iles to the east of the Windward Islands."


So now, it's gotta have a better place to stomp all over, with it's suction like boots...

http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7000276170


Latter_days_aint, just got the movie, Marvin's voice was spot on... Movie was tooo short, had to know the book inside out just to get all the references, like the danger glasses, the towels etc... but agreed, the book was tops and better than that, I've just had an idea, do'Ouch!!! how much like today...

BANAL 33rd degree Vogun stone eaters, looking to encarcerate the human race into Concentration campdum whilst, slickening their NAZI oily path on their Antigravatic way to Space, before getting caught with their 33inch pants down their size 13 shoes and a GOD like 9mm pointing at their bare a$$... staying intunley tuned...

PS why do ya tink angels are shown with wings??? ;)

26/9/05 12:31 PM  
blasted said...

Man. mccanney is just rippin on scott stevens/weatherwars on his home page.

Is it just me or is mccanney so belligerent that regardless if he's right.. about anything, it aint worth always havin to wade thru all the trash talk... sad.

26/9/05 12:53 PM  
the old man from scene 24 said...

"We're still in the peak of the season here, that goes for another month or so. (It) makes me think that not only will we have more storms and hurricanes, but we could have another major hurricane or two," said Max Mayfield, director of the U.S. National Hurricane Center, on CBS' "Face the Nation" on Sunday.

26/9/05 2:04 PM  
latter_days_aint said...

So Long, And Thanks For All the Fish... Katrina Frees Military Dolphins With Frickin' Dart Guns Attached To Their Heads!

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0%2C6903%2C1577753%2C00.html

South Korea demands 33 BILLION Dollars for Evil Robots!

http://rense.com/general67/33ia.htm

Evil Oil-Sucking Supernatural Vampire Hurricanes Predicted in Crappy Made-For-Cable Movie!

http://rense.com/general67/sis.htm

You can't make this $#!t up, folks...

26/9/05 2:43 PM  
blasted said...

DR. EVIL: Give me the lump sum of--(finger gesture) one MILLION dollars, or I will feed Joxer to the sharks with laser beams attached to their heads!!

NUMBER TWO: Uh, Doctor, I've been meaning to talk to you about that--

DR. EVIL: Let me *friggin* guess, huh? The *friggin* sharks don't have *friggin* laser beams on their *friggin* heads, because even
with my all my *friggin* Evil Technology, you still can't figure out how to make a *friggin* waterproof battery pack!!

NUMBER TWO: Well, not exactly. You see, there was a mix-up in the order...so now you've got *sea otters* with laser beams on their heads.

DR. EVIL: Sea otters?

NUMBER TWO: They're practically sharks.

DR. EVIL: SEA OTTERS?!

NUMBER TWO: They both live in the ocean.

DR. EVIL: (breathes deep) At least tell me they're *evil* sea otters.

NUMBER TWO: Well...no. Cute cuddly friendly sea otters for the most part.

26/9/05 3:00 PM  
Richard C. Hoagland said...

Phidoux said...

>Richard this is fascinating stuff. My Dad has been into amateur radio for years and based on things he's figured out via his knowledge of circuitry, he's been telling me for a long time about weather manipulation. Let me know if you want to more about his theories - Jeff in Georgia. PS - I linked your entry to our blog - hope thats ok.<


Love to see more info on your Dad's experiments.

And, by all means: link the "Captain's Blog" everywhere you can .... :)

26/9/05 3:07 PM  
thestripey1 said...

Hi. New here. Interesting stuff, I must say and I also have to ask.

Were their any chemtrails evident prior to Katrina or Rita's landfalling? And if yes, in what direction were they pointing?

Because I saw chemtrail activity prior to storms approaching us here in middle california in January of this year, that seemingly pushed the storm away.

26/9/05 3:12 PM  
crypt0 said...

Atlantis Blueprint started off as science and ended with spin. That's what happens when you join a clique (pity).

Stonehenge is equidistant between Jerusalem and L'Anse-aux-Meadows in Newfoundland. In modern terms, if you get on a plane in Jerusalem bound for Gander Newfoundland, when you get to the half-way point in your journey, look down and you'll see Stonehenge.

26/9/05 3:19 PM  
Thunderbolt 2012 said...

Too long to post but definitely worth the read. To some it will be food, to others poison. So be it.

http://www.rense.com/general67/znsm.htm

26/9/05 3:32 PM  
jasgrave333 said...

LOLOL, touche, what the hell is flippy the ANTI-TERRORIST fin of death rampaging the outer regions of the Gulf Coast armed with the Bond Dolphin Suite of termination... and WHAT THE HELL DID WINDSURFERS EVER DO TO ANY ONE???



"My concern is that they have learnt to shoot at divers in wetsuits who have simulated terrorists in exercises. If divers or windsurfers are mistaken for a spy or suicide bomber and if equipped with special harnesses carrying toxic darts, they could fire,' he said. 'The darts are designed to put the target to sleep so they can be interrogated later, but what happens if the victim is not found for hours?'"



