"Hyperdimensional Katrina": New Evidence
The President has landed ... and will land again this morning.
On Friday afternoon last week, as part of his whirlwind tour of the devastated southern Gulf Coast ... five days after the landfall of Hurricane Katrina -- the President of the United States stepped out of Marine One, in Mobile, Alabama, and said:
"We have a responsibility to help clean up this mess ....
It's as if he entire Gulf Coast were obliterated by the worst kind of weapon you can imagine [emphasis added]."
The President then flew on to New Orleans, and viewed the mile after mile of gasoline-rainbowed waters from the air ... waters that had escaped from the broached levees and now swirled around hundreds of thousands of water-ravaged homes and apartment buildings abandoned before the coming onslaught of Katrina.
The President touched down once in New Orleans, spending about a half hour watching the U.S. Army Corp of Engineers attempt to plug one levee breach.
Unlike in Alabama or Mississippi, Mr. Bush did NOT meet with any actual Katrina victims in New Orleans. Except for the brief "photo-op" on the levee, and an equally-brief appearance at a news conference held at the Louis B. Armstrong International Airport, ten miles northwest of flooded downtown New Orleans, the President's only view of the tragedy of New Orleans was ... from the air ....
Unseen from Marine One that Friday evening were the literally thousands of New Orleanians still trapped in their drowned homes -- struggling to stay alive in attics now barely above the rising waterline, frantically calling for help on their dying cell phones ... until they died themselves.
The President of Jefferson Parish, Louisiana, Aaron Broussard, told one such horrific story to Tim Russert on NBC's "Meet the Press," yesterday morning:
"... The guy who runs this building I'm in, emergency management, he's responsible for everything. His mother was trapped in St. Bernard nursing home and every day she called him and said, 'Are you coming, son? Is somebody coming?' And he said, 'Yeah, Mama, somebody's coming to get you. Somebody's coming to get you on Tuesday. Somebody's coming to get you on Wednesday. Somebody's coming to get you on Thursday. Somebody's coming to get you on Friday.'
"And, she drowned Friday night ... she drowned Friday night!
Even as Marine One was finally flying overhead ....
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In the Sunday Edition of the Greater New Orleans newspaper, The Times-Picayune, on the eve of the President's return to New Orleans this morning, the paper published an Open Letter to the President, saying:
"... We're angry, Mr. President, and we'll be angry long after our beloved city and surrounding parishes have been pumped dry. Our people deserved rescuing. Many who could have been were not. That's to the government's shame.
"Mayor Ray Nagin did the right thing Sunday when he allowed those with no other alternative to seek shelter from the storm inside the Louisiana Superdome. We still don't know what the death toll is, but one thing is certain: Had the Superdome not been opened, the city's death toll would have been higher. The toll may even have been exponentially higher.
"It was clear to us by late morning Monday that many people inside the Superdome would not be returning home. It should have been clear to our government, Mr. President. So why weren't they evacuated out of the city immediately? We learned seven years ago, when Hurricane Georges threatened, that the Dome isn't suitable as a long-term shelter. So what did state and national officials think would happen to tens of thousands of people trapped inside with no air conditioning, overflowing toilets and dwindling amounts of food, water and other essentials?
"State Rep. Karen Carter was right Friday when she said the city didn't have but two urgent needs: "Buses! And gas!" Every official at the Federal Emergency Management Agency should be fired, Director Michael Brown especially.
"In a nationally televised interview Thursday night, he said his agency hadn't known until that day that thousands of storm victims were stranded at the Ernest N. Morial Convention Center. He gave another nationally televised interview the next morning and said, 'We've provided food to the people at the Convention Center so that they've gotten at least one, if not two meals, every single day.'
"Lies don't get more bald-faced than that, Mr. President.
"Yet, when you met with Mr. Brown Friday morning, you told him, "You're doing a heck of a job."
"That's unbelievable."
Among the voices now calling for a major Congressional investigation into these continuing lies, is that of Jefferson Parish President, Aaron Broussard:
"We have been abandoned by our own country. Hurricane Katrina will go down in history as one of the worst storms ever to hit an American coast, but the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina will go down as one of the worst abandonments of Americans on American soil ever in U.S. history. I am personally asking our bipartisan congressional delegation here in Louisiana to immediately begin congressional hearings to find out just what happened here. Why did it happen? Who needs to be fired? And believe me, they need to be fired right away, because we still have weeks to go in this tragedy. We have months to go. We have years to go. And whoever is at the top of this totem pole, that totem pole needs to be chain-sawed off and we've got to start with some new leadership.
"It's not just Katrina that caused all these deaths in New Orleans here. Bureaucracy has committed murder here in the greater New Orleans area, and bureaucracy has to stand trial before Congress now. It's so obvious. FEMA needs more congressional funding. It needs more presidential support. It needs to be a Cabinet-level director. It needs to be an independent agency that will be able to fulfill its mission to work in partnership with state and local governments around America. FEMA needs to be empowered to do the things it was created to do. It needs to come somewhere, like New Orleans, with all of its force immediately, without red tape, without bureaucracy, act immediately with common sense and leadership, and save lives. Forget about the property. We can rebuild the property. It's got to be able to come in and save lives.
"We need strong leadership at the top of America right now in order to accomplish this and to-- reconstructing FEMA ...."
"... We had Wal-Mart deliver three trucks of water ... trailer trucks of water. FEMA turned them back. They said we didn't need them. This was a week ago .....
"FEMA--we had 1,000 gallons of diesel fuel on a Coast Guard vessel docked in my
Parish. The Coast Guard said, "Come get the fuel right away." When we got there with our trucks, they got a word. "FEMA says don't give you the fuel." Yesterday--yesterday!--FEMA comes in and cuts all of our emergency communication lines! They cut them without notice."Our sheriff, Harry Lee, goes back in, he reconnects the line. He posts armed guards on our line and says, "No one is getting near these lines." Sheriff Harry Lee said that if America--[the] American government would have responded like Wal-Mart has responded, we wouldn't be in this crisis [emphasis added] ...."
One of our most pointed issues -- asked even before Katrina hit the Gulf Coast, precisely a week ago, last Sunday night/Monday morning -- was this essential question:
"Was Katrina another 'Hyperdimensional Hurricane!?'"
Sources have confirmed to The Enterprise Mission all this past week that Katrina was, indeed, both "maneuvered and enhanced" ... by one secret group deliberately intending to cause the devastating National catastrophe we have been witnessing on all our TV screens for the past horrifying week!!
While another group worked feverishly (after much delay ... and "at the last minute") to divert it.
This, we were told, was the reason for the last-minute "jog" to the east ... which spared New Orleans the brunt of the storm, but subjected other sections of the Gulf Coast -- in Mississippi and in Alabama -- to total destruction ... for tens of miles inland rom the Coast!
But -- our critics continue to demand -- where's the hard evidence supporting this obviously "ridiculous" claim that this storm was "manufactured" ...?
Well, during one of my all-too-many "Katrina Updates" on "Coast to Coast" last week, Dr. Robin Falkov was sent the literal "smoking gun" of our entire "we are under attack in an undeclared 'weather war'" scenario! (With due acknowledgement, this astonishing, official confirmation of our "developing weather war hypothesis" was also brought to our attention by many of the loyal "crew members" reading and commenting here ... in last week's "Captain's Blog.")
The amazing, documented evidence is actually a formal Bill -- quietly introduced into the House and Senate of the United States Congress, this past Spring -- calling for the establishment of a "Weather Modification Operations and Research Board" by October 1, 2005 ... in just a few short weeks!!
HUH??!!
Introduced by Senator Kay Hutchison (R-TX), on March 3, 2005 (more "33's" anyone ...?) -- Senate Bill 517 is formally termed:
"Weather Modification Research and Technology Transfer Authorization Act of 2005."
Here are only a few of its deceptively simple, but in reality quite extraordinary provisions ....
SEC. 2. PURPOSE.
It is the purpose of this Act to develop and implement a comprehensive and coordinated national weather modification policy and a national cooperative Federal and State program of weather modification research and development ....
SEC. 7. COOPERATION WITH THE WEATHER MODIFICATION OPERATIONS AND RESEARCH BOARD.
The heads of the departments and agencies of the United States and the heads of any other public or private agencies and institutions that receive research funds from the United States shall, to the extent possible, give full support and cooperation to the Board and to initiate independent research and development programs that address weather modifications.
SEC. 8. FUNDING.
(a) IN GENERAL- There is established within the Treasury of the United States the Weather Modification Research and Development Fund, which shall consist of amounts appropriated pursuant to subsection (b) or received by the Board under subsection (c).
(b) AUTHORIZATION OF APPROPRIATIONS- There is authorized to be appropriated to the Board for the purposes of carrying out the provisions of this Act $10,000,000 for each of fiscal years 2005 through 2014. Any sums appropriated under this subsection shall remain available, without fiscal year limitation, until expended.
(c) GIFTS- The Board may accept, use, and dispose of gifts or donations of services or property.
SEC. 9. EFFECTIVE DATE.
This Act shall take effect on October 1, 2005 [emphasis added].
In a future "Captain's Blog," we shall analyze the precise language of this Act -- which reveals the amazing political and technological latitude now to be given to the U.S. Government ... to wage a literal "weather war" by formal Act of Congress.
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Which -- as you visit Louisiana yet again today, Mr. President -- raises the unavoidable question now:
"With whom are we at 'war' ... that we must bring this highly secret technology to legal status now ...?"
"And -- if we are 'at war' -- why is it still 'secret!' ... after the obvious and devastating blow struck by Hurricane Katrina ... which you yourself likened to "the worst kind of weapon you can imagine ...?"
"As still free Americans, we deserve some answers, Mr. President -- and now."
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Richard:
Who do you think we are at war with using this weather modification technology? Why?
I was wondering the same thing, who and why? I've seen some links that say the Russians and some AumRyShikio(sp)that Japanese religious cult. However, I get the feeling it is our own "Owls" and "Roosters" much like the same problem we have in NASA. That weather modification bill is most disturbing.
dear RCH :-)
> I have NO idea what you're getting at: "responsibility?"
> Isn't telling the truth and getting the lies exposed, "responsible?"
An example....like the bit in the matrix where morpheus talks about
'not going for anyone who's too old' cus' it's too much of a shock
coming out of 'a matrix' TOO FAST !
Another: The jedi council in star wars....they embody some kind of
responsibility in the face of the dark side...
(But AM I being responsible? Mmmm)
Just checking....this SO big !
djbarney
This is the end, my friend.
The End
PIF said...
>>Richard said...
>>PIF,
Still think this is JUST "disorganization?"
>Yes. Many here keep laboring under a misaprehension about who was/is supposed to do what when. That the media keeps reinforcing it doesn't help.
>It is NOT the federal gov's job to be the first responder. The first response is: city/town, county, state. Each entity is required to create a disaster plan to protect/help/evacuate it's citizens. If the city/town does not do its job and follow their plan, then the county must pick up the slack and follow its own plan as well. If neither follow their plans, then it is up to the state to do the entire job.
>In the case of N.O., the mayor did not follow his plan, leaving many many schoolbuses parked for one thing. The county/parish did little or nothing. The Governor did nothing. Thus, there was no mass evacuation, only those with cars able to get on the 8 lane highway were able to move out - where on they discovered that only 2 lanes were open for much of the way out. So there was a huge creeeping traffic jam.
>As for the national guard - only the governor had the power to call them out - see posse comitatas act. They answer to the Governor, not the Feds or the President in local emergencies. Blanco did not use her power given by law. When the looting broke out, she dallied for some time before declaring that looting would be met with force.
>Contrast LA's behavior with nearly as hard hit MS, which dealt with the problems as they came up until the Guard was able to come in en mass from other states to aid them. When FL was hit with terrible huricanes last year, the governor led the efforts, not so in LA.
>As for the shootings yesterday - there are conflicting reports about what happened. However, it was not some plot to halt efforts, and was by some local gang types - of which there is no shortage.
>Could FEMA et al moved faster? - Definitly, but since we live in a constitutional republic based on Federalism - the seperation of powers - the Fed is charged with defending and protecting the country as a whole, while the individual states have their own responsibilities which are equal and in some cases superior under law - such as calling out the state's Guard - and with 77% of the LA guard home it should have been a no brainer to call them out immediately, instead it was the governor who was the no brainer.<
As someone once said: you have been "unresponsive" to the question:
A Chief Executive of the First tier of your "disaster responsibility tree" -- the LOCAL Parish president -- reports on National Television that FEMA (an arm of the LAST tier, the Federal Government) STOPPED his active efforts to fulfill his Constitutional responsibility at every turn ... from fuel ... to water ... to crucial communciations ....
And all you can do is give us all a "civics lesson?"
Tsk .. tsk ...tsk ....
I think you're in obvious denial ... of some VERY nasty stuff. With more to come ....
Does anyone have a log of the HAARP activity during this time? Did that have anything to do with the weather modification war either offensively or defensively?
There has been much signaling in the clear. GW's statement about the worst weapon imaginable is devastatingly clear to anyone who's been paying attention. Chertoff's "The Feds Control New Orleans" is another.
Rumor Central has it that 'something' was on the docks in New Orleans. With Jesse Jackson snuggling Hugo Chavez last week, and Blanco dining with Castro, M13 clearly aiding and abetting Al-Queda on our southern border, the depth of the threat on our southern flanks, the image of ChiComs shipping AKs by the thousands through San Diego to American inner city street gangs comes vividly to mind.
Chaos is opportunity for our enemies, and yes, it's a long list and some of that is In Our House, the worst kind. During a catastrophe like this, many people will go missing, identities will be lost, altered and revised. Bad men will disappear only to reappear under new names in new places. In terms of street gangs, one man who knows what is going to happen is worth at least a handful who don't know. There were certainly organized people ready to strike if this opportunity arose. Major works of art, caches of drugs and money, banks, collections, gems all will go missing in the chaos, planned and directed, but most importantly, the docks would be temporarily unattended. A perfect scenario for slipping something past the border. Ocean going containers. Many of them. Just the thing to deliver weapons for street wars, bio-chem weapons, and the most feared of all, a "device".
But there's Chertoff repeating a mantra. The Feds Are In Control. Like GW, I'd bet money that was a signal to undisclosed third and fourth parties, using the media as a release point for disclosure. And why Blanco fought to keep the feds out, even though it meant losing a city and condemning thousands of innocents. The Louisiana state level response indicates to me a corrupt political machine more afraid of something worse than losing an entire city, since they fought to keep the feds out, what did they fear the feds would find, or do? What does Blanco fear more than the federal government? What deal has she cut that will be revealed?
France has long been the hive out of which the worst of mankind's evils has spread. Masonry, communism, humanism, secret societies, banking oligarchies, pretenders to a faux-bloodline of Christ, Napoleon, and then the Revolution, then magisterial bureaucratic royalty, harboring every maniacal genocidal despot imaginable, actively seeking the death of Israel, birthing the EU monster, supporting every insane Islamic radical, obstructing peace in the Middle East at every turn, fawning bed-mate of the old Soviet regime, you name it, France is culpable and New Orleans was their al-queda (the base) on American soil. French is the official language of Louisiana. And Napoleonic Code rules New Orleans rather than common law, a code that defines you as Guilty until you can prove your Innocence.
But more than all this, an attempt to create havoc wherein the Greater Opportunity lay, and the federal apparatus counter-striking, watch for a catastrophic seismic event to turn the West Coast into 10x the damage seen on the Gulf. Our enemies are certain that in extremis, the USA will not be able to globally project power while simultaneously managing disaster at home. Because soon after we're stretched thin between the West Coast and the Gulf, I would expect the bang we've feared somewhere on the East Coast, stretching our disaster response completely across the nation, West, East and Middle.
An email from a friend, a West Coast geologist, told me she was last week doing an emergency evac of her family to Denver, because a seismic event was going to (her words) unzip the West coast from Mexico to Vancouver. She said to watch for activity from Yellowstone to the Cascades, but most importantly the Salton Sea, and sure enough the next day seismic swarms registered around the Salton. She's in Denver having, essentially, abandoned home and property. But then you'd have to also recognize how much underground activity is going on at the Denver Federal Center to appreciate why she chose Denver. Most telling is re-tasking the 4th ID just down to road in the Springs, our biggest baddest ground force, along with the CIA moving a chunk of its operations to Denver, and all our space operations clustering in and around the Front Range.
An Op was caught and stood down in New Orleans, IMHO. The corrupt political machine of Louisiana has been caught aiding and abetting our enemies, IMHO. GW told us Tom Bearden is right, and Chertoff told us that this time the Good Guys got there in time.
But at the same time, preparations are underway, so it seems, to make a stand in the deep middle of the nation, in Denver. After all, the new national energy policy is an emergency restart of oil shale which is but 160 miles west of Denver. All the oil, the best the Army has, an airport too big to be merely an airport, a defensible center of the nation redoubt, an underground city out on 6th Avenue.....
Center punch to the body. Left haymaker. Right haymaker.
As Hunter Thompson wrote, the hog is in the tunnel.
Richard, do u sleep sir?
Well firstly 33 that's an area, I'm good at...
Bush is a 33rd Degree Elite Shrub, errrm I meant FreeMason...
Elite at what...??? To recap 333 and 33
FREEMASONARY the highest order is the 33rd degree
IF we analyse some events since the TEMPEL 1 mission, and as I started and traced the oily greasy trail right back to an individual so deep in RITUALISTIC Numerology and occult worhsip (yes WHORESHIP, an adulterous spiritual course).
$333 million spent on TEMPEL 1 Mission (July 4th 2005)
333 Hours and 33 minutes NASA Shuttle Mission (July 26th-August 14th 2005)
$333 Billion Dollar Deficit for Congress (July 2005)
333 Foot tall, George Washington FREEMASON Memorial.
March the 3rd for this document?
troduced: Mar 3, 2005
Sponsor: Sen. Kay Hutchison [R-TX]
Status: Introduced (By Sen. Kay Hutchison [R-TX])
Last Action: Mar 3, 2005: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation. (text of measure as introduced: CR S2025-2026)
3/3/2005
33 again???
THIS is NO coicidence AGAIN!!!
Anyone can google news.google.com for 33 and BUSH
Prepare for your eyes to be opened, then search for 555
The WASHINGON MONUNUMENT (FREEMASON OBELISK IN A CIRCLE CLEARLY AN EGYPTIAN PENIS WORSHIP POLE) is 555 foot tall
5th book of the bible, 5th chapter, 5th verse and fifth word - Jehovah!
The rumour (as yet unconfirmed, is that 111 foot of the memorial are underground?)
Anyone care to do the math, the missing 20% of the memorial underground?
This ritualistic FREEMASONARY being witnessed in Numerology, is SADISTIC AND SATANIC, if BUSH was influenced by a LOVING Force then it would be evident in his works, however, he has brought HIS SOCIETY OF FREEMASONARY to A NEW LOW, he REPRESENTS THE ELITE of FREEMASONARY...
Do I need to say more?
What about Cindy Sheehan Mr Bush?
What about all the abandoned US CITIZENS MR BUSH?
Why would a NATION BE MORE UPSET and 33 years that the chief Justice Renqhist death, than the poor people of NOLA???
IS that 33 years indicative of his FREEMASON STATUS - Rhetorical question
If All the citizens of New Orleans had been FREEMASONS would BUSH have responded faster? - Rhetorical Question!
IT's sickening, and it's EVIDENCE of OCCULT SATANIC WORSHIP...
J aka 'Fuming'
Richard,
You're putting a lot of stock in the Aaron Broussard account of events; overdramatization for political gain tends to be the norm in today's over-politicized political environment. Also, the media has whipped everyone into a greater frenzy by, for instance, overexaggerating the number of people stranded at the convention center as "many thousands" when the actual total number is 4200. The media also has left the impression that "all of New Orleans" has been totally decimated by flooding, when most of "the greater New Orleans area" is bone dry (go to NOAA.GOV for the actual aftermath photos).
As a 30 year resident of the city, I can assure you that the corruption, mismanagement, institutional poverty, blatant "reverse racism" towards whites, etc. are and have been very real, almost surrealistic. Check the aftermath of hurricane Betsy in 1965 (the last time this type of flooding occurred); it took over 3 weeks for victims to be rescued from rooftops, so this scenario is not uncommon.
If weather weapons are being used, then, I for one, want to know about it firsthand like everyone else. But, if it is the usual incompetence and arrogance of many people who live in New Orleans AND the local/state then I would like some kind of admission from everyone here.
Keeping digging into the historic local infrastucture of New Orleans government, Richard.
" As a 30 year resident of the city, I can assure you that the corruption, mismanagement, institutional poverty, blatant "reverse racism" towards whites, etc. are and have been very real, almost surrealistic. Check the aftermath of hurricane Betsy in 1965 (the last time this type of flooding occurred); it took over 3 weeks for victims to be rescued from rooftops, so this scenario is not uncommon.
If weather weapons are being used, then, I for one, want to know about it firsthand like everyone else. But, if it is the usual incompetence and arrogance of many people who live in New Orleans AND the local/state then I would like some kind of admission from everyone here.
Keeping digging into the historic local infrastucture of New Orleans government, Richard.
5/9/05 9:15 AM"
I'm interested, you are Anonymous, can you assist with the infrastructure point? You theoretically should be able to post a little more of the insight into the infrastructure part?
I live in St Kitt's I'm a TALL WHITE MAN, I have BLONDE HAIR, the LOCAL people are African descent, meaning the VAST majority of people here are black, WE ALL live together, my nickname here is WHOOP WHOOP. IT's not WHITEY, It's not anything other than respectful and loving...
SO WHY DOES REVERSE RACISM EXIST IN THE USA???
Classist ELITIST CULTURE... The rich have raped the poor and left 4200 where, that's still more than hundreds to me thats THOUSANDS, more than 1000 and it's a f[...]g disgrace!!!
so I live in a country, where the president, my doctor, the chief of police and the chief Magistrate are BLACK!!!
Yet mysteriously EVERYONE GETS on! We are an independant nation (since ~1967)...
My point is this, AN UNDERCLASS, have been BLATANTLY ABUSED BY AN ELITIST CLASS
BUSH is a 33rd degree ELITIST whose GRANDFATHER was linked to NAZI POW CAMPS and OIL AND OF COURSE TEXAS...
where did the KKK originate again???
So please My Anonymous, post a little more about the 'INFRASTRUCTURE' of NEW ORLEANS...
Here I am commenting away in the last blog and BOFFO! NEW blog!
I made about 5 posts at ehe end of the last blog...some were thanks, some were questions/comments, 1 was a big bird finger to an anonymous.
Now let me read THIS!
hey SunKing, Bro, was wondering when u was gonna jump over :)
Welcome to da new blog and if u wanna help me flip da bird here... yep a OWL bird to hoot at ...maybe we can get some visibility on CNN with this one... Jack Cafferty this PM
LETS MAKE SOME LOUDER noise!!!
email: caffertyfile@cnn.com
Richard,
What can we as The American People do to expose and do something about these increasingly blatant attacks on our soils, and our peoples? There has GOT to be a way we can retake control of this wonderful Country..
I have been reading your website for a long time, since I found it, and also have been pouring over the document "The Dulce Book", and the papers called "Zero Point Physics" from zap.dnai. And with this knowledge at hand, I believe in my heart and mind that the more we all become aware of these events and attacks on everyone, we have a distinct responsibily, a Moral responsibily, to do SOMETHING!!
All those who follow Richard Hoaglands' blog, should find and read the above mentioned documents. Maybe if enough people were aware of the tip of the iceburg of events in this country, others would begin feeling like I do.
Something MUST be done.....
We, the good people of this Country, need to regain control of these United States. We have all been like sheep, following our medias' and entertainment with a detached air. We all have...
Keep up the good work, Richard. I eagerly await more information. I hope that this and other events going on spur enough people up to motivate us all to do something about all of this.
Our "National Security" is something we all should be involved in...
jojens
I looked at the NOAA photos of the ones listed as NO. They all show flooding in all the photos. Some areas were dry, but the photos showed massive flooding. You may want to review the photo captions anonymous.
As a side note, do you think, like after Andrew, we are going to see any insurance company ads declaring how quickly they helped their customers during this crisis? :O
Richard,
Arrrrrgh, aye, aye, Cap'n!
More from "the RABID Bush Hater"
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/
September 4, 2005 -- Reports continue that communications in and around New Orleans are being purposely jammed (and severed) by the US government (see Sep. 2 article below). The jamming is having an adverse impact on emergency, disaster recovery, and news media communications. The jamming is even affecting police radio frequencies in Jefferson Parish, according to an Australian news report. The President of Jefferson Parish Aaron Broussard told Meet the Press today that FEMA cut his parish's emergency communications lines and he had to have his sheriff restore the severed lines and post armed deputies to ensure that FEMA did not try to cut the communications lines again. Broussard's statement: "Yesterday--yesterday--FEMA comes in and cuts all of our emergency communication lines. They cut them without notice. Our sheriff, Harry Lee, goes back in, he reconnects the line. He posts armed guards on our line and says, 'No one is getting near these lines.'"
Jamming radio and other communications such as television signals is part of a Pentagon tactic called "information blockade" or "technology blockade." The tactic is one of a number of such operations that are part of the doctrine of "information warfare" and is one of the psychological operations (PSYOPS) methods used by the US Special Operations Command. Jamming is currently being used by US forces in Iraq and was used by the US Navy in the botched coup attempt against President Hugo Chavez in April 2002. US Navy ships off the Venezuelan coast jammed diplomatic, military, emergency services, police, and even taxi cab frequencies in Caracas and other large cities.
From "The Manchurian Printer," Simson L. Garfinkel [The Boston Sunday Globe, March 5, 1995, Focus Section, Page 83]:
"Not surprisingly, the unclassified version of the Pentagon's report barely mentions the offensive possibilities of Information Warfare---capabilities that the Pentagon currently has under development. Nevertheless, these capabilities are alluded to in several of the diagrams, which show a keen interest by the military in OOTW---Operations Other Than War. "They have things like information influence, perception management, and PSYOPS---psychological operations," says Wayne Madsen, a lead scientist at the Computer Sciences Corporation in northern Virginia, who has studied the summer study report. 'Basically, I think that what they are talking about is having the capability to censor and put out propaganda on the networks. That includes global news networks like CNN and BBC, your information services, like CompuServe and Prodigy,' and communications satellite networks. 'When they talk about 'technology blockade,' they want to be able to block data going into or out of a certain region of the world that they may be attacking."'
ALERT: WMR readers should be aware that web sites like Democratic Underground are "locking" information on the radio jamming in Louisiana and the corruption involved in FEMA hurricane disaster preparedness (IEM Team contract). Readers should also be aware that the Pentagon's technology blockade strategy extends to the Internet. Web sites like Democratic Underground and Daily Kos have a lot of explaining to do when they censor critical information during a national emergency. These web sites, along with Fox News and the other news sources with overt and covert political agendas, are not serving in the public interest and should be avoided as sources for important information. For example, some Daily Kos posters are questioning whether FEMA deliberately cut Jefferson Parish's emergency telephone lines. That is because many of those involved with Daily Kos and Democratic Underground are squishy Democrats with a pretty obvious agenda. - WM
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September 4, 2005 -- Bush the "Uniter" in action. After President Clinton threatened to physically assault House Speaker Dennis Hastert for his comments about bulldozing New Orleans, Louisiana Senator Mary Landrieu told ABC's George Stephanopoulos on This Week that if President Bush criticizes New Orleans' law enforcement one more time, she will punch him and that he will have to "fear from me." If Senator Landrieu needs someone to hold the pathetic Boy King while she lays one right in his cake hole, I'm available.
Meanwhile, 200 New Orleans policemen have resigned after two in their ranks committed suicide. The death toll may far exceed 10,000. However, FEMA is already restricting the news media from reporting on the number of dead bodies in the hurricane ravaged areas of Louisiana and Mississippi. This may also have something to do with the radio jamming reportedly originating from a US Navy ship off the coast of New Orleans. Bodies are stacked up like cordwood around the Superdome and the so-called "Christians" (as well as rabbinical son Michael Chertoff) in the Bush administration are making plans for mass burials of the dead. Karl Rove, whose very adept at subtracting votes of African-Americans, will certainly begin subtracting numbers from the total dead so Bush will not go down in history as the President who was responsible for the greatest death toll from a natural disaster in the United States. President Jimmy Carter and Vice President Al Gore, real Christians, should be put in charge of the sad inter-agency task of the recovery of bodies, notification of next-of-kin, and arranging proper burials. Sadly, some bodies will never be recovered due to the carnivorous marine life that now swims through the streets of New Orleans and Southeast Louisiana. But a team led by President Carter and Vice President Gore could have immediate access to intact government records or their backups to determine who was lost in the catastrophe and prevent White House spinmeisters like Rove from tinkering with the overall death count. When the leadership of a nation fails, it is common practice to look to past capable leaders to pick up the pieces and carry the nation forward. Forget after action reports Chertoff and Bush, just do it now!
ADDENDUM from HH231:
After thinking about this jamming question for awhile, I am coming into agreement with SUNKING that temporary jamming may have been employed along the gulf coast for the duration of the Bush Apostolic visit, to protect him from real or imagined radio detonated devices. But as far as verifying or falsifying the presence of jamming by whether or not the "High Kahunas of HAM" can hear it or not in the presence of say a 455 KHZ jammer, a short (partial) lesson on SUPERHET signal reception is in order.: Superheterodyne reception usually involves two or more steps of frequency "downconversion" to get the signal to an audible frequency. Specifically, the 1st IF stage inputs an RF signal from the antenna tuner and pre-amp into the 1st mixer which basically multiplies the RF input signal with a 1st local oscillator signal of a different frequency. The LO is selected depending on the desired RF frequency channel to be selected. The designed center frequency of the mixer output will ALWAYS be the same and will be related to the input frequencies by; Fif = Frf - Flo. (Amplitude multiplication of signals in the mixer results in a DIFFERENCE or BEAT frequency at the output given by the above formula. A frequency SUM is also created, but usually removed by a filter.) The critical point is that since the IF output center frequency is ALWAYS the same, such as 455 KHZ, a simple jamming device that can generate a continuous wave, noise or tone modulated signal at this frequency at a VERY HIGH power level, could easily penetrate the sometimes meager shielding of a radio receiver and induce itself upon the mixer output , which will then be processed as a FALSE signal by the downstream 2nd mixer and other components of the receiver. For stealth purposes, such a jammer might be modulated with white noise. At any rate, the true signal output will be overwhelmed by the false signal , REGARDLESS OF WHAT CHANNEL THE RECIEVER IS TUNED TO. The operator might still be able to transmit , but he would HEAR NO RESPONSE. Now, if a similar method is used on the UPCONVERSION chain of the TRANSMITTER MODULATOR, one could have a similar result on the transmitted signal. The net result? A communications "deadzone".Everybody would think that there was no communication out of the area. The only way to prove jamming would be to specifically check the jamming IF frequencies. The only protections: shield the transmitter /rcvr core elements and/or go to a NON-standard IF (and design difficulties)
SunKing said...
>>Richard said: That means that "someone" did not WANT efficient communciations in this unfolding tragedy ... and DELIBERATELY have excluded the one group of folks who could have easily provided it!!
>>Why?
>Being a ham...I want to know a LOT more about this! Hams saved the day after Hurricane Andrew...when no agency could communicate with each other, effecting rescue coordination, it was the Hams that provided the means to provide comms during the 1st 48 hours.
>Not sure if I mentioned this...Pif alluded to it...but this affair certainly has all the earmarks of bureacratic turf war...or maybe payback?
>OH...and I heard on TV tha Mike Brown, FEMA Dir, "largest" management job was as head of the Arabian Show Horse Association, or some such. No emergenecy management training at all.
>Hell, to be a measley Shelter Manager, you have to at least take a string of FEMA courses!
>What madness!!<
As a HAM, I'm deputizing you to find out WHAT REALLY HAPPENED with these folks ASAP. :)
HAMS LOVE to talk to one another. In fact, that's a LOT of what they do .... :)
So, there should be a wealth of highly specific, documentable stories -- as Art alluded to the other night on "Coast" -- of HAMS offering their services to help with rescue, communications, etc. ... only to be TURNED DOWN by FEMA.
We need to DOCUMENT those instances. The more (from as many different perspectives) the better ....
This continual referral to a "profound problem of communciations" by the relief agencies -- as a means of excusing and "explaining away" their obvious lack of prompt attention to New Orleans -- ranks up there right along with "well, we had no access to New orleans because of all the water," as REALLY LAME "excuses."
WHY was "communciations" between relief agencies and the National Guard "so poor?" Loss of cell phone towers? HF and VHF interference? Lack of enough batteries in portable radios ...?
What about the balloon-born communciations systems currently flying over a dozen MAJOR cities in ther U.S. since 9/11 -- as a specific back-up communications system to alleviate just this specific problem ... first identified as the MAJOR problem confronting "first responders" during 9/11?
And, what about IRIDIUM and other global SATELLITE phone systems?
Doesn't FEMA, the National Guard, the New Orleans Police Department, the NO Fire Department ... and all other relief agencies ... KNOW about "satellite phones" ... in the 21st Century??!!
How come the TV Networks have SATELLITE phones? And, yet, the Feds and other relief agencies apparently did NOT?
Questions ... questions ... questions.
This, of course, does NOT even BEGIN to get into the reasons why FEMA would DELIBERATELY cut the Jefferson parish emergency communciations phone lines ... unless, of course, ALL communications was actually being TIGHTLY controlled by FEMA ... for some "nefarious" reason ....
Find those HAMS ... and get them to talk!!
Thanks.
Wayne Davis said...
As a side note, do you think, like after Andrew, we are going to see any insurance company ads declaring how quickly they helped their customers during this crisis? :O
HAHA...."I was standin' up to my eyeballs in gator doo doo and toxic rainbow-colored water....tryin to find a bag of ice for my insulin...and my Sunken State Farm agent brought me some wading boots. Because of my agent, I didn't get dysentery!"
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Wayne Davis said...
>As a side note, do you think, like after Andrew, we are going to see any insurance company ads declaring how quickly they helped their customers during this crisis? :O<
Already have: Geico ... this morning. :)
Must have been all those images of cars piled up like jackstraws ....
RCH said;
Already have: Geico ... this morning. :)
Must have been all those images of cars piled up like jackstraws ....
Well, I guess that doesn't surprise me or shouldn't. More reaping benefit from an other's misery.
