization, The Disclosure Project, et al are also playing their part...big time!
Many thanks to you Richard.

You are a wonderful teacher...

Regards
Thomas

8/7/05 7:06 PM  
Goliathan said...

A better analogy of what happened:

We shot a light copper pellet into a sphere full of 1000's of balloons filled with gas and water among other things. The pellet penetrated fairly deeply before coming to a stop near the center of the comet.

With the comet having an AVERAGE density probably less than .5 that of water, the impactor (with an average density of .6 that of water) was able to overcome the outer shell (with a density even less than .1 or .2 that of water) and penetrate the lower depths.

The video clip shows a 12 frame LAPSE between the moment of impact and the first outburst. I calculate that a 1/2 second elapsed there and at 23000mph impact speed that puts the pellet pretty deep into the comet, like 3/4 miles for starters.

Since the comet is only 2.1 mile radius, that is significantly deep to disturb many areas below.

In addition the impactor's density was immediately increased upon contact with the comet thereby allowing parts of it to penetrate even deeper, these parts approaching the density of copper. Most of this happening in the first 1 or 2 seconds.

What resulted was a comet that had many of its internal balloons bursted and it spewed much of its mass outward.

Could NASA also be worried that too much debris was created in this encounter? This was akin to partially blowing up a small airy moon!

9/7/05 2:33 AM  
Richard C. Hoagland said...

GR88.

You've put your finger precisely on the key: everyone here needs to send a LOT of e-mails and faxes, both to JPL ... as well as to the key Space Committees ... AND the media on this.

This was such a hot story just a few days ago that, if it's pointed out, the media MUSt pay attention to a possible "big scoop" on what NASA REALLY found ... and is now trying to cover up!

This is our chance!

The e-mail addresses, fax numbers, phone numbers, etc., you should use are ALL on Enterprise:

http://www.enterprisemission.com/help.htm

Remember -- copy your e-mails to as MANY folks as you can, simultaneously -- NASA, the Congress, the TV networks, newspapers, etc. It's "who ELSE" sees them (who might act before they do ... and thus get the credit!) that they truly care about.

9/7/05 3:00 AM  
Jared Howe said...

Mr. Hoagland,
I grew up watching Star Trek in the 60's and have always been interested in space and science. I always wanted to be an astronomer, but was never good enough in mathmatics to pull it off. I purchased your book the Monuments of Mars in it's first printing and have loaned it to many people over the years. Currently a 20 year old college student is reading the book, he is the son of a friend. I am convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that we are not alone in this universe. I always wondered about the asteroid belt beyond Mars. The thought that it may have at one time been a planet that exploded is a very compelling explanation for the asteroid belts existence. I listened to Coast to Coast this evening and went to your website to review your blog. Is it possible Temple 1 is a spacecraft?!!! It reminds me of the Star Trek episode where an asteroid was really a spaceship and the people on board never knew the truth. Kirk was Kirock, remember. Wow! Temple 1 a spaceship! Mind boggling. We deserve to know the truth. All we ask is that NASA tell us the truth. However, that may never come.... so, we depend on you to give us the facts and energize our thinking. Thank you for Monuments of Mars. It changed my life and the way I think. There are many of us who appreciate all your hard work and efforts, and I ask you to keep up the good work. Also, Iapetus has me astounded as well. Amazing! Jared Howe, Kansas City, Kansas.

23/7/05 1:28 AM  

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