I mean So long and thanks for the sharks Dolphins... darn AWOL's,

I heard a MARCH of 'em just went by WALES (England this Spring) I mean you reall cannot make this stuff up...

"Next thing you know there would be cat's and dog's living together , total chaos" - Bill Murray 'Ghost Busters'


Anyone sitting in the Pent house of Doom right now, duck!

Quack whatever you have to do, this is not another test...

Wierd just left and Strange decided that it was beyond his Job description to explain the next coming set of events, but all in tune, can explain the fairground ride of political commedians antics next...

26/9/05 3:32 PM  
the old man from scene 24 said...

Various people wrote:
Most of these same people completly 'forgave and forgot' the previous president lying directly to us about his 'sex' life!

Yes, Clinton's lies about a beej are equally as nefarious as lying us into a war where almost 2,000 American soldier have died. The math speaks for itself.


There was a woman in a rural part of the country who could apparently "smell" the weather. She could stick her nose out the door, take a sniff and know what the weather was going to do for the next few days!

My wife thinks I'm crazy when I tell her I smell snow, but when I do, we usually get snow within the week. We don't get much snow around here, so the law of averages don't count.

Paraphrasing Sword - Noble: We got to get us some of those.

Yeah, I like that storyline. I plan to use it someday.

Of course, the really interesting thing is that when the Mongols came along, they laid seige to the Assassin's mountain and destroyed their fortress. To paraphrase Merlin - there's always something badder than yourself.

26/9/05 3:38 PM  
crypt0 said...

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26/9/05 3:39 PM  
crypt0 said...

RE : Toronto as a place name

If you're searching for the origin of place names, be very careful of anything written by Alan Rayburn or Helen Kerfoot. They were (formerly) in charge of the Geographic Names Board of Canada - which puts out deliberately created propaganda. Also clouding their impartiality, both wrote most of the recent books being distributed by GNBC's SchoolNet, so they have TWO reasons to track origin and ignore/avoid provenance like the plague deliberately.

Can you tell I've had dealings with both ?

The REAL provenance of the name Toronto comes from the Imperial alphabet table and that determined the position of the point on the land where THAT name would be allowed. The name drifted because the route survey was corrected by the topographical survey.

Alan Rayburn recently wrote some 'stuff' about Orleans, Ontario, which I plan on taking a closer look at this Fall.

Toronto was called "York".

York Factory, York, Ontario and New York City are all equidistant from Jerusalem ... as are Fort Albany and Albany, New York ... and Hudson Bay and Hudson River.
For the record, there is no such thing as aboriginal toponomy - and if there was, it was never dutifully transcribed by Britain or Canada ... in fact, colonialism is ALL about ignoring the existing (aboriginal) divisions on the land.

Sadly, the stories about place names are officialized, but that doesn't make them true.

26/9/05 3:48 PM  
T'zemt said...

Some bits and pieces--

To Jasgrave333:

Here is the URL for a good basic online article about the Ismailis:

http://www.iis.ac.uk/learning/life_long_learning/assassin_legends/assassin_legends.htm

It is probably better to start with a good overview before taking a swipe at more 'speculative' stuff. There is a solid vein of entheogen use in Islam: the Sufis talked about El Khidr (the Green man, who I know you have mentioned) as a Guide. Supposedly, El Khidr was Moses' Teacher, and the Sufis held that anyone who happened to run into El Khidr and then wound up being taught by him was a de-facto Sufi, even if not a member of an 'officially sanctioned' Sufi lineage.

Positive publicity:

There is a large, prominently posted article by Andrew Johnson on Phenomena Magazine's home page today. It mentions Richard Hoagland by name, and fully supports the Iapetus-is-artificial position.

Regarding neocons as Vulcan-wannabes:

The idea is from the book, 'The Rise of the Vulcans: The History of Bush's War Cabinet' by Jim Mann. Alas for them, they are no such thing-- 'stunted and/or repressed emotions' and 'emotional control' are two *very* different things. Plus there is also the following Vulcan axiom to consider: 'The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or of the one...' I can't see that Katrina and the FEMA aftermath of same shows any concern at all for 'the needs of the many', nor does all the *poutin' and shoutin'* these folks routinely indulge in show that they have anything at all akin to emotional control. So as Vulcans, they are non-starters, however, they are looking more and more like textbook sociopaths with every day that goes by.

Live Long and Prosper (or as the Spanish proverb says, 'The best revenge is living well...'),

T'zemt

26/9/05 4:03 PM  
s2ndsight said...

Lots of people here agree with you, otherwise, they would probably not be reading your site. But I don't see any deliberate statement in your theory that could be used to disprove it. Do you have any such test?