Knowing this administration, a lot of people will be promoted over this.
I can't get over the fact that the "jogging" maneuver was so late and so ineffectual, just like everything else since then.
OT - MGS Problems - Seen this?
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/09/05/computer_crash_photo_op/
Interview with FEMA director Mike Brown on 9-1-05
the full interview is found here http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/weather/july-dec05/breakdown_9-1.html
JIM LEHRER: Peter Slevin of the Washington Post was interviewed by Ray Suarez a few moments ago here on this program. He's in New Orleans, spent all day there, and he said the most striking thing that he has seen is there seems to be nobody in charge. There's no information being disseminated to the victims of this, and people are in a state of panic. What's the problem, Mr. Brown?
MIKE BROWN: Well, we're -- first of all, it's amazing to me how much communications have been broken down. There literally is no communications within the city of New Orleans. The cell towers are down. It's difficult even to use the satellite phones and to make the communications with those like we normally do.
We're working very closely with Mayor Nagin to be able to communicate with him. We've taken Army helicopters and moved into the Baton battleship, a command post that he can use so that he can communicate with his people.
But he's one mayor trying to communicate to all of those people without a telephone, without a way to distribute a newspaper or anything else. So we're trying to give him all the resources we can to communicate to his citizens.
-- And Ham operators were NOT allowed to assist in this disaster? Mike Brown is gone. I don't see any reason
for this to be delayed. The stakes were way too high.
Hyperdimensional Hedgehog 231 said...
>More from "the RABID Bush Hater"
>http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/
>September 4, 2005 -- Reports continue that communications in and around New Orleans are being purposely jammed (and severed) by the US government (see Sep. 2 article below). The jamming is having an adverse impact on emergency, disaster recovery, and news media communications. The jamming is even affecting police radio frequencies in Jefferson Parish, according to an Australian news report. The President of Jefferson Parish Aaron Broussard told Meet the Press today that FEMA cut his parish's emergency communications lines and he had to have his sheriff restore the severed lines and post armed deputies to ensure that FEMA did not try to cut the communications lines again. Broussard's statement: "Yesterday--yesterday--FEMA comes in and cuts all of our emergency communication lines. They cut them without notice. Our sheriff, Harry Lee, goes back in, he reconnects the line. He posts armed guards on our line and says, 'No one is getting near these lines.'"
>Jamming radio and other communications such as television signals is part of a Pentagon tactic called "information blockade" or "technology blockade." The tactic is one of a number of such operations that are part of the doctrine of "information warfare" and is one of the psychological operations (PSYOPS) methods used by the US Special Operations Command. Jamming is currently being used by US forces in Iraq and was used by the US Navy in the botched coup attempt against President Hugo Chavez in April 2002. US Navy ships off the Venezuelan coast jammed diplomatic, military, emergency services, police, and even taxi cab frequencies in Caracas and other large cities.
>From "The Manchurian Printer," Simson L. Garfinkel [The Boston Sunday Globe, March 5, 1995, Focus Section, Page 83]:
>"Not surprisingly, the unclassified version of the Pentagon's report barely mentions the offensive possibilities of Information Warfare---capabilities that the Pentagon currently has under development. Nevertheless, these capabilities are alluded to in several of the diagrams, which show a keen interest by the military in OOTW---Operations Other Than War. "They have things like information influence, perception management, and PSYOPS---psychological operations," says Wayne Madsen, a lead scientist at the Computer Sciences Corporation in northern Virginia, who has studied the summer study report. 'Basically, I think that what they are talking about is having the capability to censor and put out propaganda on the networks. That includes global news networks like CNN and BBC, your information services, like CompuServe and Prodigy,' and communications satellite networks. 'When they talk about 'technology blockade,' they want to be able to block data going into or out of a certain region of the world that they may be attacking."'
>ALERT: WMR readers should be aware that web sites like Democratic Underground are "locking" information on the radio jamming in Louisiana and the corruption involved in FEMA hurricane disaster preparedness (IEM Team contract). Readers should also be aware that the Pentagon's technology blockade strategy extends to the Internet. Web sites like Democratic Underground and Daily Kos have a lot of explaining to do when they censor critical information during a national emergency. These web sites, along with Fox News and the other news sources with overt and covert political agendas, are not serving in the public interest and should be avoided as sources for important information. For example, some Daily Kos posters are questioning whether FEMA deliberately cut Jefferson Parish's emergency telephone lines. That is because many of those involved with Daily Kos and Democratic Underground are squishy Democrats with a pretty obvious agenda. - WM
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>September 4, 2005 -- Bush the "Uniter" in action. After President Clinton threatened to physically assault House Speaker Dennis Hastert for his comments about bulldozing New Orleans, Louisiana Senator Mary Landrieu told ABC's George Stephanopoulos on This Week that if President Bush criticizes New Orleans' law enforcement one more time, she will punch him and that he will have to "fear from me." If Senator Landrieu needs someone to hold the pathetic Boy King while she lays one right in his cake hole, I'm available.
>Meanwhile, 200 New Orleans policemen have resigned after two in their ranks committed suicide. The death toll may far exceed 10,000. However, FEMA is already restricting the news media from reporting on the number of dead bodies in the hurricane ravaged areas of Louisiana and Mississippi. This may also have something to do with the radio jamming reportedly originating from a US Navy ship off the coast of New Orleans. Bodies are stacked up like cordwood around the Superdome and the so-called "Christians" (as well as rabbinical son Michael Chertoff) in the Bush administration are making plans for mass burials of the dead. Karl Rove, whose very adept at subtracting votes of African-Americans, will certainly begin subtracting numbers from the total dead so Bush will not go down in history as the President who was responsible for the greatest death toll from a natural disaster in the United States. President Jimmy Carter and Vice President Al Gore, real Christians, should be put in charge of the sad inter-agency task of the recovery of bodies, notification of next-of-kin, and arranging proper burials. Sadly, some bodies will never be recovered due to the carnivorous marine life that now swims through the streets of New Orleans and Southeast Louisiana. But a team led by President Carter and Vice President Gore could have immediate access to intact government records or their backups to determine who was lost in the catastrophe and prevent White House spinmeisters like Rove from tinkering with the overall death count. When the leadership of a nation fails, it is common practice to look to past capable leaders to pick up the pieces and carry the nation forward. Forget after action reports Chertoff and Bush, just do it now!
>ADDENDUM from HH231:
After thinking about this jamming question for awhile, I am coming into agreement with SUNKING that temporary jamming may have been employed along the gulf coast for the duration of the Bush Apostolic visit, to protect him from real or imagined radio detonated devices. But as far as verifying or falsifying the presence of jamming by whether or not the "High Kahunas of HAM" can hear it or not in the presence of say a 455 KHZ jammer, a short (partial) lesson on SUPERHET signal reception is in order.: Superheterodyne reception usually involves two or more steps of frequency "downconversion" to get the signal to an audible frequency. Specifically, the 1st IF stage inputs an RF signal from the antenna tuner and pre-amp into the 1st mixer which basically multiplies the RF input signal with a 1st local oscillator signal of a different frequency. The LO is selected depending on the desired RF frequency channel to be selected. The designed center frequency of the mixer output will ALWAYS be the same and will be related to the input frequencies by; Fif = Frf - Flo. (Amplitude multiplication of signals in the mixer results in a DIFFERENCE or BEAT frequency at the output given by the above formula. A frequency SUM is also created, but usually removed by a filter.) The critical point is that since the IF output center frequency is ALWAYS the same, such as 455 KHZ, a simple jamming device that can generate a continuous wave, noise or tone modulated signal at this frequency at a VERY HIGH power level, could easily penetrate the sometimes meager shielding of a radio receiver and induce itself upon the mixer output , which will then be processed as a FALSE signal by the downstream 2nd mixer and other components of the receiver. For stealth purposes, such a jammer might be modulated with white noise. At any rate, the true signal output will be overwhelmed by the false signal , REGARDLESS OF WHAT CHANNEL THE RECIEVER IS TUNED TO. The operator might still be able to transmit , but he would HEAR NO RESPONSE. Now, if a similar method is used on the UPCONVERSION chain of the TRANSMITTER MODULATOR, one could have a similar result on the transmitted signal. The net result? A communications "deadzone".Everybody would think that there was no communication out of the area. The only way to prove jamming would be to specifically check the jamming IF frequencies. The only protections: shield the transmitter /rcvr core elements and/or go to a NON-standard IF (and design difficulties)<
CNN began the day by describing in grusome detail the coming search for bodies ... and actually following one boat crew breaking into a home yesterday ... and finding the owner dead ... floating in the bedroom.
Then, Soledad O'Brian (the CNN reporter who narrated the "search for bodies ...") spent the rest of this morning referring to "the overwhelming coming body count" in almost ALL of her subsequent reports.
I have a variety of reasons for believing that "someone" WANTS the body count to be as HIGH as possible ... and thus, we need NOT fear that it will be "undercounted."
In fact, just the opposite ....
As to the crucial "communciations problems":
I have heard NOTHING -- on any Network -- regarding the actual NATURE of these persistent "communciations problems." That in itself is strange ... for media networks devoted to the "communications business." Wuldn't THEY be curious ...?
So, I have no idea whether these problems have taken the form of "unusual, audible inteference" .... or, the "effective cone of silence" you described.
Again, we should get specific answers to these key (but relatively simple) technical questions ... from experts actually IN the regions that are said to be affected. Until we do, it's ALL just "speculation."
Stay tuned.
Hedgehog,
yeah...I see what ya mean! hmmmm..
Richard, Lemme see what I can find out!
Gentlemen,
The Deputy Police Chief of New Orleans just concluded a press conference in downtown New Orleans. Among other intriguing things, he actually DID describe the nature of the "communications problems" for the first time. He says there was simply "NO communciations" at first ... but that it's been "getting better slowly" ....
Since NO infrastructure restoriations have occurred in the last several days (no cell towers "magically" ressurrected, no power to repeater units restored, etc.) -- this would definitely seem to indicate ACTIVE "cone of silence" interference of the type that "Hedge" described ....
If we can PROVE this .... :)
Really Y'all...A weapon huh? The great god Zeus on Olympus shooting lightning bolts down on humanity...That would be more believeable.
There is a devastating flood occuring in China at this very moment. Is that a weaponized weather event?
http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=1889962005
Perhaps all of this is simply what it is, just the weather...The normal active systems that keep our planet rejuvinated and helps to maintain the balance of life.
Derick said...
Really Y'all...A weapon huh? The great god Zeus on Olympus shooting lightning bolts down on humanity...That would be more believeable.
There is a devastating flood occuring in China at this very moment. Is that a weaponized weather event?
http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=1889962005
Perhaps all of this is simply what it is, just the weather...The normal active systems that keep our planet rejuvinated and helps to maintain the balance of life.
5/9/05 11:14 AM
Or Perhaps they ARE linked, NOTICE the SHUNNING OF THE CHINESE over the OIL CHEVRON BID?
TEXTILE IMPORT DISASTER TALKS IN EUROPE...
Drought and FIRE then Flooding and evacuation of 1000's throughout Europe
Not to mention the plane crash yesterday killing 143 in Asia... and cable car crash killing 9 NINE...
It's ALL a LITTLE SUDDEN NO???
Make a very clear point... OIL???
BIG BEN STOPPED at 10:07 on the 27th of MAY 2005 (the day B4 I got Married)
It STOPPED AGAIN at 10:20 PM for 90 minutes
710...OIL
It's RUMOURED, THAT THE ILLUMINATI CONTROL THAT CLOCK??!??! Or is the FREEMASONS, TONY BLAIR undoubtedly is a FREEMASON too, which would attribute the pandering to the USA president...
New Orleans is at 120 degrees from Giza
1+2=3 and 333 is THREE to the THIRD degree... Any wonder why the Mississippi, has a triangular shape entrance? 3 Corners at 120 degrees
HMMMMMMMMMMM???
And then the abandonment of the people, Do you doubt COINCIDENCE?
33rd DEGREE ELITE shrubster running around getting photo ops, when NOLA has suffered a COMMS blackout...
AND YES I was watching CNN when a HUGE Military Ship bound for NEW ORLEANS had a VAST ANTENNA attached to the front, it was a tall antenna unusual, it looked like a specialised COMMUNICATIONS BOAT... Or WAS IT USED TO JAM SIGNALS from OUT to SEA, then turn up in an EFFORT TO DISGUISE IT'S TRUE USE that of JAMMING SIGNALS, it arrived supposedly to ASSIST...
I have to wear a CLOTHES peg when I watch FOX news way to MUCH foul smelling B.S. coming out of the administration right now, and it's gonna get worse
J aka 'ABADDON'
Another djbarney record on the TEM turntables ?:
Meat Beat Manifesto - Edge of no Control.
djbarney
On 9/1 RCH said…..
>Osiris195 said...
>Richard
Since you know so much about HD Physics, why don't you have the SOLUTION for the problems we face. Your theory should be comprehensive enough to encompass HOW we access the "higher" dimensions you speak of. Your description of these "higher" dimensions, wait, you have no description of the dimensions. You have not (or cannot) quantified OR qualified them. Until you do so, your theory is incomplete and unusable. What good is a theory if it can't be applied?<
My "solution" is political:
Awaken people to the realities which are deliberately kept from them ... so that they may take meaningful POLITICAL action.
The technical "solutions" to these problems -- as well as the mechanisms which have created the problems themselves -- are NOT currently under our POLITICAL control. Until they are ... we will only see a terrible escalation of what we're seeing on television in New Orleans now ....
It would be pointless to reinvent this "wheel" -- when folks with over 50 years headstart ALREADY CONTROL IT.
We need to get that control back ... if we still live in a Constitutionally-based Country.
It's THAT simple -- despite the continued efforts of some to confuse the issue.
Richard
Unfortunately, we have not been living in a Constitutionally based country since the Civil War, when our great President Mr. Lincoln trampled all over it. Your idea about waking people up is a great one, but most people are quite happy with the slumber they are in. Until the American people feel discomfort in their pocketbook, they will continue to be blind to their predicament. Most people think the Government actually has their best interest at heart and would NEVER question what is actually going on. Maybe .001% of the population REALLY knows what dangers we face, on a number of fronts. The conditioning and controlling process that has been utilized for thousands of years by those who control (The Annunaki?) EVERYTHING is in full gear and working like a charm. It will take the likes of a Prophet and widespread disaster (economic and natural) to shake people from their malaise. Only then will the people be ready to hear that they have been screwed by their Government and even then, most will probably WANT MORE GOVERNMENT in the aftermath to make them feel “safe”. The economic collapse is near (thanks to Central Banking) and it looks like the wheels are in motion for the huge climatic earth changes that many (Cayce, RCH, etc.) have been predicting for years. After reading your latest post, it is evident that “We the People” are pawns in an ever expanding war that now includes the weather. Will the American people be ready to hold Government accountable? I am not optimistic. I would feel more optimistic if I knew that some group I trusted had the technology to fight toe-to-toe with those who wish to keep us “in the dark” about our Origins and Destiny. I certainly don’t trust our Government because it is they who have put us where we are. When Government becomes a Leviathan, like the Founding Fathers feared would happen, state and local governments become TOTALLY dependent upon it for survival. If we still lived under our Constitution, the states of LA, MS and AL would have had the ability to handle the situation with minimal or no help from Washington. But we don’t have a Constitution, as it was drafted and ratified, so we are at the mercy of Leviathan.
Good luck to us all!
It's rather rididculous seeing black liberals trying to blame the President, because he's a white Republican. There was a breakdown in communication, and that breakdown was most likely a LOCAL leader issue. One that will be understandable due to the lack of phones working.
Make no doubt, the hurricane is to blame for the disaster - NOTHING ELSE. For YEARS now (before President Bush) people have said if a major hurricane hits new orleans the Levy's would fail, flooding the city.
Also, I find the idea that they somehow created this hurricane the absurd height of paranoia if not insanity.
A discussion about the possible ways to manipulate and control weather on any scale in an unconrolled evironment (not a lab) would probably be nice about now. Up to this point there has only been this banal discussion that jumps from the supposition of rouge "weather warriors" to the supposed links to illuminati or other neffarious elements who are bent on world dominion.
If there are these boogiemen out there with the intent to subjugate us all, then why not use more down-to-earth methods like calling all the mortgages in America and ruining the economy as the trillions of debt owed by the masses would go unpaid? It is absurd to me that Tropospheric Troopers have taken over our weather and are using it to destroy us.
For goodness sake, if the intent was to destroy then why not keep the rain away and dry us out? Better yet, soak the Sahara to make it into the world's breadbasket and leave us to rot and beg for subsistance from the rest of the world...
Like I said in the first sentence, someone show some expertise with weather modification in an non-lab environment, I might start to consider the possiblility that weather control is possible...Then I'll pay whoever to make it rain during the week and sunny on the weekends.
If weather control was possible, then PRESIDENT BUSH would have wanted to destroy this hurricane.
Dr. Hoagland, you have lost a lot of credibility with these last few posts. Your evidence is flimsier than anything that Eric Hufschmid discussed. You lost me on this one. I will read future posts with even more skepticism than I have in the past.
Robert, one thing to add to your comment:
"Robert said...
It's rather rididculous seeing black liberals trying to blame the President, because he's a white Republican. There was a breakdown in communication, and that breakdown was most likely a LOCAL leader issue. One that will be understandable due to the lack of phones working.
Make no doubt, the hurricane is to blame for the disaster - NOTHING ELSE. For YEARS now (before President Bush) people have said if a major hurricane hits new orleans the Levy's would fail, flooding the city.
Also, I find the idea that they somehow created this hurricane the absurd height of paranoia if not insanity.
5/9/05 12:05 PM"
IF PRESIDENT BUSH AND USA wasn't 100% invested into IRAQ
AND HE HADN'T Diverted ALL THE FUNDING FOR REBUILDING THE LEVEES TO THE IRAQ 'supposed war on terror' WOULD IT HAVE COLLAPSED???
WOULD IT???
IRAQ, has some of the PUREST CRUDE OIL Found ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD???
Take for instance Mugabe, a DICTATOR of HIDDEOUS Proportions, the USA sent 20 Troops to errrm do what exactly???
Of course AFRICA IS BEING RAPED FOR ITS OIL TOO eh BP??? and all the other GREASY OILy f[...]ers
IRAQ was being raped in an OIL FOR FOOD PROGRAM!!! that led back to the UNITED NATIONS who has coincidently (Repeating for any asleep people) A FREEMASON TEMPLE (Blue TEMPLE of UNDERSTANDING) and the UN HAS A REPLICA ARK OF THE COVENANT... IF if, if, the UN has these things, which GOD could the UN and FREEMASONARY, ILLUMINATI be worshipping?
I remember that the JEW's LOST THEIR COVENANT POSITION (r.e. ARK OF COVENANT) when they slew a prophet Jesus! So where does that leave them?
And some more things to ponder here:
http://numerology-in-goverment-555.blogspot.com/
six pointed stars and the Square and compass of the FREEMASONS
Six points eh? UN's 60th birthday this year, this is a POLITICAL MESS, the UN is corrupted up to it's Eyebrows, with NEFARIOUS dealings, LEADING right up to it's supposed leader, Kofi Annan, and Koji Annan...
The heads WILL FALL AND ROLL, and the UN will be caught with it's pants down and a large marrow protruding from an unusual spot or maybe it's usual for those people... to shaft countries for their oil... This time it looks as though in my own hypothesis, that it COULD BE CHINA and USA at war over OIL...
My $333.33cents again...
Osiris195 said...
>Richard
>Unfortunately, we have not been living in a Constitutionally based country since the Civil War, when our great President Mr. Lincoln trampled all over it. Your idea about waking people up is a great one, but most people are quite happy with the slumber they are in. Until the American people feel discomfort in their pocketbook, they will continue to be blind to their predicament. Most people think the Government actually has their best interest at heart and would NEVER question what is actually going on. Maybe .001% of the population REALLY knows what dangers we face, on a number of fronts. The conditioning and controlling process that has been utilized for thousands of years by those who control (The Annunaki?) EVERYTHING is in full gear and working like a charm. It will take the likes of a Prophet and widespread disaster (economic and natural) to shake people from their malaise. Only then will the people be ready to hear that they have been screwed by their Government and even then, most will probably WANT MORE GOVERNMENT in the aftermath to make them feel “safe”. The economic collapse is near (thanks to Central Banking) and it looks like the wheels are in motion for the huge climatic earth changes that many (Cayce, RCH, etc.) have been predicting for years. After reading your latest post, it is evident that “We the People” are pawns in an ever expanding war that now includes the weather. Will the American people be ready to hold Government accountable? I am not optimistic. I would feel more optimistic if I knew that some group I trusted had the technology to fight toe-to-toe with those who wish to keep us “in the dark” about our Origins and Destiny. I certainly don’t trust our Government because it is they who have put us where we are. When Government becomes a Leviathan, like the Founding Fathers feared would happen, state and local governments become TOTALLY dependent upon it for survival. If we still lived under our Constitution, the states of LA, MS and AL would have had the ability to handle the situation with minimal or no help from Washington. But we don’t have a Constitution, as it was drafted and ratified, so we are at the mercy of Leviathan.
Good luck to us all!<
OK, let's assume that your are 100% right: that, we have lost essentially all semblance of Constitutional government in the last 100 years .....
Then, why all the effort to maintain the pretense? :)
It turns out that behind the scenes, there has been an enormous fight between the White House and the Governor of Louisiana over who would CONTROL the National Guard in this extraordinary situation. Reports indicate that THIS has been one of the MAIN reasons now for the "slowness" of the Federal response in those first few critical days ....
In fact,the networks have been told by sources in the Governors mansion, confirmed by Mayor Nagin himself, that Friday night -- after the President had left for Washingtton on Air Force One -- a letter arrived from the White House, DEMANDING that the Governor of Louisiana turn over ALL control of the Louisiana National Guard to White House control!
The Governor refused to sign the document.
If these reports are true, then this would represent the first major "mutiny" in the inexorable expansion of federal power in this last one hundred years .... :)
So -- even if you're 100% right in your political assessment -- things may be changing even as we watch ....
So, if these reports are true, it means that "whatever" was planned to take place in New Orleans in the aftermath of Katrina ... MAY have also been diverted.
Stay tuned ....
Robert said...
>Also, I find the idea that they somehow created this hurricane the absurd height of paranoia if not insanity.<
Notice how some folks will REFUSE to face reality ... even when it's introduced as the proverbial "Act of Congress?" :)
Hopefully, Robert, you live far inland ....
Richard,
Have you been able to follow-up / make sense out of the previous "DOUG" post ?
Do you think he was alluding to a West African / oil intrigue origin of hurricane control ?
Richard,
The Secretary of Defense has the authority to Federalize any National Guard outfit deemed nessesary to a particular mission. There would be no need to deliver a letter from the White House demanding anything.
Additionally, the money used to pay for the National Guard comes from the Federal Government. Therefore the Federal Governemnt has the authority to order them into action. No begging required.
Let's not loose sight of objective reality here.
For those folks who have some doubts about the weather control isssue, you could visit www.weatherwars.info and after that, spend some time looking up in the sky and tell us what YOU see. Then, you may find that all this is not a far-fetched as you seem to believe.
General observation ....
Notice how many people have "suddenly" appeared, questioning my "credibility" ... amid the "name calling" ... as soon as we provide OFFICIAL, uncontestable evidence -- Senate Bill 517 -- of ACTIVE Federal movement into the whole "black ops area" of "operational weather control."
H-m-m-m-m-m. :)
DU Duck 345 said...
>Richard,
Have you been able to follow-up / make sense out of the previous "DOUG" post ?
Do you think he was alluding to a West African / oil intrigue origin of hurricane control ?<
Know as much about "Doug's" previous information as you do, Waiting for a further, perhaps less "ambiguous" communique .... :)
Derick said...
>Richard,
The Secretary of Defense has the authority to Federalize any National Guard outfit deemed nessesary to a particular mission. There would be no need to deliver a letter from the White House demanding anything.
>Additionally, the money used to pay for the National Guard comes from the Federal Government. Therefore the Federal Governemnt has the authority to order them into action. No begging required.
>Let's not loose sight of objective reality here.<
Technically, yes, in a "national emergency." This is NOT a "national emergency," it is REGIONAL.
For complex political reasons, it is obvious that the White House does NOT want to simple declare "martial law" and obviate the Constitution. So, they played "chicken" with the Governor ... and she DIDN'T blink.
Now, as of the Homeland Secuirty press conference just concluded, the President has appointed a "military liason" to CO-DIRECT the National Guard rescue operations with General Honorae (sp), who is under the Governor's control.
Mexican standoff.
So, look for more fascinating details of exactly what's going on POLITICALLY over this "natural" regional disaster ....
jasgrave333 said...
"he REPRESENTS THE ELITE of FREEMASONARY..."
No, sorry, but he dosen't represent the elite of freemasonary. (not even close)
The elite are, well, not very public as of yet.
Your misconception is that his position and apparent association to the fraternity makes him elite. (snicker...)
To me, and alot of other folks, he's the guy who shows up at the marathon race, hears the starting gun, runs over to the free t-shirt table, and then promtley gets in his car and leaves. Understand?
Wow, I have seen some real ignorant rants about freemasonary....
Sword
RCH said....
>OK, let's assume that your are 100% right: that, we have lost essentially all semblance of Constitutional government in the last 100 years .....
Then, why all the effort to maintain the pretense? :)
It turns out that behind the scenes, there has been an enormous fight between the White House and the Governor of Louisiana over who would CONTROL the National Guard in this extraordinary situation. Reports indicate that THIS has been one of the MAIN reasons now for the "slowness" of the Federal response in those first few critical days ....
In fact,the networks have been told by sources in the Governors mansion, confirmed by Mayor Nagin himself, that Friday night -- after the President had left for Washingtton on Air Force One -- a letter arrived from the White House, DEMANDING that the Governor of Louisiana turn over ALL control of the Louisiana National Guard to White House control!
The Governor refused to sign the document.
If these reports are true, then this would represent the first major "mutiny" in the inexorable expansion of federal power in this last one hundred years .... :)
So -- even if you're 100% right in your political assessment -- things may be changing even as we watch ....
So, if these reports are true, it means that "whatever" was planned to take place in New Orleans in the aftermath of Katrina ... MAY have also been diverted.
Stay tuned .... <
Richard
I hope you are right about the "Mutiny" and I hope the Governator has the same attitude towards the Federal Leviathan. In 2008 I am going to run for the House of Representatives for the district I live in. Perhaps I will win the Mega Millions Lottery in the meantime, which will give me plenty of money to fund my campaign and TEM. If not, I will have enough to draw attention to the issues that we know are CRUCIAL to our country's and race's survival, not things like gay marriage!
Ok, I get it...I am suppoed to believe that holes and odd shapes in the clouds are evidence of someone manipulating the weather?
Let's be objective here. Weather forms because the Earth cools and heats. If the earth were one giant flat sphere with no water and mountains, and the composition of the mantle and crust was exactly the same across the entire face of the globe there would still exist the base element of weather...wind. Why? Because of the SUN...The sun would be heating one side while the other cooled during the evening. This means that the differences in tempurature would change the density of the atomosphere which would cause the molocules that make the atmoshpere to move...this is called WIND.
Now suppose we put one mountain range on the Earth that reached up to oh...17000 feet. Now the wind would confront that mountain range and have two choices...Go around, or go over. Except it is not that simple, the wind would go around AND over, causing turbulance in the atmoshphere.
Now let's add water. Not a lot, just say...enough to fill the Great lakes. Let's put that water on the non winward side of our mountain range. What will happen? Maybe that water would evaoporate into water moisture that the turbulent wind would carry downwind away from our lake. That water moisture would then move along the surface of our Earth until nightime (no sun) and then the cooling would cause it to condense...FOG!!
Eventually our water would make it back to our Mountains where the wind would be forced to move up/around which again forces some interesting changes...the Adiabatic cooling that would NATURALLY occur because of the changes in air pressure and density as the wind moves up the mountain would create CLOUDS. These clouds would form near the top of our mountain range and get carried over the top by the ever present WINDS. In the process, the fact that the eddys and currents in the wind were disrupted and even created by the mountains would mean that our clouds were shaped by the prevailing currents and forces. This may mean that there would be a non-uniform look to the clouds...as if they were not man-made...
Let's use some of our senses and reason here.
Osiris195 said...
>RCH said....
>>OK, let's assume that your are 100% right: that, we have lost essentially all semblance of Constitutional government in the last 100 years .....
>>Then, why all the effort to maintain the pretense? :)
>>It turns out that behind the scenes, there has been an enormous fight between the White House and the Governor of Louisiana over who would CONTROL the National Guard in this extraordinary situation. Reports indicate that THIS has been one of the MAIN reasons now for the "slowness" of the Federal response in those first few critical days ....
>>In fact,the networks have been told by sources in the Governors mansion, confirmed by Mayor Nagin himself, that Friday night -- after the President had left for Washingtton on Air Force One -- a letter arrived from the White House, DEMANDING that the Governor of Louisiana turn over ALL control of the Louisiana National Guard to White House control!
>>The Governor refused to sign the document.
>>If these reports are true, then this would represent the first major "mutiny" in the inexorable expansion of federal power in this last one hundred years .... :)
>>So -- even if you're 100% right in your political assessment -- things may be changing even as we watch ....
>>So, if these reports are true, it means that "whatever" was planned to take place in New Orleans in the aftermath of Katrina ... MAY have also been diverted.
>>Stay tuned .... <<
>Richard
I hope you are right about the "Mutiny" and I hope the Governator has the same attitude towards the Federal Leviathan. In 2008 I am going to run for the House of Representatives for the district I live in. Perhaps I will win the Mega Millions Lottery in the meantime, which will give me plenty of money to fund my campaign and TEM. If not, I will have enough to draw attention to the issues that we know are CRUCIAL to our country's and race's survival, not things like gay marriage!<
What I want to know is what Governor Haley Barbour did in Mississippi ... when presented with the SAME demands. Since General Honerae (sp) is also in charge of THAT operation, it would appear that Barbour ALSO refused the President's "kind offer."
The reports surrounding Blanco's refusal to cave in to the White House demands also come with rumors of "harsh language," and the President attempting to play "hardball" over this.
In other words, a couple of strong governors seem to have effectively STOPPED the Federal Leviathan in THIS disaster ... so far.
Stay tuned.
And, good luck on your campaign. You'll let us know, of course, at the appropriate time how we can help. :)
Sword, O.K. Your right, I'm not a freemason, and all my observations and insights are based on the random truths I can find...
FreeMasons are NOT open people, therefore a lot of my work is down to the little I can glean and gather from amongst all that NOISE.
Sword again, you seem to be more than in the know... Please please enlighten me, what d'ya mean, he's only a member of the Fraternaty?
You mean, it's like being A Pastor in a congregation, you are Merely representing the 'CHURCH'
I know I'm right on the first front he is a FREEMASON and he is a 33RD degree FREEMASON as is Clinton, George HW BUSH and every president except Lincoln and Kennedy...
The ONLY TWO TO BE ASSASINATED...
Sword spill the beans, to me or offline to me, I want to know loads more, What's really going on behind the FREEMASON scenes, are there any plans to give this Shrub the cold hambone?
Let me know, I have a thirst for this type of knowledge. Why aren't all you younger guys, kicking these t!t's asses (errrm anotomacally put it's not a good image) but you see my point...
IT's dirty dirty, and if you are a member of either the FREEMASON or ILLUMINATI, what's happening behind the scenes, is there outrage?
Are there TWO factions at war inside the FRATERNITIES?
J aka 'Very curious'
Rich Said:
Notice how many people have "suddenly" appeared, questioning my "credibility" ....
Thats beacuse you found the willie wonka golden pass Rich!
Now they know that we (and you know) know that even if the $h!t does hit that fan AND the lychings go all the way to the top of the goverment - hey - its all lee-git! I can see Bush doing his best Fonziee rutein now: ayeeeeeee
Oh, they'll cry in congress - thats a MAD program, we had to build it beacuse the dity Canadians built it first. Look, commitee, look, its all LEGAL. This commitee now draws to a close.. clack...clack...mumble mumble... photo.. photo
Thats right Rich, even if we prove without a shadow of a doubt who "done the dirty deed" - there isnt a damm thing anyone could do about it. (ever)
:-)
It's called CYA ten minutes before DISCLOSER.
"It's called CYA ten minutes before DISCLOSER.
5/9/05 1:23 PM"
The REVELUTION WILL NOT BE TELEVISED...
...However, all the 'STARTLING' coincidences will be recorded...
Staying Stuned...
(long post)
I am disgusted and embarrassed for our country. What has happened here is nothing short of GROSS negligence. Where has all our tax money been going since 9/11? Our government was supposedly building a stronger “homeland security” system, and increasing our ability to respond to large scale disasters such as 9/11 style terrorist attacks. I would assume this same new system could be used to orchestrate recovery from natural disasters as well…if it system actually existed.
What has been exposed this past week, is that there is no homeland security. There is no new and better system. None of us are protected, and none of us can trust that our government will come to our rescue in a time of need. Bureaucracy is the order of the day as usual. I would like to post an excerpt from Brian Williams’ latest post over at msnbc.com. He has been one of the few high profile journalists who have been throwing our government harsh words all week long:
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Brian Williams of MSNBC wrote 9/5/2005:
In a strange way, the most outrageous news pictures of this day may be those of progress: The palettes of food and water that have just been dropped at selected landing zones in the downtown area of New Orleans. It's an outrage because all of those elements existed before people died for lack of them: There was water, there was food, and there were choppers to drop both. Why no one was able to combine them in an air drop is a cruel and criminal mystery of this dark chapter in our recent history. The words "failure of imagination" come to mind. The concept of an air drop of supplies was one we apparently introduced to the director of FEMA during a live interview on Nightly News on Thursday evening. (Watch Brian's interview with FEMA Dir. Michael Brown from Sept. 1.) He responded by saying that he'd been unaware of the thousands gathered at the Convention Center. Later that evening an incredulous Ted Koppel on ABC was left with no choice but to ask if the FEMA director was watching the same television coverage as the rest of the nation.
Complaints are still rampant in New Orleans about a lack of information. It's one of many running themes of the past week: There were no announcements in the Superdome during the storm, none to direct people after the storm, no official word (via bullhorn, leaflets or any other means) during the week-long, on-foot migration (and eventual stagnation) that defined life in the downtown section of the city for those first few days. One can't help but think that a single-engine plane towing a banner over the city would have been immeasurably helpful in both crowd and rumor control.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9216831/#050905
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I suggest reading the whole article, if you have the time.