I believe you have discovered the "shadow" of HD energy. I believe you have shown how HD energy, whatever "it" is, is manifested in planetary systems weather patterns... including our own planet. I believe you have very strong arguments to indicate that our current understanding of physics is missing critical details. I just don't believe there is any evidence that somebody is controlling, manipulating, or otherwise doing anything but reacting to the weather. If the weather IS being manipulated, the intent is to bankrupt us. Supposedly, Reagan bankrupted the USSR with his military spending... his administration took credit for it anyway.

There are examples of pentagonal symmetry all over nature... it doesn't mean somebody is controlling the formation of wild orchids or apple cores.

I also believe it wouldn't be too terribly difficult to deliberately manipulate NEXRAD radar loops for you guys to swoop down on. But I think it's far more likely that there is some current technological explaination for anomalies in radar images.

In your God, Man, and ET series, you went to some trouble to make sure there was at least some dissenting opinions presented... but I felt sorry for the guy. He was obviously outnumbered and left speechless when it came to answering lots of your questions. But I think right or not, your premise is often based on an unfair combination of assumptions, unexplained anomaly and highly intriguing historical evidence. Just because a person can't tell you precisely why they think you are wrong, doesn't mean you are right. I personally think you are dead-on about some unbelievable things. I just don't want to see you led out into the woods and shot!

I'm not smart enough to be your devils advocate. But I'm trying. We know very little about weather patterns that span 1000's of years on our planet. We know very little... period.

26/9/05 4:30 PM  
IonTruO2 said...

Crypto, Hello

re: Great add-on update,correction.

You were saying: For the record, there is no such thing as aboriginal toponomy - and if there was, it was never dutifully transcribed by Britain or Canada ... in fact, colonialism is ALL about ignoring the existing (aboriginal) divisions on the land.

--->What about places like Kanata or particularly Ottawa? Having some involvement with native tradition, I thought these were derived from their language?

I have read "Stolen Continents" and other good true history and know quite well just how bad the vast society of the indiginous here was destroyed by the toxicity of the European intrusion.

Not to stray to far OT, but you've got me curious, yet really not suprised. DO tell.

26/9/05 4:36 PM  
Anonymous said...

jasgrave333 said...
So a pirate, Knight, Ganga Rasta, is actually an 'Assasin', as in tormentor, and the message deliver or one of these 'non' christians, was 'THE' Assasin...

I lead this straight back to REVELATION 9, (CAT 'O' NINE TALES) Rev 9, speaks of these 'TORMENTORS' (locust like ones with STINGS IN THEIR TALES hi hi hi) be 'prophesied' to return with GOD's blessing and are "Assasins" Sword?

You are perhaps the most confused person I have ever encountered. :-)
The point I was trying to make, and probaly didn't clairify is that "black-op's" is just another version of MAD. Technology is "new" to this culture. What did you do in the 11th century when muslim ninjas where running all over the place taking out Knights and cuaseing general havok... ...you go get your own ninja's. [NOTE: I find it very intresting that online reffrances of assasian only reffer to Muslims... "Assasins" -or- Hashisians - WHERE NOT only from the middle east - NOR where the first to employ this method of training/warfare]
My attempt earlier Jas - was to seperate myself from The Order of the Knights of Malta/Templar and my orginization: Sword (still Knights of Malta/Templar) which is of its own seperate lodge and teachings. I want to be very clear who is affiliated with whom before the real DISCLOSER happens and everybody think where something else.

While it is everyones god given right to bash the Masons - but - looking around - I know we outnumber those who wish us ill... ...zo, with that being said - The NEW generations of Masons(Lion/Kiwanis Masons included) are VERY tired of hideing as criminals from ingnorant uneducated rabble. Part of DISCLOSER is the acts of the newer generation Masons preforming the three pillars of their faith, which are FAITH, HOPE, & CHARITY - openly - public - as Masons and almost in a "In your face" attitude way to THE MAN.

In any event - did any catch "West-Wing" last night? If you did, you might have cuaght the "Messonic emblem" in the first scene worn as a lapel pin by a White House Staffer. You might have also caught the fact that in the second scene - right after first commerical break. The president (not to sure on this) says to the Cheif of staff: "What do we tell the russians? Tell them that the armored space shuttle that we flatly deny we have will be leaveing Vanderburg in hours...." VANDERBURG! HELLO! What a dam cowinkie dink huh?

Rich has posted an article regarding some of the INCREADABLE messages hidden in this show. West Wing is FULL (every episode has increable Masonic overtones - not just with script - but with imagery and symbolism (signs...tick tock tick tock) :-).

I'd love to hear what Rich might say about this "opening move"...

Sir(?) Richard - what say you?

Sword

26/9/05 4:49 PM  
SSL4000G said...

Man I am either paranoid or the weather is really wierd. I'm SE of Philadelphia and the clouds ocerhead are moving from the west at a pretty good speed enough to say, man those clouds are moving fast. But the flag out front is moving 90 degrees in a different direction. Is that normal? I don't recall ever seeing that before.

26/9/05 5:08 PM  
crypt0 said...

There's some flat earth maps here :
http://len333.tripod.com/greetings/

26/9/05 5:09 PM  
jasgrave333 said...

I try not to be sword...

...it's just all this reading, it's a wilderness... [tumble weed blowing by office desk...]

u get the picture, I've been studying this a while... I'm getting there... the whole planet has got 'incredeable Mascnic overtones' not just a film or a scrit...

It's about time all you with a little power, stood up and stamped out the burning BUSH, before your supreme intervenves with his usual antisocial initial hello's...

26/9/05 5:18 PM  
Anonymous said...

jasgrave333 said...
...the whole planet has got 'incredeable Mascnic overtones'...

YES! And guess what buddy, its just not OUR planet. Something tells me that when grasped Mars will show A L, as will Idepitus(sp?). Why do I think that? Beacuse nothing can be built without the tools of the trade. A Compas and a Square.

Don't worry about Bush - he's only a face card player.

Sword

26/9/05 5:25 PM  
crypt0 said...

The central theme to my thesis is to drive home the idea that "the map is not the territory".

The map is the chart formed by putting the onomasticon (name generator) over top of the coastlines and rivers (to be named).

Names like Penetanguishene, Ontario or Oconomonowoc, Michigan look/sound like a bona-fide Indian word to the untrained eye because it doesn't seem to be a typical European place name ... but that doesn't mean it wasn't a string of characters assembled into a word BY a European.

The test is to look at the alphabet table to see that these names form a scale map of Canada and the United States. The unusual names typically connects with other names to form a coastline. It's 18th and 19th century shape from shading ...

I think the Waterstone of the Wise would explain names like Kanata as being the same as Canada. The quote is "fools - who take our words at their literal meaning" - phonetics is the interpretion that works.

Phonetics is how the fake names & words were grafted onto those Indian languages (codified by Europeans).

Captain Cook knew BEFORE he got off his ship that HE would name the most important Chief he met "Seattle" based on the political position of the place - at that stage of the game, the position on the map and the territory were indistinguishable, because all information came from an Imperial source. This would be used to prove divinity to the (dare I say) "Indians" ...

Indians were called Indians because the guy who got in a ship - went looking for India. On the paper model, it was India, so the natives on the ground were called "Indians" because the map takes precedence over the territory.

Rule Britannia !
Britannia Rules the Waves !

26/9/05 5:26 PM  
jasgrave333 said...

Well den Sword, am twiddling thumbs and waiting for an ANTI GRAVITY VEHICLE TO LAND SOMEWHERE CNN CANT IGNORE IT...

is that so hard?

so CNN also just reported 1033 killed in the RITA storm [sound of parrot inflating...]

26/9/05 5:34 PM  
aworldnervelink said...

Boy, critical thinking is in short supply around here. Any anomaly which is centered upon the radar itself is ABSOLUTELY MEANINGLESS, because of the well-documented and numerous ways in which NEXRAD can malfunction. If you can find an image of such vortexes from a different perspective, not centered on the radar itself, then you might have something. Due to the scale of the purported manipulation and the density of the NEXRAD stations this should not be that difficult...

26/9/05 6:30 PM  
Anonymous said...

was bush at norcom to see for his damnself the effects of the blocking manuever?

there is no way the to keep the pitchforks from the white house if the houston refineries were hit and disabled causing gasaoline and heating prices to gouge/spike to double the currant rate. hell a whammy like that and who could stop iran from making good on their opec threats?hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?

is the katrina/rita quadhurricains in floridah lasat year karma for what hapopened in Bam iran hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
bwahahaha its fookun possible ya know

http://itwassooted.blogspot.com/

26/9/05 7:02 PM  
IonTruO2 said...

T'zemt, Hello

The outcome of the "Rita" healing work effort was "as it should be". Well done. The step down from level 5 was distinct and timely, and the harm to people was greatly reduced to essentially nil.
I felt infrastructure would suffer, but that is oddly an outcome that helps, through the focus of restoration and resconstruction that follows.
Working from a position of Satsang with All, I am "in relationship" consciously or sympathetically with other scales of existence. From my home position, I threaded a conscious feeling/thought stream from here to Tremblant prior to traveling
on friday the 23rd. Connnection and was immediate with the "mountain of the spirits" and intensified as I arrived at the Tremblant area. A
benevolent welcome from these very conscious ancient ones was received. Ear.nestly heart centered, I used direct communication of my intention and requested various "actions", in harmony with yours, and yes
Palomar was in the link of dialoguing, of course. To turn a word from spinning a thought, I simply request of the ancient manifest ones' what is needed to
occur. Details, a little hard to phrase in this forum here. So those nested conicals with their
columnal qualities easily siphoned off and reconverted the excesses of "Rita", Yum!.
Most notably I was heart invoking the Ruchira Buddha ADI DA, to feel our request across this
Human and Mountainous scale of mutual response.
It all felt appropriately measured, no instant silver bullet grand quick fix, just right to collaberatively diffuse the "Rita.liation" with natural subtlty.
I feel a much more significant response was possible but consciously not necessary. There is a larger energy picture to address,yes, and it may be resolved but not without some stresses to the current societal presentation. We all know it is unsustainable and must be allowed to expressly appear in a more mutual equanimity, allowing for the real transcendent process here to actually occur unencumbered by these dualistic halves, in their struggle of the apparent opposites.
Both halves will have some rude awakenings, for they are persistent in their dominance and
instensifying in their collective Egoity.
Forget Christ or Anti-Christ returning, we are way beyond that stage of the WAY, The God Being of true Reality's Totality is now(already) before
us!! The One that is [ Da ], is embodied here and
Brightening us Now. How sad we are all still searching and avoiding, unable to realiz Captain's Blog: "Hyperdimensional Katrina": Scientific Evidence -- NEW Rita Update! -- 7:33 PM- 9/26/05