Back in ’99, during the Y2K talk, I became interested in disaster preparedness at home. I spent most of the year learning about the subject. The thing that struck me most after watching the Katrina non-response was that everything I ever read about “worst case scenarios” came true. I read about exit freeways clogged with traffic and overheated cars, the poor not being able to get out of harms way due to not having money or transportation, FEMA may not be able to help people for several days after the disaster, widespread panic and looting, desperation, suicide, murders, people having to defend their homes and person, disease, lack of food and drinking water, no medicine, martial law, etc. It goes on and on and on. EVERYTHING I ever learned during that year, was played out before my eyes with Katrina. If I can read and learn about these things, why aren’t the “experts” at FEMA able to help prevent them in some way?
Of course much of this is common sense, or at least you would think it was. The problem is that our President and everyone in the chain underneath him have been telling us since 9/11 that our country has NEVER been in a better position to respond to a disaster as it is today. As we can all see now, it’s a lie. I suspected it was, and probably many of the TEM readers have as well, but now the lie has been exposed for the entire world to see. The great USA has failed its own people, on world wide television. We have shown unimaginable weakness, disorder, and failure. On top of everything else, you can’t fault people for thinking race played a role in this, whether it did or not.
Try to imagine, if you will, a time where the US is hit by multiple large (or even medium, whatever that is) scale attacks, or even multiple natural disasters. Maybe a hurricane followed by an earthquake on the west coast. After what we have seen this past week, I can only imagine that everything would crumble down around us. Our government would be frozen in the headlights like a deer on a dark country road. We barely have the resources to respond to one major city, let alone two or 3. What I am saying here is not out of the realm of possibility. In fact, it’s a very easy scenario to imagine.
Where do we go from here? Well to start with, we all need to make sure we are personally prepared to take care of ourselves, and the ones we love. We can no longer afford to trust that FEMA or any other faction of our government will be able to ride in to our rescue. Sure, they may make it there eventually, but will you be able to hang on? Many people in New Orleans didn’t. Some projections are putting the number at or near 10,000. In the weeks to come we will all look on in horror as the true toll of the lack of REASONABLE response is laid out before our very eyes. The government will not be able to talk their way around the pile of bodies left once the flood water is pumped away.
Heads should roll for this. It should start at the top of our government, and trickle down until everyone is held accountable. It will be up to us to REMAIN OUTRAGED by what we have seen. Many politicians are no doubt counting on the short attention span of Americans to allow this whole thing to just blow over. I won’t ever forget it, and I will not trust our government to protect me until I see a REAL homeland security system in action.
(OT but has relevance to the BIG picture):
Looks like the US is slowly becoming a 3rd world basket case both internally and externally.
See (1): http://www.whitehouse.gov/fsbr/international.html
and see (2): http://eaindustry.nic.in/moniout.htm
Singapore
+1.7 May
China
+16.6 May
Thailand
+5.1 Apr
South Korea
+4.3 May
Japan
+0.9 May
Malaysia
+6.8 Apr
India
+8.8 Apr
European Area
+0.9 Apr
United States
+2.7 May
Philippines
+2.8 Mar
Hong Kong
-0.6 Q1
Indonesia
+10.1 Mar
The nett effect of the "outsourcing" phenomena is the loss of cutting edge R&D and high tech jobs for your young graduates and middle-age engineers.
Before anyone starts, just to let you know that my own country in SE Asia faces this problem now, vis-a-vis the growing economic muscle and massive financial infusions into China and India from EU and the US itself!
I restate,
China
+16.6 May
China AND USA and possibly RUSSIA are at WAR
Except, the enemy (BIG BUSINESS and whoever represents those VESTED FINANCIAL INTERESTS) are already in USA, leaking out it's assets, enslaving it's people and then turning off the light switch before fleeing to it's/their comfy little pad in a quiet little spot far far away.
Except they didn't probably figure that the HD would be making a reapearance on Dec 10th 2005... (jasgrave333.blogspot.com)
Does it/they/them know they have little time and are putting into action the 'escape' plan?
Questions QUESTIONS qUESTIONS...
Anonymous said...
>Richard,
>You're putting a lot of stock in the Aaron Broussard account of events; overdramatization for political gain tends to be the norm in today's over-politicized political environment. Also, the media has whipped everyone into a greater frenzy by, for instance, overexaggerating the number of people stranded at the convention center as "many thousands" when the actual total number is 4200. The media also has left the impression that "all of New Orleans" has been totally decimated by flooding, when most of "the greater New Orleans area" is bone dry (go to NOAA.GOV for the actual aftermath photos).
>As a 30 year resident of the city, I can assure you that the corruption, mismanagement, institutional poverty, blatant "reverse racism" towards whites, etc. are and have been very real, almost surrealistic. Check the aftermath of hurricane Betsy in 1965 (the last time this type of flooding occurred); it took over 3 weeks for victims to be rescued from rooftops, so this scenario is not uncommon.
If weather weapons are being used, then, I for one, want to know about it firsthand like everyone else. But, if it is the usual incompetence and arrogance of many people who live in New Orleans AND the local/state then I would like some kind of admission from everyone here.
>Keeping digging into the historic local infrastucture of New Orleans government, Richard.<
" ... Also, the media has whipped everyone into a greater frenzy by, for instance, overexaggerating the number of people stranded at the convention center as "many thousands" when the actual total number is 4200."
I'm curious where you got your number.
I saw the Mayor of New Orleans, this morning on NBC'S Today Show, say live "we successfully evacuated 20,000 people from the Convention center in one day ..."
You say "only 4200 people" were there ....
One of you is wrong.
Thus, perhaps you're also wrong about a lot of OTHER things about New Orleans ... and this crisis.
What's YOUR source?
Shades of Fajullah, IRAQ, anyone?
Well, what can anyone say when this is happening to the "world's last superpower"?
Police: New Orleans 'completely destroyed'
Bush visits Baton Rouge to see devastated region again
Monday, September 5, 2005; Posted: 3:04 p.m. EDT (19:04 GMT)
NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana (CNN) -- Saying the city was "completely destroyed," the New Orleans deputy police chief on Monday urged remaining residents to get out because there is no power, drinkable water or supply of food.
(looks like the Cap'n is spot on...BIG things are happening)
Wayne Davis said...
I looked at the NOAA photos of the ones listed as NO. They all show flooding in all the photos. Some areas were dry, but the photos showed massive flooding. You may want to review the photo captions anonymous.
You have to click on "350 aerial images". There you will see that all of Kenner, Metairie, and "uptown" New Orleans, along with the west bank are bone-dry.
I'm interested, you are Anonymous, can you assist with the infrastructure point? You theoretically should be able to post a little more of the insight into the infrastructure part?
"I live in St Kitt's I'm a TALL WHITE MAN, I have BLONDE HAIR, the LOCAL people are African descent, meaning the VAST majority of people here are black, WE ALL live together, my nickname here is WHOOP WHOOP. IT's not WHITEY, It's not anything other than respectful and loving..."
I agree. It is the same in the majority of areas of the US as well. However, a Tulane University professor in the 1990's did a study of race relations in major US metropolitan areas and found that New Orleans had the greatest percentage concentrations of middle class whites and lower clas blacks. This creates a perception by both races in the city that the whites are privileged and the blacks are underprivileged. Starting in the 1980's, whites had almost totally migrated to parishes (counties) outside of New Orleans (this migration began in the 50's and was completed in the 90's), and at this time the Orleans parish government and New Orleans city government became almost exclusively black. At this time, many of the remaining white residents began to be robbed or shot either right in front of their homes or IN their homes. In addition, the mayor passed a law requiring police officers to live within the confines of the city and thugs then began to vandalize the homes of white police officers resulting in the exodus of many of them. New Orleans began to experience terrible difficulties in attracting and keeping qualified law enforcement officers.
The poorest people that were recently "abandoned" at the dome, overpass, and/or convention center were likely residents of several "projects" or large very well built housing complexes that (my parent's family grew up in these very same projects) have survived since after WWII. They have become very dangerous because of the city's policy since the 1990s of letting drug dealers run rampant in them, and additionally the people who have resided in them for the last 30 years have been the victims/recipients of institutionally funded/encouraged handouts/poverty. These people have grown up for several generations expecting the government to provide for their EVERY need. In New Orleans, it is hard for the other residents to not lump all people of a certain ethnicity into one group because of all of the crimes that have been allowed to happen in and around these projects. Even though 15000 people looks like a large number on television, it is really quite small percentage wise compared to the number of overall residents of the city. It looks impressive in the way a million man march or 200,000 people picketing appear, but it is really quite statistically insignificant. Now, this doesn't mean that every one of these people doesn't deserve to be rescued with all due speed; I'm just rying to give some background into the situation that created what everyone saw on tv; a situation that "outsiders" with no context often greatly misinterpret.
Probably one of the best outcomes of this disaster is the possibility that these housing projects will finally be destroyed because New Orleans will finally have the money and the incentive to do so. However, watch the money! In a state that takes 10 years (no kidding!) to construct one mile of road (because of corruption), it is very hard for me to believe that all of the aid we send will go towards helping the victims. Yes, New Orleans IS that corrupt!
Captain
I'm curious where you got your number.
I saw the Mayor of New Orleans, this morning on NBC'S Today Show, say live "we successfully evacuated 20,000 people from the Convention center in one day ..."
You say "only 4200 people" were there ....
One of you is wrong.
Thus, perhaps you're also wrong about a lot of OTHER things about New Orleans ... and this crisis.
What's YOUR source?
Well, Drudge, Fox, CNN. Also, let's suppose that there were more people; I've been in the convention center many times and I can assure you that I have a hard time believing that they could fit that many people in there at once even if they were all standing staight up shoulder to shoulder. You're right about one thing, however, I wasn't there. But I tend to think that since the media frenzy began before the storm even hit (a storm of Biblical proportions!), they might be tempted to engage in some hyperbole. Incidentally, this is why so many people DID NOT evacuate: so many times the media over saturated New Orleanians with doomsday scenarios after which the storm frizzled out (particularly last year), they lost all ability to take the warnings seriously. Remember, the levees that DID fail were the smaller, newer 15 foot canal (shipping) levees, NOT the much older 25 footers (although you'd never realize this after hearing MEDIA reports! The media = PUBLIC ENEMY #1!! They have all the sophistication of a 4th greater, and ethics worse than stereotypical ambulance chasers!
Captain
BTW, GREAT SITE, Richard; You are an obviously gifted person. Thank you for sharing!
LOL, CNN situation room,
Remember BUSHES AXIS of EVIL???
I Think I know who's at the center of that AXIS now, it's green and shaped like a large hedge... (no offence HD Hedgehog :)
"Probably one of the best outcomes of this disaster is the possibility that these housing projects will finally be destroyed because New Orleans will finally have the money and the incentive to do so. However, watch the money! In a state that takes 10 years (no kidding!) to construct one mile of road (because of corruption), it is very hard for me to believe that all of the aid we send will go towards helping the victims. Yes, New Orleans IS that corrupt!
Captain
5/9/05 1:49 PM"
Thank you for that added insight, my wife was a frequent visitor to New Orleans and had family in Mississippi, who we are locating via other (numerous) family contacts.
I grew up in England, I grew up around and eventually lived in an almost black community, for no other reason, than I am attracted very much to the love, the culture, the music, the spirituality, the peace, and the comradery. Something that I held dear, growing up in a Second world war style family, that was very close and tight knit.
having travelled for the first time to San Jose to comlete a lot of training for a company called 3Com back in the early 90's I was SOOO shocked to see a level of RACISM that I had not thought possible. It disturbed me to the core, and since then I've been very mindful of the USA's policy toward non Caucasian people...
I DETEST ELITISM and CLASSISM. WE ARE ALL HUMAN and we all live or die before OUR GOD. Nothing else should matter, color creed, culture, what does it matter.
IF WE ARE LOVING OUR NEIGHBOURS and LOVING THE TRUE GOD MORE than ANYTHING ELSE, what else is needed?
Truly the LOVE of MONEY IS THE ROOT of ALL EVIL...
These people WERE VICTIMISED BY A CALLOUS RACIST GOVERMENT, yes even labelling CONDI in that same category... If you have read Malcolm X's biography you could understand the corruption that goes into race card plays too...
The message 'WELL WE HAVE BLACK PERSON IN GOVERMENT' doesn't hold any water AT ALL with me...
WHY is CANNABIS ILLEGAL? WHY IS OPIUM ILLEGAL
GO back to 1938 you will find some of the MOST RACIST POLICIES in the world.
If we grew CANNABIS here, we could multiply our income in ST KITT's a 1000 times, because the soil is soo fertile, ITS A RACIST POLICY against the CHINESE and ANY other race than errrm someone who would maybe like a six pointed STAR ON A FLAG...
I don't hold to that, I stand alone in my belief, that before GOD we are individuals and therefore taking away peoples RIGHT to WORSHIP GOD in their own FUNDAMENTAL way is wrong too...
Anyway that's a long rant, thanks for the extra insight...
Living in St Kitt's has more than completed my life, it IS LIFE, the people here have a good handle on life and how to live it peacefully without too much obsession with money... sigh, just dreaming of a world where we ALL JUST love the way we love to play... PEACE
Cory said...
>(long post)
>I am disgusted and embarrassed for our country. What has happened here is nothing short of GROSS negligence. Where has all our tax money been going since 9/11? Our government was supposedly building a stronger “homeland security” system, and increasing our ability to respond to large scale disasters such as 9/11 style terrorist attacks. I would assume this same new system could be used to orchestrate recovery from natural disasters as well…if it system actually existed.
What has been exposed this past week, is that there is no homeland security. There is no new and better system. None of us are protected, and none of us can trust that our government will come to our rescue in a time of need. Bureaucracy is the order of the day as usual. I would like to post an excerpt from Brian Williams’ latest post over at msnbc.com. He has been one of the few high profile journalists who have been throwing our government harsh words all week long:
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Brian Williams of MSNBC wrote 9/5/2005:<
Doesn't it make you wonder just where the money REALLY went? Just a tad ...?
This could be a crucial "turning point" in a long road back. And, rest assured, we will NOT forget ... and with us, neither will the highly significant "Coast" audience ....
This conversation is broken. What happened to the Weather Warriors? The Troposhperic Troopers. The Frosty Fighters? The Stratosphere Soldiers?
Are we to conveniently drop that farce in order to engage in a pointless circular argument about the inept goverment. "They are racist because they didn't respond...no no...they didn't respond because they are racsit...
Derick said...
This conversation is broken. What happened to the Weather Warriors? The Troposhperic Troopers. The Frosty Fighters? The Stratosphere Soldiers?
Are we to conveniently drop that farce in order to engage in a pointless circular argument about the inept goverment. "They are racist because they didn't respond...no no...they didn't respond because they are racsit...
5/9/05 2:09 PM
THEN ADD SOME F[...]ing insight instead of sniping PUH-LEASE???
or can't you?
anonymous,
Those 350 images show no listing for NO other than the four aerial images listed at the bottom of the main page. Do you have a link to another spot I may have missed?
WTF, THE FLAGS ONLY WENT TO HALF MAST AFTER THAT @#$@#$#$@#% CHIEF JUSTICE DIED???!!!???
THAT IS MAKING ME FUME LAVA AGAIN WATCH DIS...
NEFARIOUS FREEMASONS... SWORD any input to that???
Anonymous said...
>>I'm curious where you got your number.
>>I saw the Mayor of New Orleans, this morning on NBC'S Today Show, say live "we successfully evacuated 20,000 people from the Convention center in one day ..."
>>You say "only 4200 people" were there ....
>>One of you is wrong.
>>Thus, perhaps you're also wrong about a lot of OTHER things about New Orleans ... and this crisis.
>>What's YOUR source?<
>Well, Drudge, Fox, CNN. Also, let's suppose that there were more people; I've been in the convention center many times and I can assure you that I have a hard time believing that they could fit that many people in there at once even if they were all standing staight up shoulder to shoulder. You're right about one thing, however, I wasn't there. But I tend to think that since the media frenzy began before the storm even hit (a storm of Biblical proportions!), they might be tempted to engage in some hyperbole. Incidentally, this is why so many people DID NOT evacuate: so many times the media over saturated New Orleanians with doomsday scenarios after which the storm frizzled out (particularly last year), they lost all ability to take the warnings seriously. Remember, the levees that DID fail were the smaller, newer 15 foot canal (shipping) levees, NOT the much older 25 footers (although you'd never realize this after hearing MEDIA reports! The media = PUBLIC ENEMY #1!! They have all the sophistication of a 4th greater, and ethics worse than stereotypical ambulance chasers!
>Captain
>BTW, GREAT SITE, Richard; You are an obviously gifted person. Thank you for sharing!<
Well, that explains THAT ... Fox, eh. Drudge.
And, yes, Katrina was of "biblical proportions" after all ... wasn't it?
In terms of the number of people "in" the Convention Center, that number was OBVIOUSLY counting all the folks who also gathered around the immediate OUTSIDE ... who, at the end, totaled about 20,000 -- according to the duly elected official who had to evacuate every one of them, the Mayor of New Orleans.
And, in terms of the levees that "failed": it will be intertsing to see in the "aftr action analysis" WHY those specific levees "failed."
Perhaps they didn't ....
I have no substance to add to this debate because I have already made my point.
Not one single entry here can point to substantive evidence of weather modification. If there was any evidence I would be the first to acknowledge the concept as feasible.
I am goading this post because I am beginning to think that the vast majority of you only want to sit in your imaginary worlds of conspiracy and boogie men and connect dots that don't exist.
looking at all the areial photos from noaa. what i see is
30% of new orleans north of the river is under water. everything south of the river is dry until you reach the coast. this adds up to about 20% total flood damage in the greater new orleans area.
this does not account for water that has since receeded.
Then don't bother being here, why are you here???
"Derick said...
I have no substance to add to this debate because I have already made my point.
Not one single entry here can point to substantive evidence of weather modification. If there was any evidence I would be the first to acknowledge the concept as feasible.
I am goading this post because I am beginning to think that the vast majority of you only want to sit in your imaginary worlds of conspiracy and boogie men and connect dots that don't exist.
5/9/05 2:20 P"
Are YOU A PSY OPS PLANT OR VEGETABLE???
THINK OPEN YOUR EYES... THIS IS BIGGER THAN YOUR PETTY LITTLE PSY OPS GAME... WE ARE ALL IN THE SH!T THERE ARE NO SURVIVORS, ADD SOME POSITIVE INPUT AND GET TO THE DEBATE, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WORLD WAR THREE!!!
THIS IS NOT A TEST this is SERIOUS...
OIL money and power and all the trappings of EVIL evil, that go with that are about to unleash their heads... ARE YOU IMORTAL AND CAN ESCAPE A DIRECT HIT BY A CAT 5 HURRICANE?
I remember a blogger called MINDTRIGGER who challenged my view that something biblical would not happen by DEC 10th 2005
I'm now 60% there and it's rising, so what do you want to bet?
My $1000 is on the table and if you can prove this theory wrong, jasgrave333.blogspot.com, then it's your's. That's my deal!...
natethegreat2u said...
looking at all the areial photos from noaa. what i see is
30% of new orleans north of the river is under water. everything south of the river is dry until you reach the coast. this adds up to about 20% total flood damage in the greater new orleans area.
this does not account for water that has since receeded.
Thats' ok then people Mayor RAY NAIGIN you can relax, it's been confirmed by this GUY that only a small proportion is damaged. I mean despite all the CNN and MEDIA evidence... What are you blind or another PSY OPS vegetable???
Come on get to grips with reality outside of your imortal biosphere, you cannot escape the HD supreme, and he will check u and ask you some questions... wanna bet me too?
$1000 on the table jasgrave333.blogspot.com
come on make it not so??? betcha can't cos until you can prove that theory wrong, why are you challenging Richard C. Hoaglands theories???
Get a Good name and join the debate, I'm a nice, guy, I would listen and assist if you can work with the crew... We could use all THE HELP we can get, not this storm of snipers that's turned up, cos we've started delving to the truth... Actually I'm glad u all turned up, we know we're on the right path. BUSH IS A SOCIAPATHIC ELITIST WITH A RACIST AGENDA, he's a genocidal EEEJIT... and needs trimming...
This blog as well as blogs preceeding this one and the comments following have become VERY political, and politically motivated... I think.
there is no conspiracy with katrina. and no reason for it. infact if the so called weather manipulators REALLY wanted to hurt this county they would create a drout like the dust bowl of the 30s. this would cause a hundred times more damage to are economy then katrina.
Weather looks good outside to me...If I was a Wascilly Weather Warrior, I would be pounding the entire Southeast coast into oblivion.
Seems to me that if it is war then these "warriors" don't believe in winning.
Looks to me that the money trail is leading to "The Carlyle Group". I've been trying to follow some kind of trail and this thing is convoluted to say the least and at several turns, these guys are fighting off some kind of corruption/backroom-insider trading/conflict of interest type of accusations.
This group has or has had ties with the major military contractors, aerospace R&D depts., Telecom-communications, Oil co's, energy co's...this goes on and on (some big names you all are familiar with!). There are ties not only to Ex Pres Bush Sr. but recently Tony Blair[QinetiQ '04], and other high ranking ex-officials...this thing is Deep, or sure seems that way. In Fact these ties are often controlling shares in the co's that this group purchases. The latest figure I've been able to find is "$300 Bln" that this group is worth. They have also been smoozing the Chinese over none other than Oil.
I'm still trying to verify most of this but isn't to easy, the more I look the more this thing jumps around without any connection from one fact to another.
...so, still trying to get something concrete.
-z
P.S. Derick...you should look up the word "objective"
jasgrave333 20% percent of the greater new orleans area inundated is a MASSIVE amount of dammage not including the wind dammage. get a grip on yourself and relax. i only said was i saw.
REEEEEEALLLLYYYYY
HOW BLIND IS THAT???
"natethegreat2u said...
This blog as well as blogs preceeding this one and the comments following have become VERY political, and politically motivated... I think.
there is no conspiracy with katrina. and no reason for it. infact if the so called weather manipulators REALLY wanted to hurt this county they would create a drout like the dust bowl of the 30s. this would cause a hundred times more damage to are economy then katrina.
5/9/05 2:37 PM"
WHERE DO U LIVE???
CAN YOU ANSWER THAT
Cos I'm thinking that not only are you blind your deaph, THIS IS NOT ABOUT POLITICS
IT'S GONE WAY BEYOND POLITICS, WE ARE TALKING EVIL LIKE 'HITLER' EVIL... NAZI'ISM AGAIN...
I have not VOTED IN MY LIFE, I believe in GODS KINGDOM, therefore, no amount of politics will influence my view...
WHO DID YOU VOTE FOR???
AND WHO ARE YOU
My name is JASON GRAVES
I live in ST KITTs
I am a SENIOR NETWORK ENGINEER
I AM A SCUBA INSTRUCTOR
I AM A WINDSURFER
I also believe in GOD and HIS KINGDOM where are there politics in that???
Peoples Lives/loves/humanity has been destroyed by this 'disaster' so where do you sit Mr PsyOps???
Glad NONE OF YOUR FAMILY WERE AFFECTED???
Because MY WIFES FAMILY WERE!!!
What you gonna say about that???
ARe you some heartless @#$@$ that sits and lurks, because people are expressing the deepest???
You are what you are and until you get a real name and real blog you have NO right to ask me to not label the heartless SOB that caused this chaos to not be called to question...
Zebowho...
http://www.answers.com/objective&r=67
Especially note #2.
J,
"Except they didn't probably figure that the HD would be making a reapearance on Dec 10th 2005."
Haven't read your blog extensively yet, so I'm not sure where you came up with that date. Will have to do so later.
I'm going to posit another potentially cosmic date here: October 1st.
I've seen this date mentioned frequently as a potential pivotal date... for what I'm not sure yet... on several JW/XJW chat boards, based on Biblical chronology... I think maybe it corresponds to a Jewish holiday... and, if I'm not mistaken, is also the date of the OFFICIAL announcement of the WT's 2 new GB members.
Incidentally, that date is EXACTLY 3 AND A HALF YEARS since I moved to the FOUR CORNERS area... SAN JUAN county in particular...
Hmmm...
natethegreat2u said...
jasgrave333 20% percent of the greater new orleans area inundated is a MASSIVE amount of dammage not including the wind dammage. get a grip on yourself and relax. i only said was i saw.
5/9/05 2:43 PM
O.K. Question, WHAT'S YOUR SOURCE other THAN GOOGLE (REMINDING YOU THAT MICROSOFT WERE INTERFEREING WITH ARIEL IMAGES OF AREA 51 RECENTLY???)
IS CNN AND THE LARGER MEDIA CONTEXT WRONG???
LEt me know, I'm into debate...
latter_days_aint said...
J,
"Except they didn't probably figure that the HD would be making a reapearance on Dec 10th 2005."
Haven't read your blog extensively yet, so I'm not sure where you came up with that date. Will have to do so later.
I'm going to posit another potentially cosmic date here: October 1st.
I've seen this date mentioned frequently as a potential pivotal date... for what I'm not sure yet... on several JW/XJW chat boards, based on Biblical chronology... I think maybe it corresponds to a Jewish holiday... and, if I'm not mistaken, is also the date of the OFFICIAL announcement of the WT's 2 new GB members.
Incidentally, that date is EXACTLY 3 AND A HALF YEARS since I moved to the FOUR CORNERS area... SAN JUAN county in particular...
Hmmm...
Missed you bro, where you been???
Yep have a good read, you will enjoy, and look at the dates and times especially, you will get the context imediately... then look at the pic again, you will understand, remember, that the WORD is the WORD 333 is the word, gotcha back, fathers house has many abodes, TSUNAMI party is here, make plans brother, we all gotta stand strong, these are tumultuous times...
J aka '3 3 3'
Derick said...
>I have no substance to add to this debate because I have already made my point.
>Not one single entry here can point to substantive evidence of weather modification. If there was any evidence I would be the first to acknowledge the concept as feasible.
>I am goading this post because I am beginning to think that the vast majority of you only want to sit in your imaginary worlds of conspiracy and boogie men and connect dots that don't exist.<
Have you read any of our previous analysis of the "anomalous" hurricanes of last year?
http://www.enterprisemission.com/hyper1.html
Or, Scott Steven's PROFESSIONAL analysis -- he's a registered meteorologist, with a major television affiliate in eastern Idaho -- of the last 30 YEARS of "anomalous" weather (his phrase) ...?
Here's his Katrina page:
http://www.weatherwars.info/katrina.htm
That should get you started .... :)
>Derick said...
Zebowho...
http://www.answers.com/objective&r=67
Especially note #2.<
So again I ask "WHERE'S YOUR PROOF to the CONTRARY" ....silence!
Jas, not worth the effort bro...as far as these guys are concerned "Whats the point if your eyes are Closed!"
-z
Z, thanks for the Wooosahhh bro...
Bro, I'm incensed, we are talking about PEOPLE and my wifes family and people who desperately need help were victimised by a heartless SOB, that could use l[...]g right now... I'm soo f[...]g angry it goes beyond words, this is crazy, these people have no jobs, nothing, I grew up in these communities, and know hardship, I went hungry from time to time, it hurts it's painful to be poor, but believe me, I will not be silenced, when it comes to peoples lives and loves and being sooo lost...
My heart is breaking for these people, I can't watch some media news, the tears well up... These people are PEOPLE and SHOULD BE TREATED HUMANELY and with LOVE...
I can't type anymore right now, it's killing me, that a f[...]g eeefit who has NO CLU ABOUT REAL LIFE, COULD BE PLAYING GOLF AND STRUMMING A GUITAR WHEN ALL THESE PEOPLE WERE SUFFERING...GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Jas, no prob...My heart goes out to everyone in that whole area...it's just horrible and I hope you guys can hear from your wife's family soon too, I don't have family there and I just can't imagine having that to deal with.
-z
natethegreat2u said...
>This blog as well as blogs preceeding this one and the comments following have become VERY political, and politically motivated... I think.
>there is no conspiracy with katrina. and no reason for it. infact if the so called weather manipulators REALLY wanted to hurt this county they would create a drout like the dust bowl of the 30s. this would cause a hundred times more damage to are economy then katrina.<
Of course, the conversation and information exchange is "political." what do YOU think runs the world ...? :)
On specifics: you seem to believe that you can ferret out the agenda of those behind Katrina by a "reductionist" hyothesis:
"... if the so called weather manipulators REALLY wanted to hurt this county they would create a drout like the dust bowl of the 30s ...."
Who's says that "hurting the United States" is their objective. or killing it .. .all at once?
Who's "they?" What if this was not done by an "external" enemy ... but one from WITHIN? What would THEIR objective be ... if they exist? Diversion ...? Distraction ...?
Demonstrating to the whole astonished world that the USA is actually as mortal and vulnerable as ANY OTHER NATION?
In other words: what if the objective is/was to demonstrate that "the emperor truly has no clothes ...?"
OK, those are only a few of the HUNDREDS of potential, plausible scenarios one can construct -- given the existence of such secret technology ... UNKNOWN to all the rest of us ....
The old song "Killing me slowly" comes to mind ....
Richard C. Hoagland said...
Osiris195 said...
>Richard
>Unfortunately, we have not been living in a Constitutionally based country since the Civil War, when our great President Mr. Lincoln trampled all over it. Your idea about waking people up is a great one, but most people are quite happy with the slumber they are in. Until the American people feel discomfort in their pocketbook, they will continue to be blind to their predicament. Most people think the Government actually has their best interest at heart and would NEVER question what is actually going on. Maybe .001% of the population REALLY knows what dangers we face, on a number of fronts. The conditioning and controlling process that has been utilized for thousands of years by those who control (The Annunaki?) EVERYTHING is in full gear and working like a charm. It will take the likes of a Prophet and widespread disaster (economic and natural) to shake people from their malaise. Only then will the people be ready to hear that they have been screwed by their Government and even then, most will probably WANT MORE GOVERNMENT in the aftermath to make them feel “safe”. The economic collapse is near (thanks to Central Banking) and it looks like the wheels are in motion for the huge climatic earth changes that many (Cayce, RCH, etc.) have been predicting for years. After reading your latest post, it is evident that “We the People” are pawns in an ever expanding war that now includes the weather. Will the American people be ready to hold Government accountable? I am not optimistic. I would feel more optimistic if I knew that some group I trusted had the technology to fight toe-to-toe with those who wish to keep us “in the dark” about our Origins and Destiny. I certainly don’t trust our Government because it is they who have put us where we are. When Government becomes a Leviathan, like the Founding Fathers feared would happen, state and local governments become TOTALLY dependent upon it for survival. If we still lived under our Constitution, the states of LA, MS and AL would have had the ability to handle the situation with minimal or no help from Washington. But we don’t have a Constitution, as it was drafted and ratified, so we are at the mercy of Leviathan.
Good luck to us all!<
OK, let's assume that your are 100% right: that, we have lost essentially all semblance of Constitutional government in the last 100 years .....
Then, why all the effort to maintain the pretense? :)
It turns out that behind the scenes, there has been an enormous fight between the White House and the Governor of Louisiana over who would CONTROL the National Guard in this extraordinary situation. Reports indicate that THIS has been one of the MAIN reasons now for the "slowness" of the Federal response in those first few critical days ....
In fact,the networks have been told by sources in the Governors mansion, confirmed by Mayor Nagin himself, that Friday night -- after the President had left for Washingtton on Air Force One -- a letter arrived from the White House, DEMANDING that the Governor of Louisiana turn over ALL control of the Louisiana National Guard to White House control!
The Governor refused to sign the document.
If these reports are true, then this would represent the first major "mutiny" in the inexorable expansion of federal power in this last one hundred years .... :)
So -- even if you're 100% right in your political assessment -- things may be changing even as we watch ....
So, if these reports are true, it means that "whatever" was planned to take place in New Orleans in the aftermath of Katrina ... MAY have also been diverted.
Stay tuned ....
Well, it's not the FIRST mutiny against the Feds in their grab for control over a State's right to police itself. Just days before hurricane Katrina landed on the shores of the Gulf States, "A federal judge ruled on Friday that the Pentagon had broken the law in seeking to close down the 111th Fighter Wing of the Pennsylvania Air National Guard without first obtaining the governor's approval." A copy of the full article is located here and a similar one here.
Also, earlier this year, certain Congressmen tried to enact a bill that would repeal the 22nd Amendment - the one that sets a term limit on the office of the President! This is a very important bill, yet I never saw or heard anything about it in the media (not really surprised about that, though...). This means that Bush - or anyone else, for that matter - could be re-elected (sic) as many times as the Electoral College wishes. To quote Homer Simpson: "DOH!" Copy of the resolution is here and it's possible consequences here.
So, we have proof in the form of a LEGAL DISPUTE settled in the courts that our Federal government.. elected BY US... wants to impede on our CONSTITUTIONALLY-GIVEN States' right to police itself. We also have proof in the form of a Congressional Bill to remove restrictions on a President's term in office - basically letting the same man/men stay in power a very long time. There, gentlemen, is some proof that (to paraphrase the Bard) there is "something rotten in the District of Columbia."
J,
"Missed you bro, where you been???"
Never left! ;)
Haven't had much of relevance to post lately. Been busy with work & family stuff. And Bible study... study... study... Seeing things in a totally different light now. Trying to formulate conclusions. Ruminating... formulating... hesitating... speculating... 4 things I tend to do more than just about anything else anymore.
Later ;)
Richard,
I have read the postings and articles on EM almost daily for several years now and I have yet to be convinced of anything that cannot be shown to be true with OBJECTIVE evidences. So far you are expecting me to believe your theories based on your word and as evidences you point me to other theories postulated by other people who can provide no rational, objective evidences for what they are saying either.
This post about Katrina and possible weather manipulation by unknown and unseen forces doesn't seem to serve the same purposes as your postings about NASA and the secret doings of the few. I think that you natrually draw people to your site that are looking for explanations to the things they don't want to understand or have thrown away there reasoning minds to pursue the ethreal tendrils of things that are not real.
The postings about Iapetus and Cydonia facinate me because there at least are photgraphic evidences that show real anomolous structures that you hope to provide answers to. These kind of posts are why I keep coming back.