Monday, September 26, 2005

"Hyperdimensional Katrina": Scientific Evidence -- NEW Rita Update! -- 7:33 PM- 9/26/05


As we watch another "monster storm," Hurricane Rita (above), bear down on the Texas/Louisiana Coast -- the second catastrophic disaster to hit this region in only three weeks (!) -- we have a major new development to report in our on-going "Hyperdimensional Katrina Investigation":


This sequence of New Orleans' NEXRAD radar data (above) is in our opinion (and that of other experts who have now looked at it our behest ...) a proverbial "smoking gun"--

Strongly indicating now that Hurricane Katrina was, in fact, an artificially manipulated hurricane -- and ... specifically targeted for the City of New Orleans!

The startling evidence supporting this preliminary confirmation lies in a frame-by-frame analysis of this official National Weather Service "radar loop."

* * *

The first thing one notices in looking at these frames, are the bizarre, extraordinarily regular "vorticular patterns" marching across the image (below) -- slowly rotating across the field of view in the span of the 18 minutes represented by the sequence. At first glance, this geometry could easily be mistaken for an image of the slowly rotating "feeder bands of rain" in the fully-developed hurricane itself ....

Until ... one looks closer at the DATE of this particular NEXRAD radar image sequence:


August 17, 2005 -- fully 12 days BEFORE Katrina hit New Orleans!!

Obviously, then, this official National Weather Service radar data CANNOT be from the landfall of Hurricane Katrina ... which didn't come ashore in southern Louisiana until the wee hours of August 29th!

In fact, here's what the official radar loop (below) of Katrina's actual landfall on the 29th, from the same NEXRAD station, looked like:

So, what makes the loop from the 17th -- twelve days earlier -- so unusual ...?

This!

This image (below) is the last pre-sunset GEOS visual satellite image of the Louisiana area from the same day as the New Orleans' radar "anomaly" -- August 17th.

As you can see, it reveals a few thunderstorms situated to the north and west of New Orleans the City ... but in the area northeast of the City -- where those peculiar "radar bands" are locasted in the close-up -- there are no clouds or precipitation at all!


Here's the visual close-up (below); notice all that TOTALLY CLEAR AIR to the east o63136937850"> erik m johnson said...

blackbeard...you originally posted the bit about 3 FEMA employees being hung in New Orleans. I told you I wrote to the website that originally posted that story to try and verify it and that I would share with you any response that I received. I recently received the following response from Walter Storch at tbrnews:

"I received this story, and quite a few other ones, from a communicant in New Orleans. Most of the stories were from the New Orleans 'Times Picayune' and contained local matrial not available on the internet or in the mainline media. I do not know what ;FKK; stands for.

I saw no reason whatsoever to doubt this, given the gross misconduct on the part of FEMA, and I published it. If I had thought it were fake, I would not have done so. Following this, I was flooded by emails from people wanting more information...which I could not give them.

It has been my policy to expose the silly nonsense that floods the blogs. CIA mind control, Russians blowing up the WTC, atomic bombs destroying Houston last year, weather control, secret electrical waves used to set off the SEA tsunami, the indictment of Bush and Cheney by a mythical 'Chicago Federal Grand Jury' and many other such fictions.

Needless to say, bloggers who reveled in the attention they were getting from their urban legends were most unhappy but since we get 30-40 thousand hits a day, I could frankly care less if a few were outraged. A few are always outraged; by higher gas prices, by the cancellation of a favorite TV program, by increased Christmas tree prices and on and on.

Two communicants have told me that one of them saw pictures of the hanging looters on local television and another advised me that one of her friends had verified the existance of the three FEMA gutted danglers.

I have now moved on to other matters, including the story about a giant Hidden Hand magnet pulling Rita on shore, and there is absolutely no way to check on this. As I said, if I thought it was bogus, I would not have run it.