Anyway...I am going to stop now... I think I have stirred the pot and helped to show certain elements for what they are...besides, I have to go to sleep soon...
I am Christian. I make no apologies. I am NOT evangelical. I want truth, and I don’t care where or from whom I get it. The spin masters say “But what is TRUTH?”. I’ll know it when I see or hear it. You may not believe as I do. I don’t care. If you have a good heart and love truth you are close enough for me. We as Americans should lead, follow, or get out of the way. Sometimes I lead. Sometimes I follow. In-between times I get out of the way.
Anonymous said ...this is the end
So what. I’m ready for the end, the middle, or what ever comes next.
>It is NOT the federal Gov.’s job to be the first responder.
The President’s biggest power has always been his bully pulpit. He could have made the Governor and the Mayor of New Orleans get out of the way any time He wanted. It was his job to know that the port and the river are more important to the national security of the nation than “law” or politics.
During Vietnam, LBJ sent a colonel to the CIA everyday to get the reports on how the war was going. Everyday the CIA would have two piles of paper ready. One had all the good news and one had all the bad news. The colonel would come in, take the pile of good news and leave. After months of this the officer at the desk asked “Why do you keep leaving the bad news reports?”. The colonel said ”Because the President doesn’t like bad news.”
This really happened! The President had, by his own choice, surrounded himself with people that would only tell him what he wanted to hear.
only the governor had the power to call them out - see posse comitatas act
Jesus said law condemns all. I say the law does not protect us, or save us, it is only a good intention. What protects us and saves us is good people doing what ever they have to do. Joh 15:13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. I say greater love hath no man than a man that lays down his life for the SOB that lives next door, that hates his guts for his political views.
“The state and local government was full of political appointments.” The head of FEMA was a “political appointment”.
Technology that can direct the path of storms IS CREDIBLE. I don’t know if it exist or was used. We need to KNOW, not guess. We have allowed the ownership of major news agencies to be concentrated in the hands of a few. This makes it easy to subvert the truth. Unregulated capitalism is just as big a disaster as communism! The markets don’t “take care of themselves”. Democracy is not God’s gift to the world! It fails just like every other form of government when the people let it fail.
Ok, what can we do about it?
1. Fight being managed and manipulated by religious leaders that sell us out for political goals. Abortion, stemcells, and gay marriage are bs issues. If abortion is made illegal the same people that lead the charge to make it that way will be the leaders of the movement to restore it just like Prohibition of the 1930’s. Stemcells, well other countries will eat our lunch in this area so it doesn’t matter. Gay marriage, this issue was lost years ago. When a homosexual can jump out of his foxhole in the fog of war and run through the bullets and save the life of a heterosexual, wounded on the battlefield do you think that man or his family cares if his savior marries another man?
2. Fight being sold out by scientist. We live in a world where you can have any “scientific truth” you can afford. A big scandal evolving the suffering and death of many people because of a family of drugs is coming, nothing like we have ever seen before. The scientific community needs to police not sensor. When the families of scientists are suffering and dying they will.
3. Oddly enough, tell our politicians its ok to “sell us out”. The problem lately has been that we have been given away. They need to get a fair price for us.
Keep writing. Keep talking. Keep praying. Keep meditating if that’s what you do. Never give up. Never surrender. All the kabols will fail. If they kill you, you will become more powerful than they can possibly imagine. Our destiny is not in our stars, it is in our hearts. It always was.
Richard C. Hoagland said...
natethegreat2u said...
>>This blog as well as blogs preceeding this one and the comments following have become VERY political, and politically motivated... I think.
>>there is no conspiracy with katrina. and no reason for it. infact if the so called weather manipulators REALLY wanted to hurt this county they would create a drout like the dust bowl of the 30s. this would cause a hundred times more damage to are economy then katrina.<
>Of course, the conversation and information exchange is "political." what do YOU think runs the world ...? :)
>On specifics: you seem to believe that you can ferret out the agenda of those behind Katrina by a "reductionist" hyothesis:
>"... if the so called weather manipulators REALLY wanted to hurt this county they would create a drout like the dust bowl of the 30s ...."
>Who's says that "hurting the United States" is their objective. or killing it .. .all at once?
>Who's "they?" What if this was not done by an "external" enemy ... but one from WITHIN? What would THEIR objective be ... if they exist? Diversion ...? Distraction ...?
>Demonstrating to the whole astonished world that the USA is actually as mortal and vulnerable as ANY OTHER NATION?
>In other words: what if the objective is/was to demonstrate that "the emperor truly has no clothes ...?"
>OK, those are only a few of the HUNDREDS of potential, plausible scenarios one can construct -- given the existence of such secret technology ... UNKNOWN to all the rest of us ....
>The old song "Killing me slowly" comes to mind ...
Are you referring to "Killing Me Softly"?
and to quote an incredibly wise and funny friend of mine: "Just because I'm not paranoid does NOT mean "They" are NOT out to get me!" :D
Wayne Davis said...
anonymous,
Those 350 images show no listing for NO other than the four aerial images listed at the bottom of the main page. Do you have a link to another spot I may have missed?
I had a problem getting into the "350 images" link last night, but this morning it worked. It will take you to a drawing of a map of southeast LA which has several black squares highlighting different parts of the region; click on a few of them. They will take you to closer views, etc...
Jason,
Two things: Firstly, the background that I gave you concerning the history of racial tensions in NO FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, was in no way intended to be a put down to any particular race; I just tried to give as objective of an assessment that I could FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. The overwhelming people in NO of all races are WONDERFUL, LOVING, GIVING people who deserve the best our country can give them. My frustration is generally reserved for corrupt governments (especially locals), the media, & people in society who give NOTHING in return to their neighbors.
Secondly, the images that I based my judgement on are from NOAA.GOV
I know MANY people (and their houses) in the greater NO area, so I was able to locate, via the satellite imagery, their individual houses and identify the specific damage to their homes.
Thanks for all your imput,
Captain
Try this link:
http://ngs.woc.noaa.gov/katrina/KATRINA0000.HTM
Captain
I still don't understand why news reporters were allowed in and the Red Cross and other groups who could have given aid weren't. Many people need to be held accountable for this.
Lesley said...
I still don't understand why news reporters were allowed in and the Red Cross and other groups who could have given aid weren't. Many people need to be held accountable for this.
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Because the chaos in New Orleans was an orchestrated psy-op designed by the Owls to gauge the publics reaction to the unfolding tragedy.
As I pointed out on the previous blog;
"The government's deliberately slow reaction to the disaster in New Orleans is a social engineering psychological experiment which is designed to test the physical and mental resiliency of people in a crisis so the government can later use this event as a socio-psychological model to calculate public reaction to future terror events and disasters."
The "embedded" reporters were put there on purpose to broadcast those images to the world for the following reasons;
1. Stir up public distrust in the legitimacy of constitutional U.S. Government.
2. Create racial division and balkanization within America in order to cause the break-up of the U.S.
3. Make the Globalist controlled U.N. and the E.U. look like the good cop while the Globalist controlled portions of the U.S. government(FEMA, Homeland Security, Bush Administration) plays the bad cop.
In other words, the slow response to the Katrina aftermath was a Hegelian Dialectic "Problem/Reaction/Solution"(Thesis/AntiThesis/Synthesis) event that Alex Jones frequently points out his show;
PROBLEM: Create chaos after a disaster to gauge the reaction of the public and the disaster survivors.
REACTION: People become outraged and demand something be done.
SOLUTION: More bureaucratic "big government", "martial law" and "police state control grids" are provided as the solution.
To me it only points out that the big government we have now does not work, it doesn't say to me that we need a bigger government.
To Richard:
Update on Caltech Archives-- Talked to my savvy Ref. Librarian yesterday at work, and she gave me her input on querying them. However, when we pulled up the pertinent Archives page to see where the query should go, we found an awful lot of strings attached to viewing archived documents, especially if one is not in any way associated with Caltech. For starters, they want one to write them a detailed explanatory letter, showing why 'secondary sources' won't do, and 'explaining in full' one's reasons for wishing to consult archival material. Furthermore, if the request to view is approved, one then has to sign 'agreement papers' saying that one will not 'cite, quote, or otherwise mention' what has been obtained without written permission from the Caltech Archives. So a casual, curiosity-driven request would be a non-starter, I think, as would the 'friend-of-a-friend' ploy I had in mind. Since I am not actually writing a book or anything-- no manuscript or publishing contacts to show-- I am probably not going to be able to wedge my foot in the door. However, there is still a 'long-shot' I am going to try via a person I know who has herself written three books, and who may also have a personal interest in Hale's 'little man', once I tell her the story.
I am also slugging my way through the Levenda Book 1, and I am unhappy to say that about half of the stuff on Jack Parsons he has assembled is taken from the 'Sex and Rockets' bio, with all its attendant first source documentation problems. The other half he has derived from Thelemic Lodge documents, which *can* be checked, and so I am easier-in-mind about those cites/quotes. He also has repeated the fiction that Parsons had never met Marjorie Cameron (the supposed flesh-and-blood 'answer' to his call for a 'female Air elemental' for the Babalon Working) before she showed up on his doorstep after he and L. Ron Hubbard 'worked the Call'. This is disputed by several other sources, several of which are Thelemic, which say that Parsons and Cameron had met previously, and they are able to provide dates and circumstances to prove that she and Jack had been casual aquaintances before Parsons' Air-summoning ritual. So, while Levenda makes interesting connections in re: Parsons and some other folks, he's basing his speculations on more non-documented speculations in some instances. To my mind, there are also some other problems with Levenda's first volume of 'Sinister Forces', not the least of which is what I take his underlying premise to be, but he is a provoking read, and is providing me with some interesting sources for certain odd juxtapositions of people and events, which is very valuable.
To whoever asked about 'when were crop circles first reported'--
Thanks to Brit researchers who have *great* access to archives, the oldest reported crop formations in Britain go back to the 1600's. They were called 'Mowing Devils', because in the mindset of the time, the shaped flattening of the crop was considered to be the literal handiwork of 'Satan's imps'. Circular and ringed-circular shapes were described, so we now know that circles go back a long, long way in British history, and were both noted and 'recorded for posterity' in the written records. Some researchers are now wondering if such things as the 'Celtic Cross' design might not have had their origins in crop formations, and that great mounds like Silbury Hill might have been made in part so as to provide a vantage-point for seeing the formations. Also of interest are some recently noted ancient Chinese diagrams of circular designs which look very similar (and in some cases exactly identical) to modern, more complex British crop formations. These seem to indicate that the formations have been a world-wide phenomenon for a very long time, and thus pre-date the 'current government black-ops' origin-theories for crop formations by several hundred-- and in a couple of cases, a few thousand-- years.
Another thing of interest with regard to British crop formations is that the 'Ball Of Light' phenomenon associated with modern crop circles also is remarked upon rather far back in the British historical record. Silbury Hill was known as 'The Place of the Shining Ones', and another hill was just called outright by the name 'Golden Ball Hill', because of frequent sightings of golden-colored BOLs near it. So the BOLs, like the crop formations themselves, are a long-term phenomenon, and *did not* 'just start up' in the late 50's/early 60's, along with the modern formations.
Live Long and Probe (for First Sources),
T'zemt
lesley said...
To me it only points out that the big government we have now does not work, it doesn't say to me that we need a bigger government.
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The Globalists will promote big government as the solution to this and try to sell this to the American public through the mass media.
Communications were cut-off......
news organizations could still get their message out...
Is there a contradiction here?
Did "they" want the media to report the live action but the rescue teams not to communicate?
In fact,the networks have been told by sources in the Governors mansion, confirmed by Mayor Nagin himself, that Friday night -- after the President had left for Washingtton on Air Force One -- a letter arrived from the White House, DEMANDING that the Governor of Louisiana turn over ALL control of the Louisiana National Guard to White House control!
If its true, the Governor should have signed it. After Kennedy was shot, LBJ called person after person in government. His message was simple, you may not like me but I'm "all the president you have." Bush is the President we deserve because we elected him. He is also "all the president we got".
The situation is so bad that only the president can manage it. We can only hope that He will redeem himself by doing a good job from here on. All the talk about "big government", "martial law", and "police state" just don't matter when you can only go one way you go that way. I don't like it, but I'm not stupid. The time for change will come later, if there is a later.
Ultimately it is the American people who will be held responsible for the lack of action during this crisis and i fear the price will be high. By our actions and inactions, we've allowed our government to denegrate to what we saw this last week.
We've ceded more and more of our freedoms in the name of safety and comfort. Give us our crime and reality shows, our drive-thru diet and delude us into believing what's being done for us is in our best interest.
This is not a bash Bush but rather a call for all Americans to re-examine those we put into any public office from Dog Catcher to The White House. We must go beyond party loyalties and tickets. It's time we demand those placed into laedership roles be accountable.
Career government workers must also be held to the same standards. Decades of subterfuge and blatant insubordination by government workers must come to a stop.
A clear message must be sent that it is "Our way or the Highway." No more Ted Kennedy/Strom Thurman free rides where politicians spend the bulk of their adult lives feeding from the public trough without any real accountability. Every American citizen must from now on, VOTE. Vote your conscience, not your party.
One question: Where is Dick Cheney?
lesley said
>To me it only points out that the big government we have now does not work, it doesn't say to me that we need a bigger government.
You are right. We need "A" students that care leading. The bureaucracy will follow any leader.
Thought everybody might enjoy this little gem from the Newsmax.com website--
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Friday, Sept. 2, 2005 11:00 a.m. EDT
Former CIA Director Tenet Threatens Disclosures?
Former CIA director George Tenet, said to be the target of what the Washington Times called "a scathing report by Inspector General John Helgerson” - may go public with embarrassing disclosures about the Bush administration and its actions leading up to Sept. 11, 2001.
The CIA report, prepared as the result of a 17-month investigation by a team of 11 CIA officials, blames Tenet and several top CIA officials for its failure pre-9/11 to deal with al-Qaida.
But former Reagan White House aide and intelligence expert John B. Roberts II, quoting an anonymous source close to Tenet, wrote in Thursday's Washington Times that the former chief spook has no intention of taking it lying down.
The report, delivered to Congress this week, recommends punitive sanctions against Tenet, former Deputy Director of Operations James L. Pavitt and former counter-terrorist center head J. Cofer Black.
Roberts writes, "George Tenet is not going to let himself become the fall guy for the September 11th intelligence failures, according to a former intelligence officer and a source friendly to Mr. Tenet.”
In retaliation, Roberts says that Tenet may turn the tables and put the blame on President Bush.
Tenet, he claims, has already written a fiery, 20-page, "tightly knitted rebuttal” to the Inspector General's report. But Tenet's response has been marked "classified," in contrast to usual CIA practice. Also unavailable to the public is the report itself.
Roberts says Tenet's decision to strike back could be very bad news for the President.
Wrote Roberts, "Mr. Tenet's decision to defend himself against the charges in the report poses a potential crisis for the White House.
"According to a former clandestine services officer, the former CIA director turned down a publisher's $4.5 million book offer because he didn't want to embarrass the White House by rehashing the failure to prevent September 11 and the flawed intelligence on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction.”
Quoting a "knowledgeable source,” Roberts wrote that Tenet "had a ‘wink and a nod’ understanding with the White House that he wouldn't be scapegoated for intelligence failings.”
Roberts claims a "deal" was made between Tenet and Bush, one that was sealed with the President’s award of the Presidential Freedom Medal to the former CIA head.
In his rebuttal, Tenet, Roberts warns, "treads perilously close to affirming the account of Richard Clarke, the former NSC terrorism official who claimed the Bush administration's had delayed adopting a strategy against al-Qaida."
Current CIA Director Porter Goss is between a rock and a hard place, according to Roberts, who explains that Goss will be criticized for covering up if he does nothing. But if he follows the IG's recommendation to convene formal hearings as a prelude to sanctions, Tenet himself may go public to defend his reputation by damaging the President and his administration.
Roberts concludes: "The $4.5 million book offer may soon be back on the table, and this time Mr. Tenet might take it.”
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So I think the important thing is that everyone continues to 'full-press' on HD Weather-weapons and FEMA criminality in the N.O. Hurricane Mass-Murders, because 'all is not going well' on several other fronts for the current White House Oil-Bloated-Chigger Infestation. [See also Citizenspook's explication of the Treason laws (which are *very* plain about when the death penalty is to be applied), and the efforts of the folks at Verified Voting, which are starting to pay off in re: getting states to drop Diebold and their 'electronic election-rigging'-- oops! ...I meant to say, voting-- machines.]
Live Long and Pass (the Electoral Insecticide),
T'zemt
Hear, Hear!! Bubba Hyde,....
This is the only thing I'm thinking as of now....
None of us will really figure this out until we, as american People DEMAND full accountability of the people WE put into office.
What frightens me though, is the thought that our officials are not "really the ones in control
look guys their just against us this admin, wheres chreney in all this? they want to destroy the gulf redevelop it make $$$ kill some americans remember more americans died on this presidents watch then any othe president. I live in florida, that hurricane turned at the last moment here by me too then made a weird turn south around FL thru the key and up last year irene made a 360 turn and hit within 2 miles of frances they can control th eweather!!!
Dr. Hoagland,
Not to change the subject of this wonderful blog at all, but I have been excitedly waiting for part 7 post on the satelite Iapetus on your web page Enterprise Mission.
Have you any new information?
jojens@svwy.net
Arrrrgggghhhh! The Weather Modificaton Act is intended to find ways to DISSIPATE threatening systems -- read the Bill, Richard! Don't just publish hyperdimensional rants that take real world developments with totally logical explanations and distrot them to fit your warped model of the universe!
If you knew one thing about what really goes on in BLACK projects, you'd know that a select Congressional committee works with the Executive Branch to manage a now completely public fund (as far as the total amount is concerned) for 'Beyond Top Secret' research. Agencies receiving the funds included the DOD, CIA, NSA, NRO and rarely any others. IF Iand only if) there is indeed a viable Wx mod program, it is BLACK. It never would see the light of day as the cited Wx Mod Act you cite so plainly does. The powers that be would NEVER let a white world act potentially reveal a BLACK project! It will not happen -- never has, never will.
And anyone involved in research and development can tell you that $10M, even $100M won't go anywhere near getting you near to approaching ooperational reality. The Manhatten Project cost over $1B in todays dollars -- Based upon your rants here, one must conclude that Hyper-D weather vortex steering must be so simple all one has to do is mentally focus on the gods of Atlantis, channel their energy, look at a local map and grab a joystick off the X-Box to generate a tropical storm, gin it up to catagory 5, and steer it to pinpoint accuracy!!!!!
Might I suggest a vacation, Richard! And when you finally take it, take some time to get your facts staight on R&D budgeting, BLACK programs and Congressional oversight! A refresher course on forming logical conclusions would also serve you well.
You are pleading an arguement totally lacking logical premeses and conclusions, ignoring the scientific methods for dissent, and employing tabloid sensationalism/journalism. There is NO POWER on thie Earth that can do what you are claiming. Not YET! This tremendous energy is the result of global warming (cyclic and natural combined with manmade emissions) powering horrific natural engines of destruction. Nothing more. You'd be better off spending your time halting global warming than trying to destroy the faith of the masses in their representative form of government.
lesley
I've lived through rep and dem, liberal and conservative, the government grew through all of them The liberal Clintons left us with surplus and the conservative Bushs will leave us with debt. Don't get too excited about what they say. They both will say anything. I was for Nixon and Carter, I was for Bush jr. and Kerry. We had "Grid lock" when the government was split and I thought that was bad. After living through the dem's having everything and the rep's having everything I long for "Grid lock" again. Not much got done, it was wonderful.
Richard,
I had to stop mid post to go to work, but ...
"A Chief Executive of the First tier of your "disaster responsibility tree" -- the LOCAL Parish president -- reports on National Television that FEMA (an arm of the LAST tier, the Federal Government) STOPPED his active efforts to fulfill his Constitutional responsibility at every turn ... from fuel ... to water ... to crucial communciations ...."
oh poppy cock there's so much disinfo and politics being played that to listen to some low ranking county (democrat) official is well ... besides if the Governor had not done any of the things which fell under her pervue (which she totally failed to do - like activate the national guard under her command) - FEMA may well have been unable legally to do anything ... while Blanco sat idlly wringing her hands - except for photo ops where she moaned about this and that.
So I'm not buying into this - and some Senate Bill which may or may not even be heard (get out of committe), let alone passed in the House and signed by President Bush is hardly a smoking gun and is silly to get worked up about. Cloud seeding is also 'weather-modification.'
Besides who steered the typhoon into China yesterday displacing one million people? Where does this end?
Anonymous said....
>You'd (RCH) be better off spending your time halting global warming than trying to destroy the faith of the masses in their representative form of government.<
I don't need RCH to destroy my faith in our Government, they have done that on their own. When one starts to take an objective look at what our "representative form of government" has given us, one has to conclude that unless WE THE PEOPLE do something drastic to halt its invasion into our lives and liberties, WE THE PEOPLE will be destined to live in the 4th Reich!
Does anyone know of a good online TV station? Not just clips of news reports, a real station.
Along the same lines as FEMA rejecting the trucks filled with water that were sent by Walmart is this story. How could FEMA reject Chicago's offer of help?
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Chicago Sun Times
Daley 'shocked' as feds reject aid
September 3, 2005
BY STEPHANIE ZIMMERMANN AND SCOTT FORNEK Staff Reporters
A visibly angry Mayor Daley said the city had offered emergency, medical and technical help to the federal government as early as Sunday to assist people in the areas stricken by Hurricane Katrina, but as of Friday, the only things the feds said they wanted was a single tank truck.
That truck, which the Federal Emergency Management Agency requested to support an Illinois-based medical team, was en route Friday.
"We are ready to provide more help than they have requested. We are just waiting for their call," said Daley, adding that he was "shocked" that no one seemed to want the help.
Daley said the city offered 36 members of the firefighters' technical rescue teams, eight emergency medical technicians, search-and-rescue equipment, more than 100 police officers as well as police vehicles and two boats, 29 clinical and 117 non-clinical health workers, a mobile clinic and eight trained personnel, 140 Streets and Sanitation workers and 29 trucks, plus other supplies. City personnel are willing to operate self-sufficiently and would not depend on local authorities for food, water, shelter and other supplies, he said.
Contributing: Andrew Herrmann, Dave Newbart
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OSIRIS 195 said:
"I don't need RCH to destroy my faith in our Government, they have done that on their own. When one starts to take an objective look at what our "representative form of government" has given us, one has to conclude that unless WE THE PEOPLE do something drastic to halt its invasion into our lives and liberties, WE THE PEOPLE will be destined to live in the 4th Reich!"
Well, to quote another dead white guy, the late, great Sir Winston Churchill: "It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried."
4th Reich! I guess that's why Cuban's float on plywood rafts and Mexicans risk their lives crossing the Rio Grande, climbing fences, crawling through dangerous tunnels or riding (packed like sardines) in trucks, vans and railroad cars to flock by the millions each year into such a repressive regime! WHAT! These people are suicidal?
Move to France then -- pledge allegience to China, or move to Canada! When was the last time you voted -- if you ever have? When was the last time you attended a town coucil meeting, wrote a letter to the editor, or volunteered at your local school or church or soup kitchen? Grow up, get a job, pay taxes and contribute to the human family -- stop your hateful, inciteful and radically psychotic ranting and join the human race!!!!!
In times of crisis, EVERYONE has a story, an opinion, a conspiracy theory, a "shaking a fist in the air" in frustration, tears, etc...
This was a major, NATURAL disaster, the response wasn't perfect for MANY reasons. We are very fortunate that the casualties were so LIGHT.
The media is the true villain. They are the ones profiting off of human misery while at the same time appearing to be objective, compassionate, earnest. They hype and stir and incense, and offer no real solutions. They whip everyone into a frenzy, divide everyone along ethnic and political and economic lines by seeking every worst case scenario, every sob story, every perceived injustice (real or imagined), and making it seem like someONE is responsible. This storm was an ACT OF GOD. Remember what is listed on insurance policies? It's because these things happen. Despite our collective extreme arrogance to the contrary, we cannot "fix" every situation. People get sick, they die, random things occur, etc... As for hyper-dimensional hurricanes, I wonder what the eye of Camille looked like? Or the 1935 Labor Day storm? I'd wager that their eyes were strangely shaped also.
Politics in this country have ALWAYS been divisive; read history. Not so long ago there was something called THE CIVIL WAR; Lincoln was murdered; Aaron Burr shot & killed Alexander Hamilton in a duel. In 1965, Hurricane Betsy flooded the west bank of New Orleans up to people's roofs. Was there a conspiracy then? Maybe an ancestor of Bush? Cheney? Anyone Republican?
Captain
honeybl said...
>Are you referring to "Killing Me Softly"?
>And to quote an incredibly wise and funny friend of mine: "Just because I'm not paranoid does NOT mean "They" are NOT out to get me!" :D <
I'm SURE the line "killing me slowly" is in there ... somewhere! :)
Your funny friend has it EXACTLY right.
Lesley said...
>I still don't understand why news reporters were allowed in and the Red Cross and other groups who could have given aid weren't. Many people need to be held accountable for this.<
The now not-so-secret-fight between the White House and Governor Blanco over this in those first few hours ... is a MAJOR part of this incredibly tragic puzzle ... and that quaint thing called "the Constitution."
dan perez said...
>>Lesley said...
>>I still don't understand why news reporters were allowed in and the Red Cross and other groups who could have given aid weren't. Many people need to be held accountable for this.<<
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>Because the chaos in New Orleans was an orchestrated psy-op designed by the Owls to gauge the publics reaction to the unfolding tragedy.
>As I pointed out on the previous blog;
>"The government's deliberately slow reaction to the disaster in New Orleans is a social engineering psychological experiment which is designed to test the physical and mental resiliency of people in a crisis so the government can later use this event as a socio-psychological model to calculate public reaction to future terror events and disasters."
>The "embedded" reporters were put there on purpose to broadcast those images to the world for the following reasons;
>1. Stir up public distrust in the legitimacy of constitutional U.S. Government.
>2. Create racial division and balkanization within America in order to cause the break-up of the U.S.
>3. Make the Globalist controlled U.N. and the E.U. look like the good cop while the Globalist controlled portions of the U.S. government(FEMA, Homeland Security, Bush Administration) plays the bad cop.
>In other words, the slow response to the Katrina aftermath was a Hegelian Dialectic "Problem/Reaction/Solution"(Thesis/AntiThesis/Synthesis) event that Alex Jones frequently points out his show;
>PROBLEM: Create chaos after a disaster to gauge the reaction of the public and the disaster survivors.
>REACTION: People become outraged and demand something be done.
>SOLUTION: More bureaucratic "big government", "martial law" and "police state control grids" are provided as the solution.<
While I agree in principle that what we're now seeing is some kind of HUGE "experiment," I'm not sure AT ALL that we know enough to understand the DETAILS ...
Was Katrina natural, and New Orleans and the rest of the Gulf Coast just exposed to "incredibly bad luck?" And, is all we're seeing in the awful aftermath merely an "opportunistic experiment" -- taking advantage of those awful initial conditions ... to "get new social data?"
Or ....
Was EVERYTHING designed from the beginning ... including, the highly suspicious "lack of modern communciations," up to and including simple SATELLITE phones??!!
The layers here are VERY complex. And, there may be a variety of "agencies" involved -- each doing things with this "target of opportunity" BESIDES just "saving people and trying to restore New Orleans."
For all those who think this is just nuts ...watch carefully what happens NEXT. That will be the major clue: if this is all precisely as it appears, New Orleans will recover. People will begin to recover their lives, return to ther Crescent City ... and rebuild.
If it is NOT ... then other "major events" will overtake those plans ... and we will ALL find ourselves in the middile of ANOTHER "huge crisis" ... for which this was truly "just a test," to see (among other things) how "pliable" Americans truly have become ....
Any and all REAL input to this model will be greatly appreciated ... ESPECIALLY from the guys actually running this extraordinary "Op." :)
Captain,
I'm sorry... do you have the official body count? Last time I checked, oh 30 seconds ago, nobody had a body count yet. I'm glad you know more than the rest of the world about how "LIGHT" the casualty count is.
If you don't think our government, both LA local and Federal, need to be held accountable for this, then you have serious issues.
I would also like to have a hearty laugh about how the National Guard and FEMA were talking about how they had to "break through" and "fight there way in" to the city, when most of the REPORTERS in the area drove in with freaking TV vans. They drove straight down town, and to a bunch of different locations. I've been watching and reading "official statements" all week long now. They are riddled with contradictions. Do some research.
I don't subscribe (YET) to the conspiracy theory ideas behind this. There is not enough evidence for me at this point. I believe it was a fundamental breakdown of emergency management and homeland security. I would like to know what happened between FEMA and Jefferson Parish though. If what we have been told is true, we need an explanation.
Anonymous said...
>Llook guys their just against us this admin, wheres chreney in all this? they want to destroy the gulf redevelop it make $$$ kill some americans remember more americans died on this presidents watch then any othe president. I live in florida, that hurricane turned at the last moment here by me too then made a weird turn south around FL thru the key and up last year irene made a 360 turn and hit within 2 miles of frances they can control the weather!!!<
Yes, the hurricane tracks of last year -- repeatedly through Florida ... and within a MILE (not "2 miles" ...) in two cases, are highly visible evidence of remarkable CONTROL over at least the tracks themselves (as "Doug" has independently confirmed) ....
Some folks just CAN'T bring themselves to look consider that astonishing evidence.
As to the "motivation," remember our Enterprise motto (after "To Boldly Go Where No One Has Gone Before ..."):
"The Lie is DIFFERENT ... at EVERY Level." :)
Cory,
My LIGHT comment is a reference to how large this tragedy could have been without the valiant aid provided by the government which includes our early warning systems, mass communication, transportation, search and rescue, police protection, and food and water.
I don't have SERIOUS ISSUES; are you accountable? Am I accountable? Accountable for what? Evacuating the majority of the city within 6 days?
Apparently, some reporters felt they were in danger; were they being shot at like the police and rescue workers? Did YOU go down there and risk your life? Does your watching and reading "official statements" all week constitute research? Research how? What more do you know then what the media wants you to know? How will you find out more?
Why do you give more credibility to the statements of Aaron Broussard? Because he cried? He's a Democrat? Why believe the MEDIA? Why suddenly faith in them? They are TOTALLY CORRUPT! There's a conspiracy for you! We need a blog entry tracking corruption, collusion, plotting, & conspiracy IN THE MEDIA! How many of them, Jason, are freemasons?
Cory, Don't become another sheeple of the media, rehashing their hysterical talking points. They essentially repeat the same thing again & again FOR HOURS until people believe the mantra! What nonsense!
Captain
Anonymous said...
>Llook guys their just against us this admin, wheres chreney in all this? they want to destroy the gulf redevelop it make $$$ kill some americans remember more americans died on this presidents watch then any othe president. I live in florida, that hurricane turned at the last moment here by me too then made a weird turn south around FL thru the key and up last year irene made a 360 turn and hit within 2 miles of frances they can control the weather!!!<
No disrespect, Richard, but has anyone bothered to look at the HISTORY of hurricane tracks over the past three decades in the Atlantic? There have been MANY seemingly unusual tracks, year after year.
50,000 to 60,000 unaccounted for in New Orleans
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200509/s1452896.htm
"New Orleans has turned to the gruesome task of collecting its dead, with rescue teams scouring flooded streets and homes to find survivors and recover thousands of corpses.
Six days after Hurricane Katrina ripped up the US Gulf Coast and sent floodwaters pouring into New Orleans, no-one knows how many people have been killed.
A total of 59 bodies have been collected so far but government officials say the number killed is surely in the thousands. Between 50,000 and 60,000 people are unaccounted for."
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This number is also being confirmed on the New Orleans indymedia website;
http://neworleans.indymedia.org/news/2005/09/4374.php
"Here is a bit of heart breaking news. There is only one radio station people can receive in the city. Daniel said that people trapped in their attics in the lower 9th ward have been calling the station saying where they are and asking that some one come get them. But there is no one to come. Those that are not already dead are dying. Daniel estimates that there are easily some 40-50,000 people dead in their homes in the lower 9th ward. I can not imagine listening to this on the radio, knowing that these peoples pleas are falling on deaf ears. They have simply been left to die."
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So it appears what's going on in New Orleans is 100 times worse than what's being put out on the TV networks.
Major spin control by the Globalist controlled media and Globalist controlled elements of the government is in full force.
jojens said...
>Dr. Hoagland,
Not to change the subject of this wonderful blog at all, but I have been excitedly waiting for part 7 post on the satelite Iapetus on your web page Enterprise Mission.
Have you any new information?<
Emergencies -- and people's lives -- take precedence ....
Check out these sites:
http://www.tpc.ncep.noaa.gov/HAW2/english/history.shtml
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pastall.shtml
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pastdead.html
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pastdead.html
Rich said:
"Any and all REAL input to this model will be greatly appreciated ... ESPECIALLY from the guys actually running this extraordinary "Op." :)"
Which is, what it is.
Many diffrent orginizations, all looking for ... ... data.
Thats right data. Data? Well yes, data. Well, what could be done with data? Why, alot!
Dammit Rich, I mean. :-) C'mon, stop farting around with this hurricane, your wasteing your time. Bigger things are coming, or, where all just "crazy". Where's the conclusion to "moon with a view"?
And to Jasgrave333, why would "The fraternity of man" - the Masons (The spritual builders) - want one of there side orginizations to study the systimatic and problematic issues of to social moral and ethical collaspe to include (like a cherry on a sunday) economical and infrastructure collaspe? Why would a ALL KNOWING, and ALL POWERFUL religion as the international society of freemasonary be intrested in that?
Perhaps to prepare for the "Big Event" - the last supper - the last sling slong bang alang with the 'ol lady? Dig it? Perhaps you should read some more of my previous posts. Then.
Take a big long breath, and take a nap. It's going to be all good my brother....
Sword
Richard, you wrote, "General observation ....Notice how many people have "suddenly" appeared, questioning my "credibility" ... amid the "name calling" ... as soon as we provide OFFICIAL, uncontestable evidence -- Senate Bill 517 -- of ACTIVE Federal movement into the whole "black ops area" of "operational weather control."
In fact, as soon as you mentioned 'weather control'. Over at Space.com, someone even started a thread called "The Deconstruction of Richard Hoagland".
lolol.........someone is very frightened. =) Yep, despite the horror, I wonder what you (we) have ultimately prevented.