Given the inarticulate rage directed, and rightly so, against FEMA for their criminial stupidity in New Orleans and given the lawlessness manifested by those who looted and also shot at aircraft on rescue missions, I find that on balance, the story is probably true and if it wasn't, it probably should have been. You could contact FEMA but as most of them are busy counting their loot from Katrina, I seriously doubt if they would respond and besides, busloads of them are soon going to Houston to see about making more money.

I trust I have been able to address your concerns.

Walter Storch"

26/9/05 11:57 PM  
Richard C. Hoagland said...

Gort said...

>Richard,
120 degrees west of New Orleans, or 120 degrees east of Giza is in the western Pacific, slightly southeast of Japan near a deep trench in the ocean floor (by my reconning , and an old 1960s atlas)
The forth tetrahdral point would be the South Pole. What secret operations are going on down there?
Remember Mrs. Bush christening a supply ship? :) Isn't the south pole controlled by the good old navy? :)
The symetrical opposite tetrahron would have points on the north pole and three locations on 30 degrees south latitude. Those three would all be in the oceans. (30 west, 120 west, and 90 east.)
Just thinking out loud and offering more dots.
Bucky Fuller said the Phoenicians, the Venetians, and the Vikings were all the same seafaring peoples, just operationg out of different ports in different times. old navy, indeed :)
Gort<




One correction: the actual "tetrahedral points" on a globe -- space 120 degrees apart -- at at 19.5 degrees .... And, of course, the one on the north (or south) pole itself.

The "120-degree spacing" of three "sacred sites" around the Earth -- at New Orlean's (and Giza's) latitude, as well as that point in the Pacific at the same ~30-degree latitude -- is a RITUAL reenactment of the PRIMARY HD relationship at 19.5 degrees ....

27/9/05 12:04 AM  
Anonymous said...

Like I said:
Oreos, milk, UNO - Yatzee.
All secrectly hidden in the darkest depths of the Library of Congress.
There is no secrect knock, you must answer riddles like: What is you favorite color? What is pi? How much wood can a Woodchuck chuck if a wood chuck could chuck wood? And: Who's your daddy?
The music - easy listening. The vibe:Pocket protectors and sock suspenders.

In one corner sharpening one of two katana's is a solider in black boots, black BDU (Battle Dress Uniform for the civillian mind), black gloves, and a black skin tight hood. Only this mans eyes are testiment to the soul that lurks beyond. He is listening quietly as his brothers speak of truth, rumor, and how hot Counsoler Troy was in the latter STTNG. The man has a hidden smile, for none shall see it, regardless it is there. Truth, Brotherhood - and good will twords ALL MEN is only one thing on his mind.

Flying golden shems, boys who really never truley grow up, and the pursuit of tangiable truth - all these things ring true. The framers got EXACTLEY what they wanted, and knowing this the solider stops sharpening his swords and rests, patienatly he waits for the day his men are called to fight for the very truths he has upheld. The men around him at the festival of GEEK, brothers, breathren - all seekers of some sort of universal truth. A kinship if you may, for the Men of the Sword - even if the lifestyles represented are two completly diffrent ends of the spectrum.

First addmendment. Second admendment. Both support each other for you cant have one without the will of the second. Some men are willing to die for both, deffending it with there very souls - the others utilizing it to there god given potential to better there fellow man.

Boy! Thats a drunken rant!

Anyone ever heard "Man in black" by the late Mr. Cash?
Robert (please change your picture - I feel as if I'm replaying ot the Uni-Bommers brother :-))I will say unto you that soon your champions - that is - the Army of One will have some very insperational television commercials. You heard it here first.

On a personal note (to loved ones missed - and reading) The ORIGINAL version of Mamma Said is inspirational to US ALL. But not let us forget the wake our mortal vessels leave behind - and our personal responsibility to our own families legacy. For its what you leave behind... ...

Sword

27/9/05 12:19 AM  
crypt0 said...

T'zemt said...
>What is important here is *not* numbers of people thinking one thing versus numbers of people thinking another. That particular mindset (which holds the mistaken idea that one 'mass-thought' will 'inevitably win/lose' over another) is part of what is passing away.<

... and I cheered !

Religion offers us a world view outside of the State-sponsored one. That is why it is so vulnerable to manipulation. The use of 3, 33 and 333 are designed to force people to doubt the State-sponsored world view, reinforced by capitalism (when it suits capitalism) and when they doubt, they turn to the "other" non-local reality, which usually means organized religion, or the mystery cults of Christianity. People breaking out of that trap end up in a State-sponsored secret society, particularly the ones that were started by the British Crown.

Sword said...
>The point I was trying to make, and probably didn't clairify is that "black-ops" is just another version of MAD. Technology is "new" to this culture. What did you do in the 11th century when muslim ninjas where running all over the place taking out Knights and causing general havoc... ...you go get your own ninja's. [NOTE: I find it very interesting that online references of assassin only refer to Muslims... "Assasins" -or- Hashisians - WERE NOT only from the middle east - NOR were the first to employ this method of training/warfare]<

and I cheered again !!
(I'm reading bottom to top)

T'zemt said...
>The idea is from the book, 'The Rise of the Vulcans: The History of Bush's War Cabinet' by Jim Mann. Alas for them, they are no such thing-- 'stunted and/or repressed emotions' and 'emotional control' are two *very* different things.