T'Zempt, thanks for confirming, what I hoped was true for me :)
"So the BOLs, like the crop formations themselves, are a long-term phenomenon, and *did not* 'just start up' in the late 50's/early 60's, along with the modern formations."
YES yes YES yes!!!
FANTASTIC, this also reminds me of a video, of the creation of the these crop circles, which another team 'seemed' to debunk showing a guy running round a field with a plastic bag... now I've gotten some kind of DEPTH to the 'DISINFORMATION' programme, I can see that the debunking actually maybe MORE DISINFORMATION... GOOD work T'Zempt, thank you for that deeper research mucho appreciated...
Richard Said:
"Notice how some folks will REFUSE to face reality ... even when it's introduced as the proverbial "Act of Congress?" :)
Hopefully, Robert, you live far inland .... "
We are merely in an upcycle in tropical development.
Just because their studying and trying to "modify our weather" does not mean they have. Most importantly, if they COULD modify our weather they would have done it to weaken the damn storm!
Of course, that's if I even understand the hyperdimensional hurricane theory.
Date: Sep 5, 2005 7:48 AM
The Potemkin Photo Op
From the 'briefing' that went on in a hangar full of helicopters to his walking down a street in Biloxi and having three regular citizens walk up to him for comforting to the last press availiability of the day when he announced that the Convention Center was secure and the levees were being repaired, it was clear that the game plan from the White House was for Bush to go to the region, look decisive, comfort a few citizens, and announce at the end of the day that all was well.
It was a full-on effort to change the subject of discussion from the utter failure of the Bush administration to handle the crisis with even a hint of competency, and in true Bush fashion, he wrapped it up at 5:00 PM and announced that he was 'Flyin' out of (t)here.'
But from beginning to end, the entire exercise was a series of lies - a Potemkin photo op designed to fool those Americans who were not bothering to look closely at what was going on. Let's look at key aspects of Bush's trip that were covered by television.
The Briefing: There were a lot of questions asked yesterday morning about the phony briefing that Bush got in that hangar, featuring a backdrop of Coast Guard helicopters. People were wondering why those choppers were not out picking up flood victims or delivering supplies. The reason why is simple - Bush had the majority of helcopter traffic stopped while Marine One was in the Gulf Coast region. The New Orleans Times-Picayune reported this (Via AmericaBlog):
Three tons of food ready for delivery by air to refugees in St. Bernard Parish and on Algiers Point sat on the Crescent City Connection bridge Friday afternoon as air traffic was halted because of President Bush's visit to New Orleans, officials said.
The provisions, secured by U.S. Rep. Charlie Melancon, D-Napoleonville, and state Agriculture Commissioner Bob Odom, baked in the afternoon sun as Bush surveyed damage across southeast Louisiana five days after Katrina made landfall as a Category 4 storm, said Melancon's chief of staff, Casey O'Shea.
ÒWe had arrangements to airlift food by helicopter to these folks, and now the food is sitting in trucks because they wonÕt let helicopters fly, O'Shea said Friday afternoon.
The food was expected to be in the hands of storm survivors after the president left the devastated region Friday night, he said.
This leaves me wondering how many people died while Bush was playing Decisive Leader.
The First 'Comforting Session': Then it was off to Biloxi, MS to survey the damage. As Bush, Haley Barbour and others walked down a street, 2 women appeared seemingly out of nowhere for Bush to 'comfort' them. But it turns out that the two women didn't even live in Biloxi, and had just come down for the day to try to 'salvage' clothes from the area for one of the women's son (were they looters?). But they were apparently reasonably telegenic and happened to be in the area, so they were recruited to represent an area where they didn't even live. A number of threads at Democratic Underground discuss the weirdness of these women showing up in a disaster area. And a trandcript of the conversation between Bush and the women reads like a bad comedy skit:
Bush to women: "There's a Salvation Army center that I want to, that I'll tell you where it is, and they'll get you some help. I'm sorry.... They'll help you.....
Woman 1: "I came here looking for clothes..."
Bush: "They'll get you some clothes, at the Salvation Army center..."
Woman 1: "We don't have anything..."
Bush: "I understand.... Do you know where the center is, that I'm talking to you about?"
Guy with shades: "There's no center there, sir, it's a truck."
Bush: "There's trucks?"
Guy: "There's a school, a school about two miles away....."
Bush: "But isn't there a Salvation center down there?"
Guy: "No that's wiped out...."
Bush: "A temporary center? "
Guy: "No sir they've got a truck there, for food."
Bush: "That's what I'm saying, for food and water."
Bush turns to the sister who's been saying how she needs clothes.
Bush to sister: "You need food and water."
The 'Recovery Efforts': Wherever Bush went yesterday, it seemed as though people were already hard at work rebuilding the affected areas. Unfortunately for Bush, there were a few foreign journalists at his photo ops, and they pulled back the curtain on what we saw on TV to reveal that the 'work' was staged for the media. Here's a translation from the German news show web site.
Christine Adelhardt live from Biloxi:
"Two minutes ago the President drove by with his convoy. What happened here in Biloxi during the day is really unbelievable. All of a sudden the rescue troops finally showed up, the clean-up vehicles; we didn't see those over the last days here. In an area where it really isn't urgent, there is nobody around, all the remaining people went to the city center.
The President is traveling with a press convoy, so they get wonderful pictures saying the president was here and the help will follow. The amount of this catastrophe shocked me, but the amount of set-up that happened here today is at least equally shocking for me.
And there's more, this time on the 'recovery efforts' in New Orleans, from War And Piece:
There was a striking dicrepancy between the CNN International report on the Bush visit to the New Orleans disaster zone, yesterday, and reports of the same event by German TV.
ZDF News reported that the president's visit was a completely staged event. Their crew witnessed how the open air food distribution point Bush visited in front of the cameras was torn down immediately after the president and the herd of 'news people' had left and that others which were allegedly being set up were abandoned at the same time.
The people in the area were once again left to fend for themselves, said ZDF.
Levee Repairs in New Orleans: As Bush flew around the skies above New Orleans, CNN began showing footage of a bulldozer and dump trucks working on the 17th Street levee, which was the maqin source of the flood waters in New Orleans. When Bush got ready to leave, he crowed that 'progress is flowing.' But according to Sen. Mary Landrieu, the crew that was working so hard yesterday left and apparently never came back:
But perhaps the greatest disappointment stands at the breached 17th Street levee. Touring this critical site yesterday with the President, I saw what I believed to be a real and significant effort to get a handle on a major cause of this catastrophe. Flying over this critical spot again this morning, less than 24 hours later, it became apparent that yesterday we witnessed a hastily prepared stage set for a Presidential photo opportunity; and the desperately needed resources we saw were this morning reduced to a single, lonely piece of equipment. The good and decent people of southeast Louisiana and the Gulf Coast - black and white, rich and poor, young and old - deserve far better from their national government.
Control of the Convention Center: Bush made a big deal of telling the nation that the icon for unrest and chaos in New Orleans this week - the New Orleans Convention Center - was secured by the time of his statement yesterday.
I'm pleased to report, thanks to the good work of the adjutant general from Louisiana and the troops that have been called in that the convention center is secure.
But as was pointed out this morning, a report by CNN Pentagon correspondent Barbara Starr directly contradicted Bush's statement.
CNN's Barbara Starr reports that there is "no indication" the convention center in New Orleans is secure. She reports there is still much unrest.
And the now-famous Fox News video of Geraldo Rivera inside the Convention Center showed how Bush's idea of 'securing' the center was locking the people in.
All of this information has turned up in one spot or another on the web since yesterday, but I wanted to put it all together in one spot for a reason. Bit by bit, parts of Bush's trip were shown to be less truthful than we deserved. But when you look at the entire trip - and all of the deceit that went into each part of it - it's an inescapable fact that from beginning to end the trip was a menu of lies and self-serving actions that didn't do the region any good. In some instances, like the helicopter groundings halting rescue ops, the trip could conceivably actually killed more people.
And that's the bottom line with this administration. It always has been. Bush, Rove, and the rest of them will go to any measures to get their version of the truth out. and if a few of the little people happen to die in the process, it's no skin off their noses. All of America should know what the true bottom line is.
You are being lied to, and lives have been lost because of it.
Anonymous said...
>Arrrrgggghhhh! The Weather Modificaton Act is intended to find ways to DISSIPATE threatening systems -- read the Bill, Richard! Don't just publish hyperdimensional rants that take real world developments with totally logical explanations and distrot them to fit your warped model of the universe!
>If you knew one thing about what really goes on in BLACK projects, you'd know that a select Congressional committee works with the Executive Branch to manage a now completely public fund (as far as the total amount is concerned) for 'Beyond Top Secret' research. Agencies receiving the funds included the DOD, CIA, NSA, NRO and rarely any others. IF Iand only if) there is indeed a viable Wx mod program, it is BLACK. It never would see the light of day as the cited Wx Mod Act you cite so plainly does. The powers that be would NEVER let a white world act potentially reveal a BLACK project! It will not happen -- never has, never will.
>And anyone involved in research and development can tell you that $10M, even $100M won't go anywhere near getting you near to approaching ooperational reality. The Manhatten Project cost over $1B in todays dollars -- Based upon your rants here, one must conclude that Hyper-D weather vortex steering must be so simple all one has to do is mentally focus on the gods of Atlantis, channel their energy, look at a local map and grab a joystick off the X-Box to generate a tropical storm, gin it up to catagory 5, and steer it to pinpoint accuracy!!!!!
>Might I suggest a vacation, Richard! And when you finally take it, take some time to get your facts staight on R&D budgeting, BLACK programs and Congressional oversight! A refresher course on forming logical conclusions would also serve you well.
>You are pleading an arguement totally lacking logical premeses and conclusions, ignoring the scientific methods for dissent, and employing tabloid sensationalism/journalism. There is NO POWER on thie Earth that can do what you are claiming. Not YET! This tremendous energy is the result of global warming (cyclic and natural combined with manmade emissions) powering horrific natural engines of destruction. Nothing more. You'd be better off spending your time halting global warming than trying to destroy the faith of the masses in their representative form of government.<
" ...trying to destroy the faith of the masses in their representative form of government."
Ah, so THAT'S the worry ....
Can't attack the "faith" now, can we ...? :)
The answers to your really intersting questions re the substance of "the Act" will be, as I said at the end of what i wrote, dealt with in a separate "Captain's Blog."
But -- you're asking the RIGHT questions.
It DOESN'T make sense ... on the surface. So, it needs to be carefully investigated.
On the surface, this public "weather modification" effort will "only" be dealing with technlogies we tried (and rejected!) over 50 years ago! Amd the money is absurd .. .if they are serious.
So ... what's REALLY wrong with this picture?
Stay tuned.
Latter_days_aint, yes sah!, keep studying and keep pulling on all the strings of Intellectuallism, that is being forced upon, Question EVERYTHING and find the TRUTH... you will ;)
Z, thanks, we are starting to hear from members displaced by the harrowing ordeal... it's been a tough week, again more prayers and thoughts to anyone directly affected...sigh...
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Anonymous said...
>>OSIRIS 195 said:
>>"I don't need RCH to destroy my faith in our Government, they have done that on their own. When one starts to take an objective look at what our "representative form of government" has given us, one has to conclude that unless WE THE PEOPLE do something drastic to halt its invasion into our lives and liberties, WE THE PEOPLE will be destined to live in the 4th Reich!"
>Well, to quote another dead white guy, the late, great Sir Winston Churchill: "It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried."
>4th Reich! I guess that's why Cuban's float on plywood rafts and Mexicans risk their lives crossing the Rio Grande, climbing fences, crawling through dangerous tunnels or riding (packed like sardines) in trucks, vans and railroad cars to flock by the millions each year into such a repressive regime! WHAT! These people are suicidal?
>Move to France then -- pledge allegience to China, or move to Canada! When was the last time you voted -- if you ever have? When was the last time you attended a town coucil meeting, wrote a letter to the editor, or volunteered at your local school or church or soup kitchen? Grow up, get a job, pay taxes and contribute to the human family -- stop your hateful, inciteful and radically psychotic ranting and join the human race!!!!! <
I LOVE how all of a sudden, all of these totally "anonymous," blatantly cowardly (there I said it ...) folks are showing up ... trying to argue an obviously ridiculous positon:
That EVERYTHING has gone absolutely right with this disaster ....
You don't suppose we've "touched a nerve" ... or "something?" :)
Check out the excellant view of the pentagram in Hurricane Isabel of 2003!!
http://www.tpc.ncep.noaa.gov/HAW2/english/history.shtml
VERY pronounced!!
Captain,
As an intelligent person, I watched the footage and listened to OFFICIAL STATEMENTS put out by the spokesmen of the National Guard, Army Corps of Engineers, FEMA, the Red Cross, Politicians, etc. I am well aware of media spin, and because of it I get my new from about 20 different sources, and come to my own thoughtful conclusion. I don't simply listen to a couple media blowhards and consider myself informed.
The fact remains, in my opinion, that the local government should have made a larger effort to evacuate the poor BEFORE the hurricane hit. The Army Corp of Engineers should have spent the money DECADES ago to fix the aging levees. FEMA should have known about the possibility of the levee breaches, and had a plan for getting massive aid into the city in the event it was needed. Some sort of SIMPLE communication method should have been used to let people know help was on the way, instead of leaving tens of thousands of stranded hurricane and flood victims in the dark for days on end. Even now you can watch and listen to people who are in the heart of the battlefield, talking about how uncoordinated the entire rescue effort is. People are running around without direction, arguing over "territories". The list goes on and on.
What I hear from you is the crap that the government is spewing now about their "massive and heroic rescue effort" which should have begun 4+ days ago, is at full steam. How they had to "break through", and "fight their way in" for 4-5 days, even though no single media camera captured video of tens of thousands of National Guard "fighting their way in" to the city. While they were in some sort of imaginary battle to breach an imaginary barrier, people like Geraldo Rivera, Scarborough, Sheppard Smith, and countless other media faces simply drove into town with TV vans.
I'm not faulting the people who are on the ground there doing their jobs. I'm faulting the machine that is supposed to set those people into action, and save lives. That machine broke down, and the whole world can see it.
Don't pretend to talk to me like you know me, or look down your nose at me. I am not part of the "sheeple" you so fondly use to make yourself feel special. I've been watching and listening to the people who are at the core of the matter. I know better than to pay attention to media propaganda. All you have to do is read between the lines, and you can see something went terribly wrong.
"Why do you give more credibility to the statements of Aaron Broussard? Because he cried? He's a Democrat? Why believe the MEDIA? Why suddenly faith in them? They are TOTALLY CORRUPT! There's a conspiracy for you! We need a blog entry tracking corruption, collusion, plotting, & conspiracy IN THE MEDIA!
How many of them, Jason, are freemasons?"
All of them on FOX, I'm sure, they are simply TALKING HEADS, on that channel... CNN is starting to take a serious view on the COMPLETE FAILURE TO HELP STRANDED ABANDONED PEOPLE...
Whilst disinformation is going on, a VIDEO AND PICTURES, speak more than a thousand words... The TRUE SHADDOWY FREEMASONS HAVE YET TO SHOW THEIR SMUG faces, but when they do, THEN ALL HELL WILL BREAK LOOSE, we are getting there.
Even the input now, is tuned, there are those that are still asleep, and haven't yet completed ANY RESEARCH, into SCALAR WEAPONARY... what was that link...
www.cheniere.org
Read that, and remember that SCALAR devices, 10 of them, have been sent to IRAQ to discover and explode IED's and MINES from 200+ yards away... THESE SCALAR devices exist...
...is the CONCEPT, of MICROWAVING THE ATMOSPHERE SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND??? Think beyond microwaving and into Satellites armed with IONISATION DEVICES and SCALAR BEAM WEAPONARY, No one on this planet is SAFE, if those claims are true too...
Oh, and for the record, I said I am interested to see what happened, if anything, at Jefferson Parish. Some serious claims were made, and I want to know what really went on down there.
Anonymous said...
>In times of crisis, EVERYONE has a story, an opinion, a conspiracy theory, a "shaking a fist in the air" in frustration, tears, etc...
>This was a major, NATURAL disaster, the response wasn't perfect for MANY reasons. We are very fortunate that the casualties were so LIGHT.
>The media is the true villain. They are the ones profiting off of human misery while at the same time appearing to be objective, compassionate, earnest. They hype and stir and incense, and offer no real solutions. They whip everyone into a frenzy, divide everyone along ethnic and political and economic lines by seeking every worst case scenario, every sob story, every perceived injustice (real or imagined), and making it seem like someONE is responsible. This storm was an ACT OF GOD. Remember what is listed on insurance policies? It's because these things happen. Despite our collective extreme arrogance to the contrary, we cannot "fix" every situation. People get sick, they die, random things occur, etc... As for hyper-dimensional hurricanes, I wonder what the eye of Camille looked like? Or the 1935 Labor Day storm? I'd wager that their eyes were strangely shaped also.
>Politics in this country have ALWAYS been divisive; read history. Not so long ago there was something called THE CIVIL WAR; Lincoln was murdered; Aaron Burr shot & killed Alexander Hamilton in a duel. In 1965, Hurricane Betsy flooded the west bank of New Orleans up to people's roofs. Was there a conspiracy then? Maybe an ancestor of Bush? Cheney? Anyone Republican?<
It's truly FASCINATING the number of "anonymous" folks who have suddenly showed up, desperately trying to convince rational people simply asking questions in the face of an incomprensible disaster -- part of which was OBVIOUSLY "man-made" (the week AFTER Katrina came ashore) that "nothing's wrong" ....
Curiously, their posts -- from board ... to board ... to board ... across the Internet ... are ALL THE SAME!!
Gosh: you don't supposed they're being PAID to do this, do you? is someone actually WORRIED ...? :)
Cory,
Then you apparently have stumbled upon the main reason for this unbelievable tragedy: New Orleans proper is a poor, old, cliqish, politically corrupt city and it has been that way FOR DECADES. How can we fault a SIX day emergency rescue effort when for several DECADES local leaders were unwilling and/or unable to solve the major issues?
The machine that you are mistaking is not the government, it is the media (all 20 sources) who are not overexaggerating the MAGNITUDE of the disaster, but the MAGNITUDE of the relief effort, and trying to somehow blame the deaths of all of those people on FEMA, the military, the Bush administration, etc.. when the real culprits are ALL OF THE PEOPLE who lived in New Orleans over the past several decades who did NOTHING to remedy the problems of the city; and some of the problems can't be remedied, short of relocating the entire population of certain areas of the city due to the fact that much of New Orleans continually sinks DRAMATICALLY. Every year for 30 years that I lived there, I had to purchase 3 truckloads of dirt to spread on my PERSONAL residence to combat SUBSIDENCE. Has the media from the 20 sources that you listen to told you that? How about the fact that the majority of the residents LEFT BEHIND, had the ability to respond to the MANDATORY evacuations, but instead IGNORED the warnings because of the real trauma involved in driving from New Orleans to Baton Rouge (normally a 90 minute trip that takes over TEN HOURS when everyone is evacuating), and the FACT that another storm had recently missed New Orleans at the last minute causing thousands to evacuate for nothing? Did the 20 media source tell you that? Did the media sources tell you that many people in the city REFUSE to leave under ANY circumstance?
I'm sorry that I offended you with my "sheeple" remark; I just get so tired of listening to all this media propaganda. It's truly hard to see through the BS to what the real causes of this tragedy are. Consider this: If someone told you that F-5 tornadoes were historically common in your area within 100 years, and they further told you that a trailer was not a safe place to be in a tornado, and if they further told you that one was coming, and if they further ordered you to leave, and if they told you that the city might lose all power, all food, and flood and despite all of this you stayed and somehow managed to survive the storm, would you have the GALL to ignore all of YOUR personal responsibility and point fingers at the rescue efforts of those who were trying to rescue you?
THIS IS WHAT IS GOING ON IN NEW ORLEANS AS WE SPEAK!!!
No machinecan save every person's life if they are unwilling to make ANY attempt to save themselves; I'm sorry. And this tragically includes those who CANNOT save themselves. The government is the government, they are not God; I don't care what the media and/or Monday morning politician/quarterbacks think.
Having said all of this, it was and is incredibly horrifying and heartwrenching to see all of these people suffer and possibly die; any of us could potentially suffer the same fate, but just think about how many HEEDED the warnings and didn't die!
Captain
question... did anyone here notice,on the very first morning after the 17th st levee breached. the collapse happened backwards! i have the footage taped. a news copter flying over looking down at the breach. the broken edges are leaning into the canal,as apposed to toward the house's that were flooded. it's very odd,to say the least. explosives anyone? and on the wrong side if the levee!
And to Jasgrave333, why would "The fraternity of man" - the Masons (The spritual builders) - want one of there side orginizations to study the systimatic and problematic issues of to social moral and ethical collaspe to include (like a cherry on a sunday) economical and infrastructure collaspe? Why would a ALL KNOWING, and ALL POWERFUL religion as the international society of freemasonary be intrested in that?
Perhaps to prepare for the "Big Event" - the last supper - the last sling slong bang alang with the 'ol lady? Dig it? Perhaps you should read some more of my previous posts. Then.
Take a big long breath, and take a nap. It's going to be all good my brother....
Sword
5/9/05 9:09 PM
Hmmmm the enemy is the people?
or are we TALKING ABOUT A GRAND weapon? Interesting, need more need more... What about the infighting inside the Fraternities, for instance, as an EX JW, I noted plenty of political infighting, and such...
...In fact, in a congregation I used to be in, in Slough, England, one of the Elders was suspected of PEADAPHILLIA, yet the other elders DID LITTLE OR NOTHING, but the congregation WAS in UPROAR and yes there is an amazing STRUGGLE in the JWitness org... the power struggle, the lying and internal politics, the money, the corruption, goes RIGHT to the top... JW's and the UN in the same bed... hi hi hi, the JW's that haven't woken up yet, are in for a NASTY MATRIX style awakening, DJBarney is right on that score, I'm treading carefully with EX JW's as that is where I woke up from and the sleepy wake up, really was painful... Sword, what's happening inside the FREEMASONS?
WHATS going on inside the ILLUMINATI... I have other contacts and 'family' members that secreet me data every now and then as their own inside contacts allow... but the FEAR OF REPRISAL from FELLOW PRACTICERS of the CRAFT often outways, what can divulged, FEAR of their OWN...that does not sound like a LOVING organisation... it sounds more like the cult, that is the JWitnesses... I will gladly divulge all and more data if you want to know more about the corruption of the JW org?
What do your FELLOWS, think of BUSH? and what of this mess?
It's truly FASCINATING the number of "anonymous" folks who have suddenly showed up, desperately trying to convince rational people simply asking questions in the face of an incomprensible disaster -- part of which was OBVIOUSLY "man-made" (the week AFTER Katrina came ashore) that "nothing's wrong" ....
Curiously, their posts -- from board ... to board ... to board ... across the Internet ... are ALL THE SAME!!
Gosh: you don't supposed they're being PAID to do this, do you? is someone actually WORRIED ...? :)
Actually, Richard, I have posted several times before on your excellent blog; I just haven't signed with a name until now for the very reason you state. And the reason I am so passionate about this (despite the unbelievable pain that I am in because of friends and my destroyed city) is because I have LIVED through this nonsense, year after year, in the city of New Orleans. It boggles my mind how incompetent the government is down there and how unwilling to even raise a finger (except to blame others or to accept a free handout) to help themselves in ANY WAY a large number of the population down there is. And then to hear the MEDIA MACHINE allow a voice to people who have NO IDEA what's going on down there (except their version of the past few hours) is too much for me to take.
Maybe the similarities you may be noticing (this is the only blog that I frequent other than a sports blog) are due to the fact that there are a large number of people like me who really know what has gone on in New Orleans over the past 40 years who can't take the nonsense that the mainstream media is putting out.
Captain
question... did anyone here notice,on the very first morning after the 17th st levee breached. the collapse happened backwards! i have the footage taped. a news copter flying over looking down at the breach. the broken edges are leaning into the canal,as apposed to toward the house's that were flooded. it's very odd,to say the least. explosives anyone? and on the wrong side if the levee!
Not explosives, the levee collapsing from underneath the surface of the water due to the incredible pressure.
Richard,
"For all those who think this is just nuts ...watch carefully what happens NEXT. That will be the major clue: if this is all precisely as it appears, New Orleans will recover. People will begin to recover their lives, return to ther Crescent City ... and rebuild.
If it is NOT ... then other "major events" will overtake those plans ... and we will ALL find ourselves in the middile of ANOTHER "huge crisis" ... for which this was truly "just a test," to see (among other things) how "pliable" Americans truly have become ...."
Damn, you must be a mind reader! Just when the "It's all in me head" mantra was about to go off upstairs, the same train of thought as above started a-blowin' its whistle.
My wife mentioned that this would be an ideal time for "the terrorists" to strike. I started wondering why they hadn't yet myself. Then I wondered...
If we're right, and all this is staged, then surely "the terrorists" are fully aware of it and are waiting for the right moment...
i.e...
after the populace of N'Awlins has RETURNED HOME...
Which operation is currently in progress...
Anonymous said...
>>OSIRIS 195 said:
>>"I don't need RCH to destroy my faith in our Government, they have done that on their own. When one starts to take an objective look at what our "representative form of government" has given us, one has to conclude that unless WE THE PEOPLE do something drastic to halt its invasion into our lives and liberties, WE THE PEOPLE will be destined to live in the 4th Reich!"
>Well, to quote another dead white guy, the late, great Sir Winston Churchill: "It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried."
>4th Reich! I guess that's why Cuban's float on plywood rafts and Mexicans risk their lives crossing the Rio Grande, climbing fences, crawling through dangerous tunnels or riding (packed like sardines) in trucks, vans and railroad cars to flock by the millions each year into such a repressive regime! WHAT! These people are suicidal?
>Move to France then -- pledge allegience to China, or move to Canada! When was the last time you voted -- if you ever have? When was the last time you attended a town coucil meeting, wrote a letter to the editor, or volunteered at your local school or church or soup kitchen? Grow up, get a job, pay taxes and contribute to the human family -- stop your hateful, inciteful and radically psychotic ranting and join the human race!!!!! <
It was true at one time that immigrants were looking for better opportunities in America because their options "at home" were limited or non-existent. But now, MANY of the immigrants who come to this country do so to suck off the Welfare Teat that will give almost anyone a free suck! So these people are not suicidal, but greedy. I will not paint every immigrant with this brush, but MANY are in that category.
Move to France? You MUST listen to Limabugh and Hannity because that is the same drivel I hear on their programs. It is fashonable to say that France would be speaking German if it had not been for us bailing them out in WWI & WWII. Let's not forget, if it had not been for Lafayette and the French, we would not have won the Revolution. That is not revisionist history, that's FACT!
Yes, I voted in the last election and I voted for Michael Badnarik for President. I attended a town council meeting in May and I wrote a letter to the editor of the SF Chronicle last month. I am in the process of getting my teaching credential for the State of California. I pay more taxes than I care to thank you, as if that is a measure of anything.
Do you know your Civics and your History? I mean REALLY know them, not just what you hear from the Oxy addict or the Smurf? I'll challenge you ANY DAY to talk politics and history, simp.
But I know that if I don't have a big R by my name, I'm psychotic, right?
"Anonymous said...
Date: Sep 5, 2005 7:48 AM
The Potemkin Photo Op"
Hey, your from STA no? get a login and join THE debate... :)
If that's you, then I read this posting on STA too... fantastic...
Richard said..."I LOVE how all of a sudden, all of these totally "anonymous," blatantly cowardly (there I said it ...) folks are showing up ... trying to argue an obviously ridiculous positon:
That EVERYTHING has gone absolutely right with this disaster ....
You don't suppose we've "touched a nerve" ... or "something?" :)
5/9/05 9:28 PM"
Somebody said earlier, you've just produced the GOLDEN ticket :)
You've pulled some big strings Cap'n, keep pulling 'em, their wheels are coming of their soggy oily, greasy money loving, band waggon :)
Cory said...
Captain,
As an intelligent person, I watched the footage and listened to OFFICIAL STATEMENTS put out by the spokesmen of the National Guard, Army Corps of Engineers, FEMA, the Red Cross, Politicians, etc. I am well aware of media spin, and because of it I get my new from about 20 different sources, and come to my own thoughtful conclusion. I don't simply listen to a couple media blowhards and consider myself informed..."
YES Cory!!! YES, for all you SLEEPY, JUST WAKING UP, bloggers... GOOGLE your NEWS... 4500 sources are rendered, PER NEWS ITEM... READ AT LEAST THREE SEPERATE UNCONNECTED SOURCES, to get at least a 3D picture of the issue... then READ MORE, DELVE, and do not JUST WATCH your SPOON FED PSY OPS NEWS CHANNEL, READ READ READ READ READ, and then READ somemore... Cory your right, and well said...
Latter_days_aint said..."Damn, you must be a mind reader! Just when the "It's all in me head" mantra was about to go off upstairs, the same train of thought as above started a-blowin' its whistle.
My wife mentioned that this would be an ideal time for "the terrorists" to strike. I started wondering why they hadn't yet myself. Then I wondered...
If we're right, and all this is staged, then surely "the terrorists" are fully aware of it and are waiting for the right moment...
i.e...
after the populace of N'Awlins has RETURNED HOME...
Which operation is currently in progress...
5/9/05 10:02 PM "
:) darn see, miss ya input :)
Whose terrorists??? and haven't they ALREADY struck? and maybe are still STRIKING??? this was a TERRIFYING event, that left many traumatised, 2 suicides in the NOLA Police force and 200 resignations etc... whilst that is the tip of the iceberg...
A SMOKING GUN to the TERRORIST sitting at the TOP LEVEL, is that the WHITEHOUSE DID NOT LOWER THE FLAGS for the NOLA EVENT, ONLY WHEN A FELLOW FREEMASON HAD PASSED ON CHEIF JUSTIC Third REIch... errm RENQUIST, that's the name...
So, if they DIDN't LOWER the FLAGS TO HALF MAST TILL one of their OWN snuffed it, then what kind of mentality is driving the WHITEHOUSE?
AND WHY ARE THE USA IN IRAQ AGAIN???
710...OIL
SHIFT HAPPENS!
http://www.shifthappens.us/kyoto.html
http://www.shifthappens.us/war.html
http://www.shifthappens.us/impact.html
GOOD LUCK
MS
Richard,
A little off topic (or is it), but how do we learn for about HDP seeing how the "People" that know all about it and whats been going on since.. we'll call it "The Mars Days" don't seem in too much of a hurry to come clean and change the world to how it should be.
"If we can find a way to harness it!" You say in your moon briefing about Io and the cities on your nextdoor neighbor.
This is the key... and obviously it's up to us to open the door.
By the way, Great work.
All in good time my friend... all in time...
"learn about" sorry
Cory said...
>Captain,
>I'm sorry... do you have the official body count? Last time I checked, oh 30 seconds ago, nobody had a body count yet. I'm glad you know more than the rest of the world about how "LIGHT" the casualty count is.<
No, we have been getting a suspiciously LOW count -- both for New Orleans, as well as Mississippi. This is logical; there has literally been NO systematic count ... as everyone is now "racing the clock" to save all those who are still alive -- especially in New Orleans.
As the "curve of recovery" of LIVE people declines, this effort will shift (it's shifting now -- according to the suddenly coordinated coverage on all the networks) to "the bodies." And then, the "count" will rise -- DRAMATICALLY.
>If you don't think our government, both LA local and Federal, need to be held accountable for this, then you have serious issues.<
What would have EVER given you the idea that I think these agencies should NOT be held accountable!!??
Why do you think I'm on "Coast" almost 24/7 ... WITHOUT being paid!!
>I would also like to have a hearty laugh about how the National Guard and FEMA were talking about how they had to "break through" and "fight there way in" to the city, when most of the REPORTERS in the area drove in with freaking TV vans. They drove straight down town, and to a bunch of different locations. I've been watching and reading "official statements" all week long now. They are riddled with contradictions. Do some research.<
Totally ridiculous excuses ....
>I don't subscribe (YET) to the conspiracy theory ideas behind this. There is not enough evidence for me at this point. I believe it was a fundamental breakdown of emergency management and homeland security. I would like to know what happened between FEMA and Jefferson Parish though. If what we have been told is true, we need an explanation.<
Read the Chicago Sun-Times story above -- re FEMA turning down the Mayor of Chicago, who was prepared to send a small army of volunteers and aid ... to help.
What will it take for you "fence-sitters" [ :) ] to figure it out: something REALLY smells about all this ... and it's NOT just
the water on the streets of New Orleans ....
And .. what about all those HAMS ...?
Oh, and one last little question: if everything is so on the "up and up' ... just where the HELL is Dick Cheny?!!
Some points of thought:
nicely scrambled..
Lets remember(Jasgrave333!), that good ol George Bush is the [ 13th ] cousin of Britain's Queen Mother and her daughter Queen Elizabeth. Bush is a 13th cousin, once removed, of the heir to the throne Prince Charles, and has a direct descent from Henry III and from Henry VIII's sister, Mary Tudor, who was also the wife of Louis XI of France. The main point being George W Bush is descended from Brittish Royalty going as far back as the 12 century to King Henry I, the son of William the Conqueror. Note, this is the William who invaded Britain from France and won the Battle of Hastings in 1066.
Thanks to a good bit of verifiable reference in "Tales from the Time Loop" David Icke. A startling read.
Well worth checking, re the bigger agenda, with some quality sources.
It seems that the United States went Bankrupt to the Global Banking System in 1933.
-This Bankruptcy is in the United States Congressional Record of March 17th, 1993(Vol. 33, page h-1303). James Traficant Jr. of Ohio spoke to the House.
-The United States Federal Government had been dissolved by the Emergency Banking Act, March 9, 1933, 48 Stat. 1, Public Law 89-719; declared by President Roosevelt, being bankrupt and insolvent. H.J.R. 192,73 Congress session June 5, 1933 Joint Resolution to Suspend The Gold Standard and Abrogate the Gold Clause dissolved the Sovereign Authority of the United States and the official capacities of all United States Governmental Offices, Officers, Departments and is further evidence that the United States Federal Government exists today in name only.
So that pretty much says that George W Bush is the current President of a Company, not a "Country".
Actually a Corporation!