...So as Vulcans, they are non-starters, however, they are looking more and more like textbook sociopaths with every day that goes by.<


You know what they say :

no brain no pain ...
no sense no feeling.

The old man from scene 24 said...
>Of course, the really interesting thing is that when the Mongols came along, they laid seige to the Assassin's mountain and destroyed their fortress. To paraphrase Merlin - there's always something badder than yourself.<

I thnk the Mongols are the key to understanding history.

27/9/05 12:23 AM  
unipax said...

jasgrave333 said...


>assassins... From this came the name for the secret order as a whole, an, “hashish users.” After passing through French or Italian, the word came into English and is recorded in 1603 with reference to the Muslim Assassins."<


<



I once heard this story re the 'hashishins' : Supposedly hashishins is the origin of the word assassin, according to this account. Anyhoo, story said the candidiates in the secret order were at some point in their training heavily drugged, taken to 'paradise'...a beautiful elegant palace featuring fine foods, servants, and of course, each candidate was assigned a compliment of (33?) black eyed virgins eager to please him. Then, after (what, 19.5 days?), they would be drugged again, and they would wake up back at the assassin school. They were then told that they would return to 'paradise' after serving unto death the cause of their secret order.
:-)

27/9/05 12:40 AM  
wayne5 said...

cryptO said,

I thnk the Mongols are the key to understanding history.

Well reading almost any history leads to understanding, however GHENGIS KHAN, had a lot going for him. He killed all the eliete because he considered them the "worthless eaters" and kept the working class because he believed they were worth something. I think he is misunderstood for the most part.

Sword, you are not without resources yourself. (sorry about the double negative)

27/9/05 12:47 AM  
zebowho said...

Ok everyone...anyone interested, the next four zip archives have been uploaded to Roberts Yahoo Group..http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cydonia_Smoking_Room/files/.

These will be kept up for a few days and then I'll upload the last four files. After that...maybe the complete loop but we'll see, I'm not sure yet the final file size of that one. ;)

Just in case anyone is wondering, I created the original psd files at 300 dpi just to make sure that I didn't make the released "low res" images any worse.

Huge thanks again to Robert for the free space!

-z

27/9/05 12:54 AM  
Richard C. Hoagland said...

nose_to_the_wind said...

>M:-
wonder if a few tried that and if that might explain the radar images. However if they are subject to Coriolis effects as the radar images appear to it sounds quite difficult to get an opposite spin going. Still I'm not aware of any documented evidence regarding the orgone theory and I hope this scenario wasn't true, because then if you follow the theory through a few overzealous new-agers may well have doomed the entire city.<


Documentation on contemporary results of research into Wilhelm Reich's theories and experiments can be found here:

http://www.aetherometry.com/index.html

27/9/05 12:58 AM  
Anonymous said...

Intresting.
If you could cite that story - that would be wonderful. Hell, if theres a waiting list - put me on it... ...

If anyone is concerned regarding the origin of those specialists called Assasins - one should look to China. China? Yes - China. Originally, men and wemon of the area whom wished to whorship and live FREE on there own accord formed into tight "clans" far away and high up into the mountains (out of sight out of mind). These clans orginainaly came up with martial arts. (Weng Chung - oldest form know of martial arts). Martial arts could be taught to anyone, and required no weapons - and could be done secretly. (Thats what you call a "Quick and dirty" history catch up...)

Of course an area of culture with eight millinum's worth of recorded history (eight thousand years maties) will have reffrances (very early) to "the leaf". I spent alot of time in libraries when I was younger. Consdiering the FACT that China lay in a very large continental mass - and having FOOT access to many other cultures - I find it highly INPROABLABLE that ONLY the Mulslim culture of the time would have both access to these "teaching's" but would be "ball-zee" enough to start it on its own. Impossible. Nobles and kings of yesterday are the same as presidents and "other" leaders today. If you see a weapon your enemy has and you don't have it - your going to go to every length you can - even traveling the world over - to get THAT weapon in your pocket as well. Muslims the first recorded "assasins"? Maybe in Britin - but - what - seven thoasand miles away on another ocean (The source) and nobody knows about it? C'Mon! What is this double speak from 1984?

What am I trying ot say: That the U.S. has its own Ninja's? Yes, but, there not nesscerily "Assasains"... ...
That's such a harsh word for such fine, exemplary, dedicated young men and wemon... ...

Sword

27/9/05 1:10 AM  
Sean Cotoz said...