We The People is a bit of an illusion, and there are debts or loans to pay under British Maritime (military) Law and Uniform Commercial Code.
So Bush is really just a CEO.
==Where things got interesting for me was the ad campaign from BP that started to appear on TV, just prior to the Hurricane event at New Orleans etc. They were just talking, about the need to reduce dependency on oil and move towards hydrogen as well as a series about their use of natural gas being 40% of their business and their next steps forward regardless of the economic challenges.
Then I came across this bit of info (other sources available):
http://english.pravda.ru/comp/2002/05/06/28285.html
BP disclosed updated reserves figures for its Atlantis discovery in the Southern Green
Canyon region of the Gulf of Mexico. Based on data from additional appraisal drilling in the field, Atlantis is now believed to have reserves 575 million barrels of oil equivalent (boe), making it the third largest field discovered in the Gulf. BP's Thunder Horse field is the Gulf's largest oil and gas find. The company's initial estimates of Atlantis reserves were closer to three hundred million barrels.
"The updated reserve numbers reinforce the significance of our Atlantis discovery. It is a world-class find and another outstanding field in BP's deepwater inventory. The Gulf of Mexico Deepwater continues to grow as one of the most important growth basins in the world," said Dick Olver, BP Managing Director and Chief Executive, Exploration and Production.
-Atlantis is one of three BP operated properties under development in the Southern Green Canyon Region. Holstein, sanctioned in May 2001, and Mad Dog, sanctioned in December 2001, are also in development. Together, the three fields account for more than 1 billion barrels (gross).
---> Now that is intersting!
Note Atlantis was discovered in 1998. WIth that in mind this showed up as an odd event earlier this year.
Explosion at BP oil refinery kills 15
By Dan Roberts in New York
Published: March 23 2005 21:30 | Last updated: March 24 2005 19:30
The third largest oil refinery in the US was damaged by a large explosion on Wednesday, killing a number of employees and sending jitters through nervous financial markets.
The Texas City facility, owned by BP, normally processes 450,000 barrels of oil a day, and the threat of supply disruption sent oil prices in New York up more than 2 per cent to their highest level since 1984.
FBI dismisses claims of BP terror attack
DUBAI, March 24 (Reuters)
Published: March 24 2005 23:15 | Last updated: March 24 2005 23:15
Two Islamist groups have said they caused Wednesday’s explosion at a Texas oil refinery which killed 15 people but the U.S. FBI said there was no evidence of ”any criminal or terrorist activity”.
An unknown group, calling itself al Qaeda Organisation for Holy War in the United States of America, said it would issue a detailed statement and video of the attack later. The statement was posted on the Internet on Thursday.
--> I can only say that BP is standing out for me as part of a theme here with these varied stories relating to them in the heart of this Gulf of Mexico oil field extravaganza. Perhaps many more dots to connect.
Remember who George W Bush is really working for!
One finishing bit of funny association: from http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/
Chirac's eye problem(!!!),
looks like the end of president's career.
followed by:
Katrina relief
-->Eye problems,Eh?! lol
End of President's career?
Katrina Relief?
And lest we not forget:
Dictionary
2. Orleans - a long siege by the English was relieved by Joan of Arc in 1429
The Messenger 1999 movie, The Story of Joan of Arc.
A French connection?!
Something to ponder here about New Orleans!?
Might this be a rude awakening that is intended to have a great enough "shock and awe" to jolt the country, with immense anger and outrage, to make big change?
I hope a few of these points may be useful to you much better researchers out there than I.
Staying Tuned.. Eye on True O2
Breathe Truth
Richard said,
Oh, and one last little question: if everything is so on the "up and up' ... just where the HELL is Dick Cheny?!!
Where is Cheney? I have been wondering this for a couple of days. Is he sick? Is he in the underground bunker or did he tell dubya to handle this on his own?
Wow, apologies for bulky post!
wanted to not be vague.
Jasgrave333! Hey brother, I hope your family will be o.k.
Watch for the 33's!!!! even in my post.
Anonymous said...
question... did anyone here notice,on the very first morning after the 17th st levee breached. the collapse happened backwards! i have the footage taped. a news copter flying over looking down at the breach. the broken edges are leaning into the canal,as apposed to toward the house's that were flooded. it's very odd,to say the least. explosives anyone? and on the wrong side if the levee!
Not explosives, the levee collapsing from underneath the surface of the water due to the incredible pressure.
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You should immediately send a copy of that tape to Alex Jones so he can put it up on the web.
Here's his office address;
Alex Jones
3001 S. Lamar, Suite 100
Austin, Texas 78704
Here's his email;
tips@infowars.com
That tape tends to support a lot of rumors on the net that the levees might have been blown up with shaped charges, just like the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City and the World Trade Center on 9/11.
Like I said, get everybody in the same room, and pandimonieum will break out as geeks of all types and ages try to gladitor it out. Root Beer and 7up will be on tap as well as scabble and boogle. Someone will break out a compas a a square and all hell will break loose like a viking in a tuu-tuu...
I say the hell with the man! did a really deep hole and luanch your RV sized space thing-ama-thonger out to space with copressed air before it gets to bad and they scramble space travel... Beacuse really, such a thing really isnt that hard to do, that is, luanch something into space with ... air ... :-) You just need a big enough tube. Huh - I wonder how many rich science guys out there are doing that now? :-)
Sword
My understading drawn from several media reports is that the levees literally eroded from the inside due to the intial storm surge and the continual buffeting of the water in the lake.
My understading drawn from several media reports is that the levees literally eroded from the inside due to the intial storm surge and the continual buffeting of the water in the lake.
Sorry that was me.
To those of you blaming Bush,
Go get a job with a large corporation or a government agency, work for 5 years there, then re-think your conspiracy theories.
Large organizations are filled with human beings with conflicting notions of what is right, conflicting egos, and various emotional problems. It's a mess. It's amazing anything gets done anywhere, much less that we are the most productive nation on the planet.
In Louisiana, throw in the fact that it is is the home of the oldest mafia family in the US, is mobbed up to the gills, New Orleans is a welfare and patronage city, and it is no surprise that post-Katrina life in Louisiana is a mess.
You are so sure that Bush and the Feds are to blame for everything that it's enough to undermine your valid points.
Get back to Reality -- get that job with a big organization, learn about cooperating with others and you'll know what I'm talking about. None of this required a conspiracy to happen!!
Puh-lease: SNAFU
Sincerely,
Alice
(My previous registration seems gone, or I wouldn't have posted as Anonymous.)
>No disrespect, Richard, but has anyone bothered to look at the HISTORY of hurricane tracks over the past three decades in the Atlantic? There have been MANY seemingly unusual tracks, year after year.<
Actually, I have.
Until Ivan AND Jeanne last year ... within a few DAYS of one another! ... no hurricanes -- except ONE back in the 1950's -- had "looped the loop" ... in ALL the previous history of tracking hurricanes!
What will it take to even "consider" the (apparently) impossible ...?
Until it's YOUR family ... driven from their home, forced to become refugees IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY?
Pre-planning ... and pre-THINKING.
And ... asking the RIGHT QUESTIONS ... while we still have time. :)
A commodity demonstrably seriously LACKING in New Orleans ... before last week.
Sword, Hi
Air?! o.k., we see such kinds of application even at the amusement parks now. So, how big of a tube, might someone need for the ol RV, Freddy Flintstone camper?
Could enough compressed air launch some serious weight into orbit?
gotta go for now.. sleep EDT late.
It's pretty interesting how Bush and his cohorts seem to use the same spiel all the time..
..we couldn't predict 9/11
..no one could predict Katrina's damage
Also just saw Hannity and Colmes' hatchet job on Senator David Vittor, one of Bush's staunchest critics.. they brought up research that had been done (by FEMA themselves!) This is in June 2002 that predicted DOWN TO THE SMALLEST DETAILS of what would happen if a Cat 5 storm made it to NOLA.. people stranded in their homes, thousands dead from flooding, anarchy and looting.. instead of using this to critique the Feds, they then proceeded to say "Senator, you knew about these predictions, you had three years to act on them.. how can you berate Bush when you yourself failed to act on this info?" The Senator was stunned then Colmes came on and said, "That's all the time we have for this segment, next up.." Yeah fair and balanced, that's Fox. Hey Rupert, why are all your main anchors white and the assignment reporters black and hispanic? Is that fair and balanced?
What a great idea.. use the hurricane to wipe out the blacks, or at least scatter them (remember the Garden and most of the affluent areas were relatively unscathed) so the Dems' don't have as many nasty voters in LA, now we can go in, wipe out the ghettos and gentrify the whole damned city! Win win for the rich and elite, and we get another excuse to raise gas prices!
Robert said...
>>Richard Said:
>>"Notice how some folks will REFUSE to face reality ... even when it's introduced as the proverbial "Act of Congress?" :)
>>Hopefully, Robert, you live far inland .... "<<
>We are merely in an upcycle in tropical development.
>Just because their studying and trying to "modify our weather" does not mean they have. Most importantly, if they COULD modify our weather they would have done it to weaken the damn storm!
>Of course, that's if I even understand the hyperdimensional hurricane theory.<
Ah, to have the certainty of youth .... :)
Have you even heard of Henry Kissinger's famed statement, which he actually wrote down in "Foreign Affairs": about the the billions of "useless eaters ..." on the planet?
What if someone didn't WANT to "weaken the damn storm ...?
Anonymous said...
> To those of you blaming Bush,<
> Go get a job with a large corporation or a government agency, work for 5 years there, then re-think your conspiracy theories. <
All the big organizaion jobs have been outsourced and moved off-shore. This trend shows no signs of stopping.
I think that what we REALLY need is a country where CEO's are willing to work for $5 a day.
George Bush is not a person, but a corporation masquerading as an individual. Alot of shady people in that organization ...
:-)
Alice, Hi
My suggestion is that George Bush is not necessarily the one truly in charge.
There is higher level of authority over him.
He is an icon, a figure head, only for a period of time.
Like a hurricane there is lots of "stearing" going on.
And on the other hand, if not, it will still be a huge failing of a Superpower first world nation like America.
The anger of this nation is well founded and commentary even from the likes of the BBC shows the view from many other places is as equally shocked at the mess this is.
Barbara Bush, dubya's mommy, was at the Astrodome and she had some interesting things to say...
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001054719
The audio can be found here....
http://www.phxnews.com/fullstory.php?article=25048
I've been a Bush supporter but man oh man I'm really starting to rethink it.
IonTruO2 said...
Sword, Hi
"Air?! o.k., we see such kinds of application even at the amusement parks now. So, how big of a tube, might someone need for the ol RV, Freddy Flintstone camper?
Could enough compressed air launch some serious weight into orbit?"
Heheh Did you ever have one of those water rockets when you where a kid? How about that nerf missile luancher? What about estes rockets?
And always keep in mind, you wouldn't build a structure, you'd dig it...
How much compressed air does it take to get to orbit? Is it just speed vs. gravity? Imagine a drive in teller at a bank - remeber the tubes? Just think longer, bigger, and escape volocity fast!
Hehehehe C'mon even darpa has a sense of humor....
Sword
One last input...
Its all in the little things!
Check this article:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/research/1282151.html
About the demise of New Orleans, published SEPT. 11th, 2001!!!!!!!
This is a world of much more clever thinking than most people believe. The lowest common denominator is not anywhere close to the leading edge of Humankind's intellectual consciousness. The norm or simplest notion is way way down the laddder. Look up, think bigger.
jojens said...
>Check out the excellant view of the pentagram in Hurricane Isabel of 2003!!
http://www.tpc.ncep.noaa.gov/HAW2/english/history.shtml
VERY pronounced!!<
As we analyzed in GREAT detail ... in 2004:
http://www.enterprisemission.com/hyper1.html
And to add insult to injury.. taken straight from
http://www.fema.gov/register.htm
" Technical Requirements:
The Online registration requires Microsoft's Internet Explorer 6.0 or above. If you do not have Internet Explorer 6.0 or higher, you may still be able to access the Individual Assistance Center where you can check the status of your application and update your information."
Translation: if you're a pinko with a Macintosh, or use a browser that's harder to tap into cookies with so we can see who you REALLY are, you can't get any aid from us.
Hello All,
Good grief, where did all the civility go? And i;m talking about this blog!
For those wondering where good ole Cheney is...or should I say, was suppopsed to be, well, that would be Calgary Alberta CANADA. Canada?
Yes, folks. its all about the oil kids...
He has since sent his apologies to the Primeier saying he'll come back. AND I BET HE WILL- theres more potential oil in Alberta than in all of Saudi Arabia. Wouldn't you rather buy close to home???
Oh well-on to the weather
For anyone that cares I happen to live on the Gulf Coast. In Gulf Breeze florida (yes, ufo place) just outside of Pensacola. Now just about this time last year we got hammered buy the 2nd costliest hurricaine since Andrew. WE were the last benchmark. Ivan has come pretty darn close to destroying this place in a lot of ways.
I rode Katrina out at home-had that baby budged anymore east, i doubt I would be writing this now.
What I'm getting at is this. All this weather control DIRECTLY affects me, my way of life, my kids future, and its being played out IN MY BACK FRIGGIN YARD!!!!
Am I scared?-you better believe it. Pensacola is surrounded by no less than 4 (maybe 5) military bases. BIG ones. (Richard may be able to shine some light here).
We have major bases of Air Force, Navy and the Army all in 30 sq miles of my house. Was Ivan a "test balloon" of sorts- i think so.
So- to drag you people back to topic- THERE.
Oh, and one more thing,
We have NO GAS. NONE.
The situation is SO bad there is talk of CLOSING THE SCHOOLS because there's no deisel to run the busses. Cheney better get his assets back up to Calgary (where i was born and have my remaining relatives) in a hurry.
And a further PS to Richard,
I finally got my hands on a used copy of Monuments, have read it this week and am now better up to speed on this whole site.
Keep up the good work!
Scarlet
Mr. Hoagland
is it possible to develop something to counter such a weapon disguised as a natural phenomenon using hyperdimensional physics?
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Extract from WEATHER EZINE September 5, 2005 - www.PredictWeather.com
Hurricane Katrina
Hurricanes mostly form around full moon to last quarter because the Sun can heat the ocean to the required temperatures(26-28deg) more easily during that moon phase. Katrina is an example of this, forming on last quarter. From the planets’ point of view over New Orleans the Sun was opposite Uranus (the ‘hurricane breeder’) until the 31st and then started separating, just as the Moon on that day moved out of Cancer, a wet sign, into drier Leo which just brings heavy cloud. Opposition in astrology indicates major influence. Therefore, astrologically speaking, the hurricane should have eased by the 1st of September and in fact did. These extreme weather systems generally form as the moon crosses the equator. Not only was this the moon's position when Katrina formed, but also when Hurricane Camille in 1969 and before that the Chesapeake Bay hurricane in 1933 formed - and these two have been the previous two most destructive hurricanes to hit the region. Although hurricanes are formed on certain planet angles, each hurricane is different and each has its own peculiar set of angles. hence they all behave differently. For instance, Katrina didn’t regenerate and return, as sometimes they do. Examples: Hurricane Isabel (2003)underwent rapid intensification and was able to stay at the highest level a hurricane can reach for over 30 hours. Hurricane Charley(2004) fooled forecasters by not only rapidly intensifying, but also making a turn to the north and east much sooner than anticipated, which spared the city of Tampa, but devastated the Port Charlotte area on August 13. Hurricane Ivan (2004) formed at unusually low latitude, then rapidly developed into a Category-4 Hurricane during the Labor Day Weekend before briefly weakening to a Category-2 for a period then strengthening back to major hurricane status as it moved through the extreme Southern Windward Islands of Barbados and Grenada destroying 75 to 90 percent of all buildings on the island of Grenada. The storm then continued to re-energize and reach Category-5 status. Hurricane Emily (2004) ransacked the island of Grenada, which was still recovering from Hurricane Ivan. Emily then regained steam after losing its punch over the plateau of the Yucatan Peninsula, and made a final landfall as a major hurricane in Northeastern Mexico with winds of 125 mph.
So are there any more coming? For sure, as the hurrucane season is from June - December in that part of the world. Watch for another possible hurricane or new storm system in a few days' time, forming on 7 September, peaking on 9th and dissipating on 11th. The astrological reason would be that the Moon will be in Scorpio(destructive) and in opposition to Mars in Taurus(driving showers) with Uranus at midheaven at midnight on 9th. Mercury goes into opposition with Uranus, the hurricane/cyclone breeder, on September 7 and moves out of this conjunction on the 11th. Furthermore Mercury is contraparallel to the Sun(opposite declination around the ecliptic), creating extra heat. Later, on 14 September, Saturn and the Moon are in opposition, followed on September 17, 2005 by a perigee/full moon. This could set the scene for the formation another hurricane which this time may hit the East Coast.
Someone brought up the point that perhaps hurricane eyes from the 30's might have had pentagrams in them also.
I have wondered the same thing. I think that the strongest ones probably did have them, following
the HD signatures (thanks to enterprise.com) seen on other planets. For a look at what those
prior hurricanes did not have go to http://www.weatherwars.info/katrina.htm (as cited by RCH previously)
Look closely at those images and the punched out areas. These areas match the anomalous strike zones seen in
clouds all throughout the U.S. I have watched this 'energy input' above my head for a couple of years.
I've got news for those still skeptical that we can effect these systems, it's real and you can learn it for your self look above you on days where there are a lot of trails left by planes. A good beginner
place to start is looking for rippling (or acceleration ) patterns in clouds. Watch closely and you will
see these clouds appear (in too dry upper level air no less) and then disappear and re-appear. Look for rippling
that appears to go in several different directions, like a cross-hatching. The weather modification is being
used on a massive scale. weatherwars.info has great images and information on it. Some good articles and links on weather manipulation at Steve Quayle's site; stevequayle.com specifically http://www.stevequayle.com/News.alert/05_Weather_War/05_Weather.War.index.html
On the earthquake swarm located at jasgraves favorite number
known as the Obsedian Butte area (southeastern Salton Sea) these swarms have occurred in this area in the past.
They still stand out as peculiar especially when taken in context with it being thought to be a pluton, an arm
or protrusion from a deeply buried molten magma. It is about 20 miles long by four miles wide, is at least 1 to
2 miles thick. It lies within the upper 10,000 feet of the crust, and possibly as close as 4,000 miles from
the surface. The area of Obsedian Butte (33's) was listed as one of six most likely hot spots in U.S. for
future volcanism about 5 years ago on the USGS Volcanism website. One new trend on this latest swarm is that
the locals there are noting very foul smells. This might be a volcanic precursor or a subduction zone indicator.
Who is directing Hurricanes into the U.S. Who? ...
Bryan
Anonymous said...
>Mr. Hoagland
>Is it possible to develop something to counter such a weapon disguised as a natural phenomenon using hyperdimensional physics?<
Yes.
In fact, one of our sources SPECIFICALLY said that such a technology was used to divert Katrina toward the east at the last minute.
That effort (if it took place ...) turned out to totally DESTORY the entire Mississippi Coast, and inland about ten miles ... but it spared New Orleans--
Until the levees breached.
bubba hyde said...
>Barbara Bush, dubya's mommy, was at the Astrodome and she had some interesting things to say...
>http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001054719
>The audio can be found here....
>http://www.phxnews.com/fullstory.php?article=25048
>I've been a Bush supporter but man oh man I'm really starting to rethink it.<
Was that the one where she said of the folks 18,000 poor black folks stranded in the Astrodome (and I'm paraphrasing):
"These people have it better here than they've probably ever had it their lives ...."
Interesting mindset.
bubba hyde said...
My understading drawn from several media reports is that the levees literally eroded from the inside due to the intial storm surge and the continual buffeting of the water in the lake.
Sorry that was me.
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The thing that's got me suspcious about the levees breaking is something I heard on NBC news during the disaster. One of the reporters claimed a "secondary storm surge" knocked down the levee wall.
Now how does a secondary storm surge happen nearly 14 to 20 hours after the hurricane passes?
Since when do hurricanes make secondary storm surges, especially after they've long left the area?
Also why did the levee break 14 to 20 hours later instead of DURING the storm surge?
Either the reporter who mentioned the "secondary storm surge" was a complete idiot or a "cover story" was being put out about the levees breaking.
A "Secondary Storm Surge" is about as believeable as a "Magic Bullet".
richard c. hoagland said...
Was that the one where she said of the folks 18,000 poor black folks stranded in the Astrodome (and I'm paraphrasing):
"These people have it better here than they've probably ever had it their lives ...."
Interesting mindset.
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Well you know Richard, Barbara Bush doesn't want to waste her "beautiful mind" on the horrific images coming out of New Orleans.
Barbara Bush "Beautiful Mind" comment on Good Morning America on March 18th, 2003
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0429-11.htm
"Why should we hear about body bags and deaths," Barbara Bush said on ABC's "Good Morning America" on March 18, 2003. "Oh, I mean, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?"
Richard,
Yes it is.
bryansail said...
>On the earthquake swarm located at jasgraves favorite number
known as the Obsedian Butte area (southeastern Salton Sea) these swarms have occurred in this area in the past.
They still stand out as peculiar especially when taken in context with it being thought to be a pluton, an arm
or protrusion from a deeply buried molten magma. It is about 20 miles long by four miles wide, is at least 1 to
2 miles thick. It lies within the upper 10,000 feet of the crust, and possibly as close as 4,000 miles from
the surface. The area of Obsedian Butte (33's) was listed as one of six most likely hot spots in U.S. for
future volcanism about 5 years ago on the USGS Volcanism website. One new trend on this latest swarm is that
the locals there are noting very foul smells. This might be a volcanic precursor or a subduction zone indicator.
>Who is directing Hurricanes into the U.S. Who? ...
Bryan<
I'm concerned about this region of Southern California ... at 33 .... as I've noted earlier: the SAME HD technology which can enhance a tropical depression and turn it into a Cat 5 hurricane, can ALSO create shallow earthquakes and even move lava underground ....
Northridge, in hindsight, seems to have been a major test of this technology ... in an urban area. As did Kobe, Japan.
So, for anyone living near San Diego now ... be prepared to leave if these "pre-cursors" become stronger and more sustained ....
If "someone" is doing this, the SoCal area is a high value target -- by any measure.
Dear Mr. Hoagland and readers ! :-)
Joining those dots...I 'discovered' this short wave radio sound that I initially
thought was the Sun (this is a couple of years ago now).
The sound caught my attention as it seemed to be 'rotating'.
Here's the thread or just the mp3 recording of it if you want that:
http://www.humanity.free-online.co.uk/strange-radio-sound-sw-12point9-mhz.mp3
http://communities.anomalies.net/cgi-bin/bbs/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=62;t=000003;p=1#000022
...I looked at my local War Memorial the other day (WW2) and noticed it seemed
'lonely' there. This one has a beautiful sculpture of some kind of Goddess of
Justice (could it be Themis?)...with enormous wings and holding a branch of something.
I can't help but think that they would be ashamed that society has LET this happen
(fluoride...weather modification)...but niether can I 'over fight' if you see what
I mean ! "The Prisoner" (Patrick Mogowan...remember that?) comes to mind...with the
subconscious of humanity CREATING these 'abberations' to keep 'us' in check...
...Mr Hoagland..PLEASE..see the deeper angle on this...I think there are Jungian
archetypal processes at work here...Planet X...Forbidden Planet....Leviathon ?
In the UK anyway...something is at work 'back there'...and u know what us Bull-
dogs are like..when roused...WHEN roused :-)
djbarney
bubba hyde said...
>Richard,
>Yes it is.<
This is VERY interesting ....
Remember: one of the core predictions of the HD Model -- as applied to Consciousness -- is that "the good will get better ... and the bad will get worse."
An intriguing correlary is an effect akin to the movie "Liar, Liar": the truth will be more frequently blurted out of the subconscious, even by those DETERMINED to keep up the pretense ....
Again, interesting mindset revealed re Mrs. Bush -- regarding all those "poor, black people ..." huddled in the Astrodome "who have it better now."
This is why I'm also considering that what we're seeing in the whole New Orleans Katrina charade is how a lot of people REALLY feel about "poor, black folks" ... FORCED into revealing their true behavior ... despite their past attempts to be "politically correct."
If this model is correct, we should see MORE highly "revealing" comments and behavior in the coming weeks and months ... as "events" continue to accelerate.
"These people have it better here than they've probably ever had it their lives ...." -Barbara Bush
"Let them eat cake." -Marie Antoinette
I just hope this most recent show of negligent naievete doesn't have equally disastrous consequences as the latter.
DarkWood
crypt0 from last thread (near the end): "Goro is a great story-teller, in fact, this past winter, I invited him to contribute to a 60 page article that I wrote for Enterprise Mission. The problem is, Goro thinks that people who suggest publishing up-front are "in on it". Mentioning RCH and TEM only made matters worse and reasoning with him was futile, so, I dropped the idea. (still have the e-mails though)"
I was pretty sure who you were when I was reading your comments here before and it's now clear you were/are indeed "that guy" :). Now, what you wrote above is BS and you know it. You contacted me, yes. But you didn't invite me to "contribue to a 60 page article that [you] wrote for Enterprise Mission." No, you showed up SUDDENLY and SUDDENLY tried to talk me into co-writing A BOOK. A BOOK! And you didn't even try to introduce yourself or anything. Of course I went "WTF?". It was just wierd, man. And I had only kind things to say about RCH/TEM when you brought that up, so you should make that clear.
Now that we're communicating again, I should ask you - Where the hell is that "TEM article" that was supposed be posted on TEM about MONHTS AGO? You clearly indicated that the posting of your article was imminent. Where the hell is it? And you're now accusing me of having been unreasonable with you? Come on, now. You were/are behaving VERY strange.
I would also like to take this opportunity to ask RCH - Do you really know "crypt0," and were/are you really planning to publish his article on TEM?
thanks...
bryansail: Those satellite pictures clearly have the usual digital censoring effects. Where it's pointed to look at by the arrows on that site telling that's those geometric structures are caused by massive energy of some weapons... well, they should have looked closer because I bet that those ARE the weapons, the devices are there. Which kind of devices you wonder ? Well, they might be spacecrafts, actually hyper-dimensional capable spacecrafts... think about that. Either those spacecrafts have weapons able to create small black-holes like things between dimensions OR their engines can easily cause that and be used like weapons.
There are clear digital censoring features that can be seen there just like on every satellite visual data of any hurricane that has an anomalous eye.
goro said...
>>crypt0 from last thread (near the end): "Goro is a great story-teller, in fact, this past winter, I invited him to contribute to a 60 page article that I wrote for Enterprise Mission. The problem is, Goro thinks that people who suggest publishing up-front are "in on it". Mentioning RCH and TEM only made matters worse and reasoning with him was futile, so, I dropped the idea. (still have the e-mails though)"<<
>I was pretty sure who you were when I was reading your comments here before and it's now clear you were/are indeed "that guy" :). Now, what you wrote above is BS and you know it. You contacted me, yes. But you didn't invite me to "contribue to a 60 page article that [you] wrote for Enterprise Mission." No, you showed up SUDDENLY and SUDDENLY tried to talk me into co-writing A BOOK. A BOOK! And you didn't even try to introduce yourself or anything. Of course I went "WTF?". It was just wierd, man. And I had only kind things to say about RCH/TEM when you brought that up, so you should make that clear.
>Now that we're communicating again, I should ask you - Where the hell is that "TEM article" that was supposed be posted on TEM about MONHTS AGO? You clearly indicated that the posting of your article was imminent. Where the hell is it? And you're now accusing me of having been unreasonable with you? Come on, now. You were/are behaving VERY strange.
>I would also like to take this opportunity to ask RCH - Do you really know "crypt0," and were/are you really planning to publish his article on TEM?
>Thanks...<
First, you're THAT "Goro?" Fascinating .... :)
I've been a (distant) fan of your ... for years.
Yes, I know "Crypto" (who the hell ever thought it was a good idea to create fictional identities on the Internet? Surely, ANOTHER "black ops" project ...). :) :)
Anyway, I DID invite "Crypto" to organize his (considerable) knowledge of "the political secrets concealed in 'ordinary' maps" for Enterprise -- triggered by the fascinating hints of "deeper levels" behind the very successful (and somewhat multi-layered) film, "National Treasure."
That it has been delayed is TOTALLY my fault; I simply have had too much to do, not enough "staff" to do it ... and the "timeliness" of the film's debut eventually passed ... as we were sending versions back and forth for editing to "get it right." [You know how anal I can be on THAT .... :) ]
anyway, we WILL be publishing something on this crucial topic from "Crypto" in the future (if he still wants to, of course ...) -- even if it's initially just a guest "Captain's Blog." :)
I think you guys doing a book together on this subject would be great! This conversation NEEDS more "informed voices" -- and I am appreciative that both of you have chosen to participate in the present conversation taking place on Enterprise ....
One thing I can guarantee you: a LOT of folks are watching (which is why all these "noisy negativitists" have suddenly showed up) .... :)
To all those pro-Democratic party '68 communistic/socialistic supporters that keep attacking Bush and the NeoCon trying to say that they are the evil ones and the enemy... you either have a reason to say that that's far from good or you can't see what's going on and what happened in the last 30 years approx.
During the Clinton era the socialistic/communistic alliance called "The Thing 2" was estabilished by left-parties worldwide which joined forces and practically announced a "we are at war against any Right Wing party and we will rule this World" claim. All happened between 1993 and year 2000... In less than 8 years the balance between pro-communism type guys and pro-capitalism ones got smashed by the will of those that in 1968 started their masterplan to rule democratic capitalistic countries by replacing true capitalism with a fake one and by cancelling moral values and the human family concept. And there are other hidden forces, non-human ones behind them and their plan...
This doesn't automatically say that Right Wing parties, the NeoCons and such must be the good ones and whoever non-human group is helping them behind the scenes has to be good. It's just a matter of interests.
The Left Wing is allied with those that plan to conquer. During the Clinton and "The Thing 2" group era the communistic core group inside Left Wing parties managed to replace and kick out any old-democratic socialist minded people and actually turned the Democratic party in the US and other Left Wing parties worldwide in a communistic war machine with which they managed to replace key people in key roles in our society worldwide.
What I can tell you is that despite they might do some things that might not look good at all, the non-human groups behind Right Wing and NeoCons are not the enemy and are not blood seekers, they don't want to conquer. But the ones behind the Left Wing and Bin Laden/muslim terrorist groups which have another non-human group supporting them have joined forces in the past to conquer the world and once they will have annihilated the Right Wing and the non-humans supporters behind them then they will accellerate their regime estabilishment plan that's currently going on already and they will reveal their true power and aspect with the human population being all happy to be their slaves....
For whatever hidden reasons the non-humans supporting Right Wing parties/NeoCon key people worldwide actually want to help and stop those other non-humans groups doesn't matter, right now it's the only chance for humanity to stop what's going on and mantain its freedom before it's too late. But take into account that the Left-Wing non-humans groups have infiltrated Right-Wing ones in order to destroy them from the inside... and their human supported people are the ones that usually encourage to stay quiet and not counter-attack and to be kind and such... nothing better to destroy your enemy than having one or more trojan horses inside it promoting to be kind and don't counter-attack to terrorist attacks and such.....
Anonymous Sword said:
"How much compressed air does it take to get to orbit?"
Actually, you'd use hydrogen so the flow in the tube would stay subsonic.
You won't get to orbit, but you'd be going fast enough to light your SCRAM jet and fly close enough to orbit for government work without hauling a tank of oxygen up through an ocean of oxygen...
aredo said...
To all those pro-Democratic party '68 communistic/socialistic supporters that keep attacking Bush and the NeoCon trying to say that they are the evil ones and the enemy... you either have a reason to say that that's far from good or you can't see what's going on and what happened in the last 30 years approx.
During the Clinton era the socialistic/communistic alliance called "The Thing 2" was estabilished by left-parties worldwide which joined forces and practically announced a "we are at war against any Right Wing party and we will rule this World" claim.
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The phony paradigm called "Left/Right" was set up years ago by the Illuminati as a control mechanism to keep people at each others throats so they couldn't see who the real enemy is; the meglomanicial Globalist controllers who want to eliminate 95 percent of the human race(according to quotes by Ted Turner and Prince Phillip of England).
People are seeing through it now which is why those who are still trapped in the phony Left/Right paradigm as well as the phony-Left(Michael Moore) and phony-Right(Rush Limbaugh) gatekeepers who are desparately propping it up are rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
It's not about Left vs Right anymore, it comes back down to the original paradigms of Good vs Evil or Right and Wrong.
Just some news behing the news from Newsmax
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Mayor Nagin: Gov. Blanco Delayed Rescue
After days of blaming the federal officials for not responding quickly enough to the Hurricane Katrina crisis, New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin praised President Bush on Monday - and charged that Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco had delayed federal rescue efforts by 24-hours.
"I'm so happy that the president came down here," Nagin said of Bush's Friday visit to Louisiana in an interview with CNN. "He came down and saw it, and he put a general on the field. His name is General Honore. And when he hit the field, we started to see action."
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But Nagin had harsh words for his state's leaders, telling CNN: "What the state was doing, I don't frigging know. But I tell you, I am pissed. It wasn't adequate."
The New Orleans Democrat said he urged Bush to meet privately with Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco during the visit. The meeting took place aboard Air Force One, he said.
After reviewing the crisis with Gov. Blanco, Bush summoned Nagin for a private chat - where, according to Nagin, Bush explained: "Mr. Mayor, I offered two options to the governor. I said . . . I was ready to move today. The governor said she needed 24 hours to make a decision."
Reacting to the governor's footdragging, Nagin lamented: "It would have been great if we could of left Air Force One, walked outside, and told the world that we had this all worked out."
"It didn't happen, and more people died.
aredo said...
>To all those pro-Democratic party '68 communistic/socialistic supporters that keep attacking Bush and the NeoCon trying to say that they are the evil ones and the enemy... you either have a reason to say that that's far from good or you can't see what's going on and what happened in the last 30 years approx.<
A general rule of thumb disctates that people who claim to rule the world, or claim that desire are invariably patsys and attention seekers. Are you sure you are taking that "rule the world" in proper context ? It served as way to be anti-war and still have a super-power awareness.
Looking at the White house, haven't you noticed a parade of corporate puppets, millionaires and megalomaniacs ?
What President was the last Man of the People ?
In the US, the power behind the curtains has always been disguised in the media under a veil of Wall Street PR ... but America was always a commercial venture. The hidden hand of Imperialism IS the hidden hand of capitalism, which needs to grow, or die.
It's Industry versus the Individual. Concentrated private power is highly paranoid it will lose its special position. They fail upwards, stumbling into Executive positions while insulated behind trust funds (New Deal), in control of corporations that are Immortal and sadistic sociopaths ... but that's not enough.
They want to control, steer and channel the largesse of taxes from the middle and lower classes ... and they water their own lawns first.
How many kids graduate high school knowing basic Economics ? None. It's really not that difficult, but it is learned in the street along with sex and drugs. Never mind High School graduates, most scientists can't perform the most basic 'political' calculations. Economics is filling out forms for research money and patents. Science serves commerce.
The profiteers of war, drugs and the suburban economy got rich through trade, then control of the trade routes ... then railroads, then the Oil Economy. What is next ?
Nothing ...
Millionaires and puppets of Industry have been tolerated, so long as nobody goes hungry or dies ... but they are out of ideas and that's why we're witnessing the elites pulling up the ladders and ratcheting up of prices at the pump.
Gullability is something to exploit, therefore, gullable voters must be created through cheap cheap schools producing workers that can memorize dates & facts (without context) but incapable of understanding why interest rates are what they are, where our tax dollars go.
Let's see if Dubya's Team is willing/able to do anything more than Press conferences and photo opportunities. Sound byte warfare and jingoism can win elections, but can it carry out disaster relief ?
I bet in New Orleans among the humans' street gangs stealing, killing and raping there is something else that needed full deployment of special assault squad and other hidden unknown forces in order to stop them...
Something non-human is active in the area among human-alien hybrids. Bio-Weapons left by the spacecrafts which generated Katrina.... maybe lifeforms and/or devices from another verse or dimension...
crypt0: It's obvious that you are a Democratic/Left-Wing supporter. Your statements want to look good and the truth but you fail to say all the truth on purpose and the simplistic approach of yours is just needed to blame the Right Wing in any case. This is what should worry people instead.
I can only see an army of Democratic supporters everywhere that's doing anything in order to re-gain the power they have lost as the last elections in the US proved.
It's a fact that the currently communistic Left Wing it's a worldwide regime controlling businesses, multinational groups, the news and media networks, the press, university/schools and justice institutions.
Practically everything it's controlled by "Left Wing aficionados" and the once-was a balance between Left and Right is there no more and it wasn't in the last 15 years at least.
Richard,
a bundle of thoughts.
1. I wonder If I could tap into that. 100,000,000 (over ten years)?
the answer is of course "NO", im sure its already been porkbarreled out to some of George's friends.
Even with a good grant writer. The answer would be no.
2. How does one "target practice" with something like a hurricaine?
I could see, doing damage, with a super thunderstorm, drought, earthquake, or ultraviolet leak from the ozone layer. , but what happens, especially in the early days, if one misses? and hits something, like errrr.. can we say a Major City? I doupt, that money would, or could, go to answering lawsuits.
And with a "good" miss, we (or someone else, could devistate a small, medium, or large country, then we no longer have "experimentation" but in all senses of the word, "total war".
that doesn't sound pretty to me.
but who am I? No one who could qualify for a 10 billion $ (a year) grant, thats for sure.
I say, put the 10 billion, into biulding up our education system, than what ever is left, build up the world's education system, and maybe there would be more sites like yours, cropping up in the next generation, and less people willing to ride out force 5 hurricaines.
3. Any open debate as to the long term effect on our earth?
Maybe we should put this money into a great big sign in the Texas Desert with 20 mile letters in the sand
"Just Kill Us Now"
Maybe some astroid, or alien species, will read the sign, and give us an intellegent answer to that.
I really hope these guys are just talking "computer simulations.. texans?, yea right...
4. anything else? Im just praying right now, that the amount of "refugees" that left New Orleans in busses, are the same amount, of people that arrived in the camps.. with the cutting off of total communications, and no visible help arriving, (except with what the press was allowed to see) (what they saw were a bunch of trucks), sounds like they were about to "handle" the problem, when the press got in the way, and also, the public in charge began coming up with medium , and long range plans for the population of New Orleans.
Face it, you gotta love these guys, they are funnier villians, than mr. Evil,
Where is Austin Powers when we need him?
This whole thing reminds me of the time the DEA almost distroyed all of the higher plant life on planet earth, with a genetically modified fungus, designed to wipe out only marijauna, it was foiled, when they couldn't keep it a secret, in the final stages, before deployment, and the circle of professionals involved grew too large.
Hope you can dig up some more facts on this, Richard, and friends,
Charles Kafka
Richard,
I couldn't figure out. One net buddy, (he found me, ) kept on saying that yellow park was going to blow. He was getting real "feelings" about this.
Im personally not getting anything on that.
In the last week or so, I have recieved two more, typists have commented on it, (I have untill now, not passed this bit on, with no "internal" confermation. )
Just wanted to add this in, and maybe a message to the top.
people sitting on a stack of dynamite, shouldn't throw matches.
sorry, to pass this along on an open channel, but I don't "do" faxes. And I believe this is, "a need to know" situation.
charles kafka
Dan Perez,
you were saying:
It's not about Left vs Right anymore, it comes back down to the original paradigms of Good vs Evil or Right and Wrong.
--> This apparent struggle of the opposites is foolishly commited in the mechanism that is duality, yet we are not actually bound to it, we just "think" we are.
So this Caine vs Abel, Aku vs Draku, Alpha vs Omega, Hatfields vs Mccoys, a tit for tat, of conflicted spiritual stupidity is reaching its peak.
Maybe what they need is "Seven Brides for Seven Brothers"!
The schism must be resolved, this world is capable of functioning a heck of a lot better.
Richard H,
I'm sorry, I was responding to the other guy who is posting anonymously and signing his signature as "Captain" at the end of each post. He's the one who says he's from New Orleans and blames the media only for the public response to the rescue effort. I'm still waiting to hear from him how the media delayed FEMA's arrival for several days. That last post was not directed to you at all.
I know some people call you "Captain" here (as in captin of the enterprise), sorry for the misunderstanding.
Spacechip, Hi
You said:
Anonymous Sword said:
"How much compressed air does it take to get to orbit?"
Actually, you'd use hydrogen so the flow in the tube would stay subsonic.
You won't get to orbit, but you'd be going fast enough to light your SCRAM jet and fly close enough to orbit for government work without hauling a tank of oxygen up through an ocean of oxygen...
6/9/05 4:32 AM
--> Actually that opening question was from me to Sword. Following his post here:
Like I said, get everybody in the same room, and pandimonieum will break out as geeks of all types and ages try to gladiator it out. Root Beer and 7up will be on tap as well as scabble and boogle. Someone will break out a compass a a square and all hell will break loose like a viking in a tuu-tuu...
I say the hell with the man! dig a really deep hole and luanch your RV sized space thing-ama-thonger out to space with compressed air before it gets to bad and they scramble space travel... Beacuse really, such a thing really isnt that hard to do, that is, luanch something into space with ... air ... :-) You just need a big enough tube. Huh - I wonder how many rich science guys out there are doing that now? :-)
Sword
5/9/05 11:01 PM
I followed with:
IonTruO2 said...
Sword, Hi
"Air?! o.k., we see such kinds of application even at the amusement parks now. So, how big of a tube, might someone need for the ol RV, Freddy Flintstone camper?
Could enough compressed air launch some serious weight into orbit?"
His reply here:
Heheh Did you ever have one of those water rockets when you where a kid? How about that nerf missile luancher? What about estes rockets?
And always keep in mind, you wouldn't build a structure, you'd dig it...
How much compressed air does it take to get to orbit? Is it just speed vs. gravity? Imagine a drive in teller at a bank - remember the tubes? Just think longer, bigger, and escape volocity fast!
Hehehehe C'mon even darpa has a sense of humor....
Sword
5/9/05 11:29 PM
SO spacechip ,this might be just some speculative banter, with a slice of humour between us. Yet, I feel that Sword may have some valuable insights that may come from insider knowledge, somewhat hinted by him earlier. Maybe not, and thats o.k., because even basic considerations and speculation can bear fruit. If he is not speaking from a "sensitive" position that has some risk for him, and he is just being creative and metaphorical, it will show in quick time.
Final keys to consider:
Heheh Did you ever have one of those water rockets when you where a kid? How about that nerf missile luancher? What about test rockets?
And always keep in mind, you wouldn't build a structure, you'd dig it... <---------!!!!!
and: - remember the tubes? Just think longer, bigger, and escape velocity fast!
--> maglev launch anybody?
Not much traction with the abuse
September 6, 2005
The vultures of the venomous left are attacking on two fronts, first that the president didn't do what the incompetent mayor of New Orleans and the pouty governor of Louisiana should have done, and didn't, in the early hours after Katrina loosed the deluge on the city that care and good judgment forgot. Ray Nagin, the mayor, ordered a "mandatory" evacuation a day late, but kept the city's 2,000 school buses parked and locked in neat rows when there was still time to take the refugees to higher ground. The bright-yellow buses sit ruined now in four feet of dirty water. Then the governor, Kathleen Blanco, resisted early pleas to declare martial law, and her dithering opened the way for looters, rapists and killers to make New Orleans an unholy hell. Gov. Haley Barbour did not hesitate in neighboring Mississippi, and looters, rapists and killers have not turned the streets of Gulfport and Biloxi into killing fields.
The drumbeat of partisan ingratitude continues even after the president flooded the city with National Guardsmen from a dozen states, paratroopers from Fort Bragg and Marines from the Atlantic and the Pacific. The flutter and chatter of the helicopters above the ghostly abandoned city, some of them from as far away as Singapore and averaging 240 missions a day, is eerily reminiscent of the last days of Saigon. Nevertheless, Sen. Mary Landrieu, who seems to think she's cute when she's mad, even threatened on national television to punch out the president -- a felony, by the way, even as a threat. Mayor Nagin, who you might think would be looking for a place to hide, and Gov. Blanco, nursing a bigtime snit, can't find the right word of thanks to a nation pouring out its heart and emptying its pockets. Maybe the senator should consider punching out the governor, only a misdemeanor.
The race hustlers waited for three days to inflame a tense situation, but then set to work with their usual dedication. The Revs. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, our self-appointed twin ambassadors of ill will, made the scene as soon as they could, taking up the coded cry that Katrina was the work of white folks, that a shortage of white looters and snipers made looting and sniping look like black crime, that calling the refugees "refugees" was an act of linguistic racism. A "civil rights activist" on Arianna Huffington's celebrity blog even floated the rumor that the starving folks abandoned in New Orleans had been forced to eat their dead -- after only four days. New Orleans has a reputation for its unusual cuisine, but this tale was so tall that nobody paid it much attention. Neither did anyone tell the tale-bearer to put a dirty sock in it.
aredo said...
crypt0: It's obvious that you are a Democratic/Left-Wing supporter. Your statements want to look good and the truth but you fail to say all the truth on purpose and the simplistic approach of yours is just needed to blame the Right Wing in any case. This is what should worry people instead..."
My $0.33Cents
SO Who do you want; STALIN or HITLER?
LEFT OR RIGHT EH?
Both were freaking evil and both were the EXTREMES of BOTH SIDES...
Let me just illustrate the Basics...
LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOUR
LOVE THE TRUE GOD MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE...
WHO GIVES A FLYING HOOT ABOUT LEFT OR RIGHT WING?
EVIL/GOOD
LIGHT/DARK
What more is NEEDED if WE WERE LOVING OUR NEIGHBOURS AND LOVING THE TRUE GOD???
THIS IS THE FUNDAMENTAL TRUTH...
And Richard, I'm totally on and understand the HD Liar, Liar, principle, imagine and YES IT WILL GET MORE pronounced, probably EXPONENTIALLY...
The OLD Man FROM Scene 24, got it exactly right with the Monty Python sketch from the HOLY GRAIL...
Man on bridge with a QUESTION for each night seeking the grail, only a TRUE heart, could Cross, interesting eh...? ;)
interesting times, staying STUNED...
Morning all, having breakfast, going to catchup proper...
IonTru02, thanks Bro, missed you too... this blog is growing quickly again... will catchup properly at the office...
Richard C. Hoagland said...
bubba hyde said...
>Barbara Bush, dubya's mommy, was at the Astrodome and she had some interesting things to say...
>http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001054719
>The audio can be found here....
>http://www.phxnews.com/fullstory.php?article=25048
>I've been a Bush supporter but man oh man I'm really starting to rethink it.<
Was that the one where she said of the folks 18,000 poor black folks stranded in the Astrodome (and I'm paraphrasing):
"These people have it better here than they've probably ever had it their lives ...."
Interesting mindset.
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I don't want to dwell on this stuff TOO much, but I couldn't resist interjecting here and directing your attention to the following link:
http://www.bettybowers.com/isbushgay.html
Go to the bottom of the page to the photo of the boy with the quote in the colored box next to it purporting to be from Barbara Bush in 1954. (Wonder who the boy is?) - Mindset? What MIND set?
p.s. PLEASE don't ask me how I EVER stumbled onto that website!
Goro, Hello its nice to meet you!
Richard H replied to you earlier:
First, you're THAT "Goro?" Fascinating .... :)
I've been a (distant) fan of yours ... for years.
---> I learned of your work and your site from a dear friend in Toronto, Canada. Challenging stuff to grok at times yet I feel the truth in much of your presentation and I follow your posts and insights.
Keep up the good work! Thanks for your contact here!
Wasn't it from "The Keys of Enoch"; 'and in this time, the wicked will act wickedly and the pure will purify themselves'
Amplification-- one premise will extinguish(times up!) and one will sustainably transcend(7up!).
Reception and response at HEART or be recycled and stirred back into the pot.
Have to go and give food and heart love to the horses(good non-humans).
will TUNE with all later..
Peace Crew.
jasgrave333: Stalin and Hitler were both socialists! There has been no Right Wing regime in history, all regimes and dictatorships were Left-Wing minded, socialists and communists with different names and similar behaviours and goals.
True capitalism and Right Wing people never estabilished any regimes.
You know I think Its Real Estate Developers.
Brother Jeb is a Broker/developer.
actually the nazi's
were
nationalist / socialist
we have
republican / Democrat
only the names have been change
to protect the guily
it is two sides of the same coin.
also were is the blood drive.
that proceeded 9-11.
where did the all that blood go.
was it a sacrifice to the beast.
You see it just goes to prove my point, I've never VOTED in my life and know really very little about the structure of politics;
"aredo said...
jasgrave333: Stalin and Hitler were both socialists! There has been no Right Wing regime in history, all regimes and dictatorships were Left-Wing minded, socialists and communists with different names and similar behaviours and goals.
True capitalism and Right Wing people never estabilished any regimes.
6/9/05 7:41 AM"
I do see that MAN has FAILED AT EVERY LEVEL, Power CORRUPTS, and you know the rest...
THERE DOES NOT EXIST ONE Politcal Solution to any of this... It's obvious, MONEY EVENTUALLY Corrupts, POWER Eventually corrupts...corruption eventually corrupts...
Thanks for that insight, I really didn't understand the Socialist Philosophy on NAZI'sm...
However, DIDN'T Fasciscm turn into EXTREME RIGHT WING?
I guess I'm talking about the U.K. Skin heads, that were originally part of a Soul/Reggae/Ska movement, but then was hijacked by a FASCIST FAR RIGHT WING (Racist) party, the NATIONAL FRONT
What is the KEY difference between FASCISM and SOCIALISM?
Aren't they just two sides OF THE SAME COIN?
QuesionS qUESTIONs QuEsTiOnS...
Learning to "off the pig", as we used to say back in the 60's
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/
BEATING THE COMM JAMMERS
There are methods to greatly reduce the effects of said jamming.
This has to be, in it's nature, a bit technical to get you to understand how to get there from here.
There are a couple of ways to raise the ratio of the desired signal yet attenuate the offending signal.
The most desired is of course using a very directional antenna aimed at the desired station, but in a typical field emergency situation, the operators are likely using a dipole antenna strung between whatever supports they have available.
For the broadband or direct on operating frequency jamming, add a second antenna broadside to the offending transmitter (or suspected area), take the energy from this antenna and using coaxial cable of certain length (this will depend on the distance from the extra antenna to the original antenna, relative to the jamming station), the cable is cut to a length that, when both cables are brought into a "T" connector into the radio, the signal from the jamming transmitter is brought into the circuit at 180 degrees out of phase to the signal being also received at the original antenna from the jamming transmitter, canceling out to a great degree, the energy from the jamming transmitter.
Coaxial lines have a certain velocity factor compared to free space, that is to say the signal velocity is slower in the cable media. The older plastic coax has ~.66 speed where the more modern foam coax has ~.88 so using this data, the spacing from the original to the canceling antenna, one can calculate what length of phase delay line to use in obtaining this 180 degree phase cancellation method.
Though today's tests are not as tough as they used to be, the hams out there will know how to do this if it is brought to their attention and will know how to calculate, providing they remember this method in their frustration.
As far as the IF jamming issue goes, to be effective, for a high quality communications receiver, it takes a huge amount of power or to be very close in to the radio site. For a normal AM table radio, that is not too hard to jam. You have usually a single conversion receiver (cheap). If the IF frequency is .455 MHz, the local oscillator will run at either .455 MHz above or below the desired signal. The desired signal is mixed with the local injection signal and you get the sum and difference frequencies.
So, you have 3 frequencies that the radio can detect, the "front end" is tuned to amplify greater at the desired frequency with a tracking section of the tuning cap, the other section running the local oscillator.
Thus, the radio can hear, in orders of relative strength, the desired frequency, the image frequency (one being the sum, the other being the difference, of the mixing from the Local Oscillator and the IF frequency. You can also hear signal at twice the .455 plus the products.
As the radio was built to select by tuning of the amplifier with tracking tuning, the greater gain is on the desired frequency, yet there is in the simple design, not enough rejection to ignore a strong enough image signal but there is further rejection at the final IF frequency, so that is the less prone to unwanted signal but still possible.
If one were trying to jam reception in the AM broadcast band or on a single conversion receiver, yet did not want it to be too obvious and jam the actual frequency of the broadcast band transmitter, one would have two options. First, generate a signal on the image frequency of about 3 or 4 times greater and to the detector stage, it will win out over the desired frequency.
Everybody is looking at the AM broadcast frequency, hears no beat notes or jamming signal, assumes it is a local radio problem. Not many will go looking at the image frequency, not your typical consumer, that is.
In this situation, as the radio uses a ferrite bar or "loopstick" antenna internal, it has quite a directional nature, in fact if you were out in the woods lost and knew where a local radio station transmitter site was, on the AM band, you could rotate the radio and hear a distinctive signal null off the ends of the loopstick antenna, try it. You get one null and the loopstick has 2 ends, so you get 2 directions. If you are near a clearing, make a line to two objects you can see from another location and remember them.
Then move position as far away within view and take another null, make another line to landmarks. The two landmarks closest together is the way home, the two further apart is the wrong way.
Handy for finding noisy electrical devices around the house, too.
So, turning the radio to null the offending or jamming signal reduces the signal and raises the strength of the desired signal, as long as they are more than a few degrees off a 180 degree line from where you are at. Of course you can null the desired station and peak on the jammer, too, your choice.
For the signal directly on the .455 KC IF, which can be other than that but this is a common one, it will have to be many times stronger than the desired signal. This raises a power issue I will address later.
For a communications class of receiver, there are dual or triple conversion radios. This is done to help beat the image signal problem as described with the cheap AM table radio.
You have a high IF, often at 10.7 MHz, where having the RF stage fairly selective at the desired frequency will admit this yet with enough bandwidth to easily pass all the modulation and sidebands.
So, the chain would be, amplify at the desired frequency, local oscillator 10.7 MHz above or below, pass the signal to the mixer but now with enough selectivity to attenuate the left over product, sum or difference.
Here you still have enough bandwidth but greatly reduced one potential image frequency.
Then, another mixer stage, this one at say .455 MHz. You end up with the signal converted to a final IF of .455 MHz where it can go through a filter for upper or lower side bands, etc. here you get real selectivity.
My point, if you have a dual conversion receiver and remember some are triple conversion, getting that .455 MHz signal into the shielded stages with all the prior filtering at each conversion takes a tremendous power at even modest distances.
Bothering say a 23 MHz IF, a 10.7 MHz IF and a .455 MHz IF is very hard.
Consider these factors: If it were a .455 IF and transmitter AND if all the receivers were operated on commercial power lines, some of the RF can ride in with the power lines. However, here we are working with battery or generator local power supplies so the power line acting as a "carrier current" type broadcast assist is not happening. By the way, speaking of carrier current, in times when the power grid is normal, this is another method of getting a lot of signal to the radio one places the RF carrier directly on the power grid and the energy is distributed strongly great distances on the grid, yet is hardly heard when less than a couple of hundred feet away from the wires.
All the radios connected to the grid hear the signal very strong yet, on a battery, the same radio, once away from the power lines, can hardly hear the signal. Also makes it hard to locate the transmitter with simple equipment.
Considering the situation of the power grid, that is not too likely. However, if you are having a direct .455 MHz direct IF blocking problem, or the next up common IF of 10.7 MHz, if the signal is having a overload or blocking effect on the receiver, the ship out to sea may be too far for real effect.
Look closer, an ideal placement would be the local AM radio station tower, tuned with a series coil, it will have a good signal output and also has the required ground wire radial system built in beneath it, for efficient energy and ground wave transfer.
As the problem described seemed very local to the area, somebody may have hung a high power 455 kHz transmitter and / or 10.7 MHz transmitter very local.
Even with the station operating, it is easily possible to inject another tuned circuit to keep the two transmitters from interacting or back feeding to each other and sharing the same tower(s) and ground system(s).
I would have no problem pulling this off very low budget so they would be able to do this easily, too.
How to block the IF busters; Place an in-line (in the coax cable path) band pass filter so that the common Low IF frequencies are greatly attenuated, between the antenna and radio. If the 10.7 is under attack, do the same or both.
For a ship bound system to be as effective at .455 kHz as a local radio tower, it is going to require a balloon lifted long wire and several times the power, if the broadcast station tower is closer.
Yes, the ship will have a decent ground counterpoise but unless it has a very long antenna, it will have to make that up in a vertical antenna resonated with a coil. At this frequency, you are talking maybe a 10 percent efficient system, plus inverse distance losses depending how far out the ship is. Megawatts would be needed.
A lot of megawatts. A tube type CQK-650 can do 1.77 Mw output driven with as little as 900 watts. VOA uses them, other international broadcasters, too. We used to rebuild that type tube and it's brother the CQK-450 so I know who uses them. (openly).
Shifting operating frequency for the radio nets is one option if everybody gets the word on time. Spread spectrum is effective but the ECM people on the other side will see that. I am within reach of a spectrum analyzer from 10 kHz to 22 GHz and trust me, if it's there, it can be seen, isolated and locked onto.
By the time these countermeasures are brought to the field teams attention, whatever they are trying to hide and block may well be over. But maybe not.
The last measure is diversity transmission and reception.
Two or more transmitters and time delay on one of them (or more) (the rules say, unless you are broadcasting code practice) you can't put the same information on 2 transmitters, however, if you time delay one, well, gee, it's not the same information at the same time, is it...then time delay the second receiver (or more) then sync the information back again, minus signal fades, you can recover more data.
Gov't did radio teletype that way for decades, before computers.
If the guys out there are real newbies, they may not be able to rig that up without a lot of gear.
jasgrave333 said...
"I really didn't understand the Socialist Philosophy on NAZI'sm...
However, DIDN'T Fasciscm turn into EXTREME RIGHT WING?"
No. Fascism might be considered the right wing of the socialist movement, but it is still a leftist ideology which is Italian in origin. The N.A.Z.I movement is german in origin. The only real diference between the two is the Italians didn't run death camps - as the NAZIs did - and made trains run on time. Communism can be considered the left wing of the socialist movement. When you hear the 'either side of the isle' phrase, that originates from the English Parlimentary system.
We have a Constitutional Republic - which is totally at odds with either wing of the socialist movement.
You may be confusing the KKK and other extreem RACIST movements with the socialist ones above - they are totally different in nature. The American Nazi party is the only remnant of the German nazi party here. The Communist wing is very active in the US usually under different names; some bits of it are part of the Democrat Party.
The most recognizable characteristic of the socailist movment is a rabid hatred of all things spiritual/religious, especially Christianity and Judaism; the ACLU is a good example.
Hello, the EarthQuakes are showing a little 3.3...
hmmmmmmm
map 3.3 2005/09/06 11:35:30 36.398 -118.035 0.0 CENTRAL CALIFORNIA
just now... http://earthquake.usgs.gov/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_all.html
:D PIF :)
"PIF said...
jasgrave333 said...
"I really didn't understand the Socialist Philosophy on NAZI'sm...
However, DIDN'T Fasciscm turn into EXTREME RIGHT WING?"
No. Fascism might be considered the right wing of the socialist movement, but it is still a leftist ideology which is Italian in origin. The N.A.Z.I movement is german in origin. The only real diference between the two is the Italians didn't run death camps - as the NAZIs did - and made trains run on time. Communism can be considered the left wing of the socialist movement. When you hear the 'either side of the isle' phrase, that originates from the English Parlimentary system.
We have a Constitutional Republic - which is totally at odds with either wing of the socialist movement.
You may be confusing the KKK and other extreem RACIST movements with the socialist ones above - they are totally different in nature. The American Nazi party is the only remnant of the German nazi party here. The Communist wing is very active in the US usually under different names; some bits of it are part of the Democrat Party.
The most recognizable characteristic of the socailist movment is a rabid hatred of all things spiritual/religious, especially Christianity and Judaism; the ACLU is a good example.
6/9/05 9:04 AM"
Thanks for the clarity here...
Something that made me Jump was that, I didn't realise that communism was BIG in the USA...
WOW
Here's something else to add to the pot... (as it were, all you cheeky Rastas out there ;)
Incredibly the Ark of the Covenant has a pretender.
With the blessings of the United Nations, a bizarre ark knock-off, carried through Vermont farm fields and sailed by sloop to UN Manhattan headquarters, has been making the rounds as a show-and-tell exercise at public schools. Called the Ark of Hope, the replica carries, among other things, the Earth Charter, a replacement for the Ten Commandments as advocated by former Soviet Union President Mikhail Gorbachev and Kofi Annan right hand man, Maurice Strong.
The Earth Charter is "an international peoples’ treaty for building a just, sustainable and peaceful global society in the 21st century". (Philologos Bible Prophecy Research).
Even as you read this, the hidden location of the real artifact is underway with results possibly coming your way the summer of 2005.
Canada Free Press founding editor Judi McLeod is an award-winning journalist with 30 years experience in the media. A former Toronto Sun and Kingston Whig Standard columnist, she has also appeared on Newsmax.com, the Drudge Report, Foxnews.com, and World Net Daily. Judi can be reached at: letters@canadafreepress.com.
http://www.canadafreepress.com/2005/cover062905.htm
HMMMMMmmmmmm dots, dots, dots,
Then Q's q'S Q'S
PIF, the part I wanted to high-light is this...
the Earth Charter, a replacement for the Ten Commandments
as advocated by former Soviet Union President Mikhail Gorbachev
and Kofi Annan right hand man, Maurice Strong.
Communist Links to a Body involved in UNITING THE NATIONS eh???!!!???
REMOVING THE 10 COMMANDMENTS and PLACING MANS law inside...
That is a serious amount of BLASPHEMY NO???
INTERESTING TIMES
Still catching up...
To the Anonymous wimps supporting the lack of TIMELY government response in New Orleans...
The people you are protecting are the ones admitting there was a problem and response was slow. George W. Bush is meeting with his cabinet to discuss "what went wrong" with Katrina response. Must be nice to sit back and just be angry at everyone underneath you.
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Houston Chronicle
Sept. 4, 2005, 1:05PM
Flood of regret...waves of anger
Americans right to ask: Where was President Bush's plan?
By GEOFFREY CORN
As the nation watches in "shock and awe," the catastrophe in New Orleans is spiraling out of control. Word from the White House today is that the President George W. Bush, after having cut short his extended vacation last week, several days after Katrina struck, was now "very angry" at the slow response to the disaster wrought by Hurricane Katrina.
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oh, and a comical dance done by Bush Sr....
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CNN.com
Clinton: Government 'failed' people
Monday, September 5, 2005; Posted: 9:49 p.m. EDT (01:49 GMT)
"....As with the 9/11 commission charged with looking at the events leading up to and after the September 11, 2001 attacks, Clinton suggested a bipartisan Katrina commission be formed. It would investigate what went wrong and determine "what is the best structure and what are the best personnel decisions" to make in emergency management, he said.
The elder Bush echoed Clinton's sentiment, telling CNN's Larry King that he is "not satisfied" with the handling of the hurricane's aftermath.
Nonetheless, he defended his son's performance.
"What can he do? He can just go out and do what he's doing today, showing that the federal government's involved, has been involved, will continue to be involved ... He cannot listen to every critic from the editorial page of The New York Times," the elder Bush said..."
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For all of you Anonymous posters who have showed up recently and think everyone speaking out against Bush, FEMA and Homeland Security are left wing radicals, I am a registered independant.
You are missing the point. I'm on the inside: I know. The slow response by the federal government was PLANNED to look bad. I helped plan the delays. Why? We planned it to demand inquiries. The administration WANTS inquiries, and when the time comes, the blame will be laid on Posse Comitatus. Most of the public doesn't even know what it is. They ask: why didn't you send in the military earlier? And we will tell them we simply weren't legally allowed to. Psychological profiles have shown that a large number of Americans (the "red staters" as you may know them) will simply say "that's crazy!" and we will have to agree with the outcry and Congress will dissolve the Act for the purposes of National Security.
I'm personally against what I'm seeing going on, so I'm writing to warn you. Don't let it happen.
IonTruO2 said...
Wow, apologies for bulky post!
wanted to not be vague.
Jasgrave333! Hey brother, I hope your family will be o.k.
Watch for the 33's!!!! even in my post.
5/9/05 10:56 PM"
Some good news, from my wifes father, they have been in contact with the families in Mississippi, some good humour, bout dis family don't live near dat sea water...
Yes they have been affected and there are one or two that haven't updated the main family (which is huge, and the more names I try and remember, the bigger the family gets...sheesh not including the families in Chicago, Vegas, LA, Texas, etc etc etc...)
The homes were damaged badly (as you can imagine) still they are on their way to stay with their families...
This only highlights the need for humanity to reach out to each other in these Horrific times, we have only got each other left and God of course...family, friends and neighbours are our closest, being in good contact saves lives, in this case it definatley was true...
Sword, this made me smile..."Like I said, get everybody in the same room, and pandimonieum will break out as geeks of all types and ages try to gladitor it out. Root Beer and 7up will be on tap as well as scabble and boogle. Someone will break out a compas a a square and all hell will break loose like a viking in a tuu-tuu..."
The mental image alone, made me larf... Thor running around in a skirt, is not a good morning mental image... IonTru02 7up eh ;)
Sword, what's the infighting like at the moment, how HOT is it? What is the internal view of BUSH, are they incensed at him not only being a 33rd degree FM, but also that he's making the entire Masonic organisation look like a Permanent bad hair day?
If anyone wants to see how bad the JW org has become, look no further than here, at the EX JW site: www.jehovahs-witness.com Some seriously startling stories of peadephillia, scandals, corruption, money into Arms trade and the list goes on... A LOT of Disgruntled folks and a few PsyOps plants is leading to a good battle on those blogs :) hi hi hi stiring the pot...
Crypt0 said..." I think that what we REALLY need is a country where CEO's are willing to work for $5 a day.
George Bush is not a person, but a corporation masquerading as an individual. Alot of shady people in that organization ...
:-)
5/9/05 11:21 PM"
I've heard of this before, just recently, on STA, they were mentioning things HIDDEN in PLAIN site...
This was a feature of that Thread, that CAPATALISED LETTERS, FOR NAMES, can be representing other bodies, as the LETTERS LIKE FBI and CIA and EVEN STATES AND NAMES actually do not represent the actual place, but a corporation or body... hmmmmm extremely interesting crypt0
If BUSH is MASQUERADING FOR AN ORGANISATION, which body and WHICH corporation is powering the Shrubster? OIL Business - Rhetorical Question... :)
Sword, are there any good links you can provide (offline) that would steer me to a little more of the 'news' going on behind the ILLUMINATI AND FREEMASON tings?
any help or research help on that, would deeply interest me...
Going DEEPER, Break the Surface Superficial.
As Pink Floyd sang: "Welcome to the Machine", we don't need to know necessarly "How" it works, but simply to know that it "Is" a machine, of sorts.
Adi Da speaks in His Revelation of Ruchiradam published in his source text Eleutherios, known as Book Five (Jasgrave333!!! for you.), of The Five Books of The Heart of Adidam.
The whirring dark machine of klik-klak or the black machine, the patterning of conditional existence--is terrible, inherently without fixity, without discreetness of form. To contemplate the whirring black itself is like embracing a shredding machine.
The "Hum" is not an "Om" at all.
There is no Divine Sound where the is "difference". The blackness is the "pond" of "difference". And that is why, in the Divine Indifference stage, there is absolutely nothing consoling in the vast "map" of conditions. And,
yet, There is Only "Bright" Love-Bliss. In Divine Translation, there are no shadows in the
"Brightness" anymore.
There is no religion higher than Truth. Reality IS Truth. There is no religion higher than Reality, or "other" than Reality. Therefore, you must quickly de-provincialize yourselves. You
have just gone with the plastic flow of mummeried existence-indifferent as crickets, and
indifferently dealt with by life.
---> So the Om was really a Hum and for Humankind it was really an "Ummm?". Lost in the question as it arises, over and over again, puzzled about what is happening, body/mind trying to figure it
out. The answer is not in the mind, it is "prior" to the body/mind.
So some of the crickets here found a way to control this earthly ship to some degree. Ya, o.k., they found an accelerator and now are
playing with the stearing, but it really "amounts" to nothing. Suffering is Suffering, same ol same ol. A fleeting appearance to our short blip in apparent HERE.
Your still in the Dark, tinkering with shadows.
Your still standing in HIS yard, not in his
BRIGHT House.
Time for Us to get our shoes in order.
Read Eleutherios (The Only Truth That Sets The
Heart Free). ISBN 1-57097-109-9
Just read the table of contents and you will know, this is the real deal and speaks to the BIG
Picture many of us here are touching on.
Time to de-provincialize!
Might is not right!
Might is Blight!
Stuck in Kindergarten, we forgot the LIGHT.
a small cog on the inside: Yeah, sure. And you are a poor "good" Democrat that "has to obey" to the "evil" Republican now in charge that has "evil bloody plans" , uh ?
You commies are pathetic. Do you really believe that no one knows and understands what is really going on and what YOU and your groups are doing ?
The NeoCon are not the evil ones here but the Fascism, Nazists, Socialists,Communists,68s,no-global,catholic,muslims,Democrats,TheThing2 and whatever-label-they want-to-use groups surely are the most dangerous threat for this planet. These and other unknown to the general public labels/groups connected with them are the real evil force that wants to destroy.
pif: The KKK real unknown-to-the-public agenda actually matched that of '68/Communists/Fascists/current-Democrats in the past. Let's say that the KKK group got hired by them to do some pro-racism propaganda actions that would have elected them, the Democrats, to the "good" ones who help minorities and other pathetic things like that which they actually don't care about, they just knew that it was needed in order to gain more power because they knew that those groups could have been enslaved quite easily...
That's the reason why the Democrats hate the current Republican administration more and more, because it's a Republican one that actually placed non-white skin people in charge for the first time in some key roles -- and that was something that the Democrats thought the NeoCon wouldn't have dare doing against them.... there was something like an unwritten rule by the Democrats "minorities are ours and our only slave, you can't have them. Don't try to let them see what's going on"
aredo said...
a small cog on the inside: Yeah, sure. And you are a poor "good" Democrat that "has to obey" to the "evil" Republican now in charge that has "evil bloody plans" , uh ?
You commies are pathetic. Do you really believe that no one knows and understands what is really going on and what YOU and your groups are doing ?
The NeoCon are not the evil ones here but the Fascism, Nazists, Socialists,Communists,68s,no-global,catholic,muslims,Democrats,TheThing2 and whatever-label-they want-to-use groups surely are the most dangerous threat for this planet. These and other unknown to the general public labels/groups connected with them are the real evil force that wants to destroy.
6/9/05 9:58 AM
Actually this makes a little sense... Like the SS soldiers in HITLERS time, they admit at the time they were DOING SOMETHING DETESTABLE but THEY WERE TOLD TO DO IT... WTF???
As I stand before GOD the Higher Hyper High, if MAN told me to do something CONTRARY to my knowledge and BELIEF as to WHAT was RIGHT... Then I AM OFFENDING GOD And NO AMMOUNT OF I DIDN'T know cuts any ice, IGNORANCE and Ignore ANCE, is NO EXCUSE!!!
But to the Credit of the blogger ' a small cog on the inside'
That was valuable information, CAN YOU TELL ME THE STATE OF THINGS (GENERALLY) on the inside, you seem to have some EXTREMELY Valuable information, what is the internal feeling looking out?
There ARE A LOT OF ANGRY Peope (understatment) that want to Litterally Lynch Bush
I guess that never changes, hence the huge security, protecting a PRESIDENT FROM HIS OWN PEOPLE??? just thought about what I was writing... hmmmmm
hey aredo, sounds like when they ask to repeal the posse commie-tatus act that you'll be all for it, right?
I have a quick, non political question, if that's ok.
If we are going down the path of a "man made" natural disaster, then does anyone know how long it takes for "someone" to get these monsters going? Any guesses? Is it that they allow nature to take its course in forming the storm, and THEN take control? Or do they intentionally set up the placement for the formation?
scarletm said...
I have a quick, non political question, if that's ok.
If we are going down the path of a "man made" natural disaster, then does anyone know how long it takes for "someone" to get these monsters going? Any guesses? Is it that they allow nature to take its course in forming the storm, and THEN take control? Or do they intentionally set up the placement for the formation?
6/9/05 10:26 AM
Scarletm, a Quick, non political answer, roughly 3 days if you look at Katrina, which appeared, disappeared, appeared, then in true HULK fashion, turned Green, and ripped all it's clothes in the modest apropriate places...
Watch out for TROPICAL DEPRESSION 16... It's in the same Place Katrina Waded through, well almost...HMMMMMMMMM...
Also, one quick observation-what it has to do with the price of tea in china I don't know, just throwing it out there:
After Ivan hit, the leaves on the trees (what was left of them) turned brown and died-like within 2 days. The experts said it was salt spray etc...fine.
Now, after Dennis hit,(the eye passed over my house)this didn't happen at all. I expected the leaves to wither and die like after Ivan- The opposite happened. Whole new growth!
Katrina- the leaves are deader than a door nail. Looks like it's November here.
Is this a start of a pattern?
I believe that Ivan may have been a "trial baloon" (see earlier post)
and I am wondering of the energy output from a HD storm could be affecting things on a biological level. Am I completely off my rocker? I mean, how could this be tested?
hi RCH... Yes, this is 'THAT Goro'. :) I was kind of 'freaking out' after reading that you're a '(distant) fan' of my site... (That just didn't seem right!) But I'm calmer now... I think. 'Fascinating' indeed.
Okay, so Crypto was truthful about the TEM aritcle then - good. And 'National Treasure'... ah yes, a lot in there... in that whole, essentialy, 'Grail' theme. You know, both the Da Vince Code film and Dan Brown's next book 'The Solomon Key' are coming out next year, along with the Winter Olympics held in Turin next Februray (the home of the Turin Shroud, sort of an alter ego of the Grail), I'd say it is STILL very 'timely' to do an article/blog presentation on that general subject. I definitely sense a hidden, esoteric 'design' lurking there, actually intensifying. As you probably know, there is a popular theory linking the Shroud to Da Vinci himself - raising the amazing possibility that the 'Jesus' face may well be that of Leonard!).
Closely following that will the be Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter arriving at Mars in March... which is just so fitting. No one seems to be making the connection yet, but I've been saying this for years now, that the 'Holy Grai' stuff - Da Vinci, Templars, Priory Sion, Rennes-le-Chateau, Rose Line, Mary Magdalene, and all that - is about to merge with all the MARS and particularly CYDONIA issues. THAT's where the 'game' is going. The way I see it, this is why the 'Face on Mars', when reconfigured, is a form of Isis pregnant with Horus... the 'Grail child', for instance. Mars itself is also 'Mary' in many ways, etc. And the 'Grail' is also HDP... and also 'Contact'. I'd say 2010 will be an 'interesting' year in this regard - and there is a little 'National Treasure' connection here as well. :) A Total Recall kind of storyline, maybe? President Schwarzenegger bringing HDP-type technology out of the black world to save the world from Peak Oil? :)
scarletm: It's all about power and tactics. "The nature" and "it's natural" type of things are just non-true statements. Do you really think that this planet "is natural" ? Think otherwise because it's not.
Katrina was built either using Earth's own devices there or with non-Earth's owned spacecrafts/weapons systems.... do you get the picture ?
Yes, it's way way worse than what the majority of people still believe.
There is an hidden giant war actually going on and that doesn't involve just humans....
and yes, when I said "Earth's owned devices" I really meant it, literally. (The Earth owns ..not humans on Earth....and not "Mother Nature"... unless you say "AI Mother Nature" to be a bit more precise...)
There is an hidden giant war actually going on and that doesn't involve just humans....
6/9/05 10:41 AM
I know this is going to sound crass but what the hell do "the aliens" have against florida and the gulf coast? Whatever.
scarletm said...
Also, one quick observation-what it has to do with the price of tea in china I don't know, just throwing it out there:
After Ivan hit, the leaves on the trees (what was left of them) turned brown and died-like within 2 days. The experts said it was salt spray etc...fine.
Now, after Dennis hit,(the eye passed over my house)this didn't happen at all. I expected the leaves to wither and die like after Ivan- The opposite happened. Whole new growth!
Katrina- the leaves are deader than a door nail. Looks like it's November here.
Is this a start of a pattern?
I believe that Ivan may have been a "trial baloon" (see earlier post)
and I am wondering of the energy output from a HD storm could be affecting things on a biological level. Am I completely off my rocker? I mean, how could this be tested?
6/9/05 10:39 AM
Scarletm, something else you might wanna note, after Dennis went through in July, it was reported, that it had brought a bunch of mold spores which would damage a LOT of CROPS...
Interesting, then if this was in fact part 'artificial' part 'HDP' then the collection of a HUGE amount of salt water would probably be another smoking gun, as to the HDP nature of this Hurricane...
Goro, maybe they've run out of time 'jasgrave333.blogspot.com' 10th dec 2005, what you reckon? It's a theory, but so far, Everyone who's read it, has stated it seems to be solid? When you get time, can you let me know what you think? (offline email jasgrave333@hotmail.com)
aredo said..."Yes, it's way way worse than what the majority of people still believe.
There is an hidden giant war actually going on and that doesn't involve just humans....
6/9/05 10:41 AM"
This would fit ABSOLUTELY with the HDP theory and REVELATION 9:5 and 9:10;
5 And it was granted the [locusts], not to kill them, but that these should be tormented FIVE months, and the torment upon them was as torment by a scorpion when it strikes a man
10 Also, they have tails and stings like scorpions; and in their tails is their authority to hurt the men FIVE months.
Armageddon is a supernatural war... bad/naughty HDP's (inject rasping breath and big black helmet) against the HDP Jedi (light sabers and flaming swords) hi hi hi...
IonTru02, thanks for the tip on reading r.e. FIVE books :)
scarletm said...
There is an hidden giant war actually going on and that doesn't involve just humans....
6/9/05 10:41 AM
I know this is going to sound crass but what the hell do "the aliens" have against florida and the gulf coast? Whatever.
6/9/05 10:49 AM
Thinking out loud, the WARNING IS CLEAR, HURRICANES BLOW THROUGH FLORIDA and do damage... HELLLLOOOO people, it's something we are used too... We've had warnings for years that A BIG ONE COULD HIT, just like when I worked in SAN FRANCISCO... the BIG ONE was always a factor in staying alert and mindful of how FRAGILE WE ALL ARE...
Let's just say in the outstart to my next comments, THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF CULTURES have been prepared for the RETURN of Daddy! in other words the BIG CHANGE or Apocolypse...
We have been warned for decades in various religions, creeds and cultures, that a big big big bigger than that even ting is gonna come, wake everyone up, and all that didn't heed dat warning would probably be not very healthy being in the middle of an HD battle...
So the WRITING is on the WALL, OIL and BIG BUSINESS Cash is going the same way as the DODO, and that LARGE OIL port and all the POLUTION that goes with it again is DEMONSTRATING IGNORANCE of this BEAUTIFUL Planet, which we are callously turning into a wasteland...
Did no one wonder what happened to the inhabitants of MARS? Hmmmmmm? where are they now, and look at the state of that once probably inhabited planet...
So we've seen one of the largest storms in American History blow through, We've seen RECORD BREAKING WEATHER and OTHER Crazy Phenomena, and people sit and say EH??? Why us...
And also, China and USA in a COVERT war is not a FAR out concept, given that a WEATHER war is discreet and as USA and CHINA are being hit by HUGE TYPHOONS and HURRICANES, in this UNUSUALLY active sesaon, is indicative of MORE DOTS... OIL OIL and MORE GREASY money lovers fighting over power and CASH...
So the bible speaks of an EIGTH king, I wonder if that King is Chinese?
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Anonymous said:
"Cory, Don't become another sheeple of the media, rehashing their hysterical talking points. They essentially repeat the same thing again & again FOR HOURS until people believe the mantra! What nonsense!"
Same MO as BushCO uses to spin their lies! Probable the better question is who owns the media and what is their agenda.
Aredo and Anonymous...when did you stop having gay sex?
Aredo,
Fancy dizinformatzya re:Thing 2! You coukd get a job in government. Any sources, any facts to justify this claim? You guys are really et up with the dumbass!!
A Small Cog On The Inside said...
The administration WANTS inquiries, and when the time comes, the blame will be laid on Posse Comitatus.
Well that certainly fits "PROBLEM...REACTION...SOLUTION".
And the president said, ""We have a responsibility to help clean up this mess ...." as in, they had a hand in creating it?
Richard,
Researching the ham angle,,,awaiting resonses to some emails.
Scarletm,
I am a former Breezer, lived there from 81-2002 and in Pcola from 72-81. Even seen some of those GB Ufos! I lived East of GB, just beyond the old Delchamps. Still have folks and oldest daughter in Pcola.
OK OK OK LISTEN UP!
My turn to be conspiratorial.
Everything in this situation revolves around ONE thing. The ET’s that the Black Government are using (working with). If the existence of these beings is proven, they (the ET’s) will have the highest credibility of any source of Truth on Earth. If they say “We have been working with your government for years.” We will lynch government in general! If they say “You came from us.” The religious leaders credibility will collapse! This has been the ET’s plan all along. THEY create the crisis and THEY bring order to chaos. THEY are playing the game better than the Kabol. Disclosure of their existence is EVERYTHING! Suing the government to get technology won’t work. Fighting the Black Government won’t work, they will win. Showing video of our “flying saucers” won’t work. When the ET’s decide to land and talk, we will see them becoming the leaders of the world by default. All the crowd control technology and fear mongering about mass extinction are taking our attention off of the big lies. The ET’s can save us. The ET’s are the Truth tellers. You may be on the other side of this issue. You may believe they can save us, and they are the Truth tellers. It doesn’t change the fact that Disclosure is EVERYTHING.
A Small Cog On The Inside said...
You are missing the point. I'm on the inside: I know. The slow response by the federal government was PLANNED to look bad. I helped plan the delays. Why? We planned it to demand inquiries. The administration WANTS inquiries, and when the time comes, the blame will be laid on Posse Comitatus. Most of the public doesn't even know what it is. They ask: why didn't you send in the military earlier? And we will tell them we simply weren't legally allowed to. Psychological profiles have shown that a large number of Americans (the "red staters" as you may know them) will simply say "that's crazy!" and we will have to agree with the outcry and Congress will dissolve the Act for the purposes of National Security.
I'm personally against what I'm seeing going on, so I'm writing to warn you. Don't let it happen.
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Hello, little bird on the inside !
Pray, tell me. What will Bush do after we have decided on our own that Posse Comitatus is an obstacle to timely federal disaster aid and we repeal it with authority during the next election ? Already I have noticed that Bush is holding "fact finding" probes about Katrina. Is the inevitable conclusion going to be that everything would have been fine if only that pesky old statute that keeps the military from moving in and making things right gets axed by "the people"? What you are saying might make some sense, so I am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. Is FEMA getting ready to conduct a NATIONWIDE grand opening of it's presently dormant concentration camps and a planned program of depopulation that will make the New Orleans Superdome look like Mardi Gras ? Please, let's hear the full story !
Richard said:
>I'm concerned about this region of Southern California ... at 33 .... as I've noted earlier: the SAME HD technology which can enhance a tropical depression and turn it into a Cat 5 hurricane, can ALSO create shallow earthquakes and even move lava underground ....
>Northridge, in hindsight, seems to have been a major test of this technology ... in an urban area. As did Kobe, Japan.
>So, for anyone living near San Diego now ... be prepared to leave if these "pre-cursors" become stronger and more sustained ....
>If "someone" is doing this, the SoCal area is a high value target -- by any measure.
Anyone notice that two M5 or better earthquakes have hit off the coast of Taiwan -- just days after the latest typhoon (Talim) passed? Very similar to the M5.1 that struck the Salton Sea area just after Katrina plowed into the coast. More testing? Retaliation? Hard to say... most people probably wouldn't pay attention to that fact, as Taiwan sits on the "Ring of Fire" anyway, and the Ring is prone to earthquakes - as is California. An M5 or greater in the Gulf would be hard to explain...
Incidentally, I live where one of the largest faults (after the San Andreas)- the San Jacinto fault - intersects the San Andreas fault in So Cal - in the San Bernardino area. If "The Big One" hits, I'm pretty much toast. I think that, if *someone* is really testing a HD weapon, the Salton Sea area is a good place to test earthquakes. It's sparsely populated (compared to LA)... besides, who's going to miss a bunch of illegal aliens and their families, right? *shakes head* Ahhh such loving sentiments from those in power... (Imagines Barbara Bush after "The Big One" hits in Cali...)"Oh, they were illegals anyway. It's not like they were actual people." DOH!
SunKing-
I live across from Winn Dixie on College streets. Nice to meet a(n)ex- neighbor!
Feel free to email me-would love to chat. :)
While I understand the politics of this are of grave concern, it really doen't amount to a hill of beans, at the end of the day if we're all gonna die anyway. Not many dead go to the polls. (ok, maybe a few :P)
Hello all TEMPEL 1 peeps...
[snip]
NASA's Deep Impact Adds Color to Unfolding Comet Picture
Painting by the numbers is a good description of how scientists create pictures of everything from atoms in our bodies to asteroids and comets in our solar system. Researchers involved in NASA's Deep Impact mission have been doing this kind of work since the mission's July 4 collision with comet Tempel 1.
"Prior to our Deep Impact experiment, scientists had a lot of questions and untested ideas about the structure and composition of the nucleus, or solid body of a comet, but we had almost no real knowledge," said Deep Impact principal investigator Michael A'Hearn, a professor of astronomy at the University of Maryland, College Park, Md. "Our analysis of data produced by Deep Impact is revealing a great deal, much of it rather surprising."
For example, comet Tempel 1 has a very fluffy structure that is weaker than a bank of powder snow. The fine dust of the comet is held together by gravity. However, that gravity is so weak, if you could stand on the bank and jump, you would launch yourself into space.
[snip]
Pretty pretty conjecture and lecturing, I WANT ONE SIMPLE THING, NOT THESE PRETTIED UP WRITINGS, GIVE ME THE RAW DATA!!!
http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2005/sep/HQ_05248_Deep_impact.html
NEWS from the NASA website, WHERE ARE THE SPECTROGRAPH PICTURES MR NASA SCIENTISTS???
ok was ever so slightly off topic, but IT'S all related $333 Million to blow up a commet...
YEP Disclosure DISCLOSURE and TELL US THE truth!!!
HEADS up People Tropical Depression 16 STRANGE almost PERFECT CENTER ROUND CLOUD IN THIS CLIP at STA (Mind the popups tho, netscape users breath EZ)
http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?noframes;read=97713
Duck, run, and watch dis one, hmmmmmm
If were talking earthquakes, Kentucky of all places just got a little one near Owningsville. Since that is a good distance from the New Madrid fault, it's a bit odd to say the least. Maybe to test earthquake weapons, try it on a place that doesn't normally get them?
Just what IS that circle?
I'm packing my bags-
Can you say HELLLOOOO Wyoming!
someone said...
>To whoever asked about 'when were crop circles first reported'--
Thanks to Brit researchers who have *great* access to archives, the oldest reported crop formations in. Britain go back to the 1600's........ <
Thank you s, for providing that important puzzle piece. It casts new light upon the disinfo fields....
w
Hey, anyone ever read "Earth" by David Brin? Ends with a battle over control of a "natural disaster" of sorts, with each side trying to control it against the other side. Not a hurricane, but this discussion kind of reminded me of that story.
Speaking of crop circles,
Did anyone see the one that came out on August 29th? Now, I'm no expert, but it looks like swirling water to me.
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2005/aveburystones/aveburystones2005a.html
jasgrave333: Nostradamus wrote that a Conqueror from the Far East will rule the area and practically start invading the West seeking worldwide domination...
Many sites on the subject, just found one on Google :
http://www.geocities.com/svtmangalore/nostradamus.html
scarletm said...
Speaking of crop circles,
Did anyone see the one that came out on August 29th? Now, I'm no expert, but it looks like swirling water to me.
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2005/aveburystones/aveburystones2005a.html
6/9/05 12:00 PM
Or or or, clouds being blown in wind... hmmmm what is it...? swirling round one behind the other, pretty much like Hurricane Maria, Tropical Storm Nate, and now Tropical Depression 16... 3 big storms on the go at once, bit like those THREE big swirling Circles, following one behind the other... oh shoot...
Aredo, thanks for that link, wow 1555 and other number combinations gave me a hot flush, cheese and bread, it's all related... Packing bags and moving to large cave in mountains... cya...
Just kidding... >:)
In reference to the small Kentucky earthquake:
http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050906/NEWS0104/509060380/1008/NEWS01
This is a copy of an e-mail I received from a friend. I agree with the sentiments and philosophy expressed. Also, if/when you give money to relief efforts, do not give because of the need. That will only feed the spirit of need and create more need. Give to the agencies of your choice with the
mindfulness that the agency is doing good, and that will feed the spirit of doing good. Also re: the quote at end by Mother Teresa about forgiveness,
forgiveness is about your own personal karma, the one(s) doing the offending are still to be held accountable and "brought to Justice."
Gort
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Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 2:16 PM
Subject: helping the gulf coast
Dear Energy Keepers, I so agree with the ideas below. The people of New
Orleans and the Gulf Coast do not need our worry energy. They need
positive energy. I, for one, am participating in this project. I hope
you'll join me.
This is not about Pollyanna thinking. It's about realizing we are all
connected and contributing good energy to the web of connection rather
than fear.
I, probably like you, have very fond memories of the unique city of New
Orleans. Might have been heavy party energy at the time, but the
laughter and the heart of the feeling is much needed, so draw on that and
lend your strength.
Let's see that which rebuilds itself...and we all know it will, as better
and higher in purpose...tranformed by the collective love we share for
this country's land and each other.
Thank you for doing your part.
xoxos
[B.G.S.]
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We just received this e-mail from Tanya Bozeman ... (from) Baton Rouge.
She is asking for all of our help.
Love,
[B. & B.R.]
Lets blanket the world with this e-mail and get everyone on board to
help.
***original email follows*****
Hello Everyone,
Karen Roberts is a State Police Officer and she just called to let us
know that New Orleans is in Chaos.
The State Troopers are being sent in to bring order back to the chaos.
She is on her way to New Orleans and needs our help in the form of PEACE.
Therefore, she has asked that we begin a prayer chain for PEACE.
And surround New Orleans with Peace and Harmony and Faith, so that the
people will remember who they are and love one another.
Please participate.
Think the word PEACE, and send it to New Orleans
Think the word PEACE all day long and send the word in a Circle around
New Orleans
Think the word PEACE and think the word New Orleans
All of these methods will help.
Feel Good all day long, this will raise your vibration and this will help
the people who are afraid.
You feeling bad does not help anyone
If you love to sing, sing a song and dedicate it to Peace & People in
New Orleans,
If you love to Dance, Dance and dedicate it to Peace & People in New
Orleans
If you love to Paint, Paint and dedicate it to the Peace & People in New
Orleans
Make Peace with someone today and send the result to New Orleans
Smile Smile Smile Smile
Smile when you are frustrated today and this will ripple out and create
PEACE in New Orleans
Smile at someone and brighten their day, this will ripple out also and
create PEACE in New Orleans
Each action you do is significant, YOU are significant.
The small acts you do TODAY with GREAT LOVE and PEACE will effect the
outcome in New Orleans, so get to loving and PEACE you loveable, Peaceful
YOU!
Even though it has been hard over the last few days to get around, to
contact people, be Grateful to be alive, this will ripple out and help
New Orleans.
Raise your vibration and think the word PEACE and send out the love you
have for people to New Orleans.
Blanket them in love and peace.
If you belong to any e-mail groups
Please send to as many people as you can to increase the number of small
acts done with great love today
The more people, the more we become whole, the more effective we are.
Much love to you
Peace be with you, go out and Love one another
Tanya K. Bozeman
The Butterfly Effect
www.soulsdesire.org http://www.soulsdesire.org/
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People are often unreasonable,
illogical and self-centered;
Forgive them anyway.
Mother Teresa
"A groundless rumor carries a lot of ground" - Anonymous
RICHARD Said:
"I LOVE how all of a sudden, all of these totally "anonymous," blatantly cowardly (there I said it ...) folks are showing up ... trying to argue an obviously ridiculous positon:
That EVERYTHING has gone absolutely right with this disaster ....
You don't suppose we've "touched a nerve" ... or "something?" :)"
Well, well Mr. Conspiracy -- you gave we 'cowards' the option to post anonymously, so don't be so quick to impugn our collective intergrity or our motives. Besides, even the founders published their comments under psuedonyms, so we are in pretty good company, eh. Just consider us a collective of logical and sensible 'Deep Throats' that are here to awaken your zombies drones and shed the light of truth on your completely mental ideas. Oh, and we are all working together Richard -- against YOU! We are the BORG! Prepare to be assimilated!!!!!!!!
On earthquakes:
Here in the southern california desert we had a swarm of quakes just south of where I live, during this same time period...
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20050902/news_7m2quake.html
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/090205_bet_life.shtml
Oh lord, is somebody really really taking the ssip now?
more THREE's (3) than you can shake a straight line piece of foliage at...
COMET-BUSTING MISSION PUZZLES SCIENTISTS
Posted By: Kaspel [Send E-Mail]
Date: Tuesday, 6 September 2005, 3:15 p.m.
LOS ANGELES - Two months after a NASA spacecraft smashed a comet with a space probe, scientists are still puzzling over how big a hit the icy body took.
Even so, the mission did accomplish its main goal: to determine what makes up the interior and exterior of a comet. And the answer is that these layers are very different.
Three research papers on the July 4 Deep Impact mission will be published online Thursday in the journal Science. Researchers presented their results Tuesday at a meeting of the American Astronomical Society‘s division of planetary sciences in Cambridge, England.
Preliminary analysis suggests the crater length is about 330 feet, or roughly the size of a football field, principal investigator Michael A‘Hearn of the University of Maryland said in a telephone briefing Tuesday. The probe appeared to penetrate the comet surface at least 30 feet deep.
Hot water vapor was detected shortly after impact, followed by a spike in concentration of organic, or carbon-based, dust. Scientists are still working to determine the type of organic substances released, but they have identified hydrogen cyanide and methyl cyanide in the plume.
The presence of simple organic compounds supports the idea that comets are primitive bodies and are not complex like planets, said Lucy McFadden, a mission co-investigator from the University of Maryland.
Researchers also reported that the charcoal-colored surface of Tempel 1 is unlike any other comet studied. It‘s nearly 5 miles long and 3 miles wide — much less elongated than previously thought — and held together by very weak gravity.
In a third study, the European Space Agency‘s Rosetta spacecraft, en route to another comet, observed that the comet grew brighter after impact, a finding that may help scientists determine the crater size.
http://www.leadingthecharge.com/stories/news-0068519.html
NASA, stop kidding around, GIVE US THE SPECTROGAPHIC IMAGE
INSTEAD OF MORE FREEMASONARY NUMEROLOGICAL NUMBERS...
I travelled to new Orleans recently and as I walked down the streets have never seen more disgusting filth in my life. I am talking about the ads for sex hanging up in the windows, sex with animals, children, whatever one could want. Has anyone considered that this is the second possible circumstance where the people were victimized for their perversion [the first being thailand]? Just a thought. If someone is altering the weather I find it somewhat curious that New Orleans was selected, and in RCH's previous blog he mentioins Thailand as another possible victim of this technology... Comments?
-D
Dear America:
Buy guns. Lots of them. RIGHT NOW. We're gonna need them to protect ourselves from the evil tyrants in Washington DC.
The below has some foul language, but is one of the first relief worker stories from war torn New Orleans. I think we will see more like this. Below is the link to the source, which contains some nude photo's so it's not work safe
(EBD= copied directly from Bikeland.org)
I'll preface this by saying that Rhino at LAB is a straight up for- real guy. He is a rescue dog worker. Many of you may remember his posts about his experieces at 9/11 and the search and rescue operations he took part in at the World Trade Center.
Rhino was just deployed to New Orleans and this is what happened to him. For the purposes of context, "Bravous" is Rhino's dog.
From Labusas.org
Originally Posted by Rhino
BAMF
Posted: 01 Sep 2005 17:18
Three days of hell was what it was. Temps in the high 90's with high humidity. All great intentions where immediately meet with hostility. First day traveling from Baton Rouge to Gulf Port was hard. We where stopped numerous times by people blocking the road and demanding to be brought out of the area. Or asking for food or water. A few rocks where thrown at the convoy in certain areas. The sound of rocks hitting the van just made my dog pissed and the people inside uneasy.
The dead where ramped the people just trying to get to dry areas sat like rats after a storm drain flood on anything they could keep dry on. The roads where real bad and we had to boat it then get picked up by others. What made this an unattainable task was COMMUNICATION. Getting in touch with others without satellite phones where impossible. Seen so much looting that you didn't even take notice after a while. Even if you wanted to you could do nothing about it. There where that many looters. We came across an apartment building for assisted living adults that had a fire on the upper floors and had to evacuate them. We then had no way of transporting those people. Had to leave them there on the street. Night fall came and the constant shoots where heard. Some far away Some close. Bravous is trained to turn on to gun fire so it was a sleepless night. We slept outside the trucks to protect ourselves from anything that may have come out of the darkness.
My team was made out of three suburbans, and two 12 pass. vans. We had three sheriffs with small arms and one M-16 for protection. This was not enough for what the nigh had. Fires where seen all over the area at night. Sunrise could not come to early for us. we reported the going ons back to IC and was told it was all isolated incidents. Yeah right. We where in the field they where back in a nice safe area.
Day two we got into gulf port and the devastation was beyond belief we assisted helio evacs of people and tried to assist any trapped people we came across. I came across an old white man in a second floor room in a house that had diabetes. He was bed ridden. He flipped a little when Bravous went into room when we where checking the house. He threw his bed pan filled with piss at Bravous. Great now I poured my water ration on him and cleaned him with some saline solution. I had to carry the guy down the stairs. He had shit in his pajamas. He cried when they cleaned him up and thanks us and apologized for getting scared when he seen Bravous. He said he though Bravous was a wild dog and came to feed on him. The Coast Guard fly boys picked him up.
We continued on checking debris and houses for trapped people. All the time people asking us for supplies. information we had no answers to. Everyone wanting help. But help they could do themselves. We where there for the ones that can't help themselves. The trapped, sick, or medical attention people. The people that had no physical problems where told to make it out and head north where trucks with supplies could not get in do the flooding. Got back to the trucks just before sunset. AND FOUND MY PERSONAL DOG BAG MISSING. Bitches stole Bravous' supplies and his my personal shit. Lost $1400 bucks in that bag INCLUDING MY CAMERA. Now I have a problem no food for the dog. His water supply his hygiene and medical supplies are gone. This pissed me the fuck off and started looking at these people in a whole new light.
That night we had more of the same shit. People coming out of the darkness looking for food and water. I was giving Bravous my food and water so I had nothing to offer. One fucking prick saw me feed Bravous a can of tuna fish and said that animals don't eat before people. I said you want it you take it form him. Just then some gun fire went off real close by. It was DARK. Didn't know who shot or at what. I tackled the guy and Bravous came in for the bite but he was tied up and could reach the guy. One of the Chris one of the sheriff officers came and pulled the guy up and separated us. He was pissed but I didn't know if he was armed and was acting irrational enough to warrant his take down. The sheriff patted him down and sent his on his way as Bravous kept drooling for the bite.
Now it is on. About four something AM Bravous lets out a grumble as I lay slightly asleep against the van wheel. Several black guys two with shot guns the rest had side arms came out of the darkness. The Sheriff gave then some water and toilet paper. They asked what food we had and took three jars of peanut butter. And walked off in the darkness. The sheriffs later said we are not going to get into a fire fight that we could not win. Day light came and they decided things are way out of hand and we report back. On the way back we meet up with four Nation guards in a six wheeler. They said they are going to escort us out. We came across this town that had cars blocking the road. I was in the fourth vehicle looking out at why we stopped. Two of the Guards men got out to move the unoccupied vehicles. No keys so the six wheeler moved them. As we where pulling away shots hit the six wheeler the second vehicle and the last vehicle. Two of the guards men returned fire shooting high in the air as we floored it out of there.
FUCK THESE PEOPLE. I am sitting here unarmed nothing to do but lay low. We are in FEMA marked vehicles and these fucks are shooting at us. I want to drive but they won't let me. If I was driving I would run most of the fucks in the street down. I am so pissed at the people down there that I hope they all fucking die.
One thing about other disasters I have seen is that people cam together and helped each other. There where isolated acts of kindness but on the most part what I seen was something out of a war scene. Not sure if this si a southern Black thing but I will not go back and help them. As far as I am concerned let the floating corpse feed these fucks. Let then drink the disease stagnate water and die a slow death.
Those where not people those where something subhuman form the bellows of the earth. Someone wrote on another thread that these people are Suppressed. Yeah I would suppress them with motor fire. I hope our state guys fire on these fucks and fuck them into the swamps where the alligators can eat their asses.
It is going to take me some time to forget what asses those people where. They fucked me and I owe them one. :2guns:
God bless the military boys going in to clean up the rats.
http://www.labusas.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=69737
I was reading bottom-up and missed the thread last night (I got distracted). Today, I don't have time to edit, so let's hope I can think/type in completed text :-)
My apologies, Goro, you are right ! I didn't distinguish article from book. What I had narrowed down for TEM was taken from a HUGE pile of research called 'my book' or 'my thesis' etc. The TEM article was edited tighter than a coke commercial, so, it needed expansion, while the other 1,200 pages of data could have been framed a number of ways (needed editing). Last March, I was seeking a "yea or nay" because I was also fighting for my academic life, planning the summer and we had a baby last month ... so, I've been distracted.
My article requires the reader to interpret data on their own, draw their own conclusions. Until SunKing dropped the term, I had never thought of multi-contextuality as being what I liked - but I can't find a better term. Providing the reader with multiple layers enables them to pick and choose the context (which is WAY better than providing no context). Let the readers decide it the founding fathers were drawing their traditions from Egypt, Greece, Rome, or London. Considering the ingredients, I wanted a Goro Layer Cake - because the lie is different at every level.
The question I faced : Who to trust with a decade of original research ? It's measurable and cannot be found in ANY textbook (deliberately). It's valuable, but it has enemies. Generations have tried very hard to keep secret, but monumental Freemasonry will soon be separated from all the other "stuff". The question is how, when and where. If all goes well, the film version will be hosted by a former Canadian Heritage Minister, who was also Deputy Prime Minister).
I have every intention of putting my ideas out there for TEM readers ! If weird weather and NASA would stop conspiring to dominate the news. With all that has happened since winter, I wouldn't be surprised if RCH has not had time to take in my article yet. This Blog is proof that there are more good researchers and writers on the Enterprise than I was previously aware of, so anyone who wants to part