> What proof is there that hurricanes and weather patterns have not worked like this in the past? We have geological proof they have cycles of 50 to 75 years just like the sun. The difference is we have "radar" but NOTHING - not one damn FACT - to compare it to years of research. Again Hoaxland is making up facts to sell his stupid theories and books. <

Yes, it may certainly turn out these strange radar anomalies turn out to be common formerly-misunderstood natural weather signatures. Or they could turn out to be a list of other things. Richard Hoagland bringing attention to this anomaly and presenting a possible theory does not mean that theory is carved in stone. It's only by asking questions will we get closer to understanding the truth, whatever that truth might be. Mr. Hoagland isn't hoaxing anything as you try to claim. He's only saying 'look at these unique radar readings; let's figure out what they are'. Everybody here knows that. Your attempt to slander Hoagland really only makes yourself look silly.

Sean

27/9/05 1:13 AM  
Richard C. Hoagland said...

blasted said...

>Richard;
>>"The Monuments of Mars: A City on the Edge of Forever" (5th Edition ...<<

>I have the 1st edition. Has enough changed to merit a new copy?? or can I glean it from your site?<



Are you kidding? :)

I added about a hundred pages !) -- between the 1st and 5th Editions, as well as tons of NEW images ... and more in-depth discussions of the HD Physics.

Take the leap ....

We (Enterprise) can use the money. :)

27/9/05 1:14 AM  
Anonymous said...

I have had in my possesion all additions.
Why "have had" - beacuse I give BOOKS away.
I recently bought another 5th ed. I hope it stays longer than the last one. (Beacuse it isn't a cheap paperback - its got meat!)

Sword

27/9/05 1:18 AM  
Richard C. Hoagland said...

Anonymous said...

>So, Captain, What is the concensus on when and where the NEXT 'attack' will occur? I subscribe to the theory of total economic breakdown for our country and am looking to relocate to our family own land in CO. Unfortunately I worry about the proximaty of the Military. Seems to me anything near CO would be useless because of this. Anything blowing in the wind on this?

>Spreadin' da word...

>SKG<



Well, we still have about two months to go in the official "hurricane" season ... and there are TWO storms currently forming in the Carribean.

If this IS a series of "attacks" on the US for "economic purposes" -- to cripple the US economy -- [and the President's actions during Rita's landfall (the bunker thing ...) makes one strongly suspect that], it makes one also STRONGLY suspect ANOTHER Gulf hurricane ... again, attempting to target the Galveston/Houston area refineries.

In terms of being "near military" during the coming events: that might not be a totally BAD thing ... certainly if the "social fabric" were to seriously begin to break down as fuel and other surtages occur ... such as occurred in New Orleans.

This is why we MUST expose what's REALLY going on ... and change it!

27/9/05 1:30 AM  
Richard C. Hoagland said...

Anonymous said...

>Hey Richard,

>I waited for baited breath on the news from China today! I remembered checking world weather just after Katrina and saw that China got blasted with a Typhoon with the same power and guess what, today on Fox News, they are reporting that a similar Typhoon just hit with winds of 125mph and is being described as the biggest to hit the region since 1973!!

>Seems like tit for tat doesn't it??

>http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,170409,00.html<



One can't help but think of that scenario, can one ...? :)

But ... to what end?

27/9/05 1:46 AM  
Richard C. Hoagland said...

Thunderbolt 2012 said...

>Richard,
Have you ever personally witnessed the operation of the Bearden Motionless Electromagnetic Generator that he has on his website? Can you verify COP?<



No, I have not.

27/9/05 2:04 AM  
Gort said...

Richard, just tuned in after you posted update. Got caught up.
Most interesting about Rita scurrying on "back east."
A few nights ago, I took my dogs out in the backyard during the Tonight Show. I looked straight up and saw low clouds overhead, maybe about 3,000 feet or lower. Directly over my house I was seeing a split in the clouds, with the edges of the clouds on either side showing square and rectangular edges. One side of the split was moving slightly ahead of the other, so the edges didn't match up directly across from each other, but I could see the pattern of edges on one side repeated on the other side, with the same square or rectangle protruding on one side, and cut out from the other side.
The problem is I didn't write it down and note the date and time.
I think it was Thursday or Friday evening. And it was between 10:30 and 11:30 pm Central time.
I've read about such cut-out shapes in clouds on Scott Stevens web site, but I had never seen them live. It was truly "high weirdness." :)
The clouds were illuminated from above by the moon, and I could see dark sky and stars in the opening.
Clouds were moving due west to due east. the edges reminded me of "square waves" in electronics, etc., but were not repetitious.
Looking again at the rectangular shapes on the first update, lined up west to east, I wondered if what I saw was related. I am in Columbia, MO, north of Lousiana and Arkansas. (Jf the City [located between Lake Pontchartrain (the red oval above the words "New Orleans") and the top of the "boot" below it, representing the Mississippi delta extending out into the Gulf of Mexico]--

Right where those peculiar radar bands are the heaviest (below)!

Just what the hell is going on!?

Radar images on the National Weather Service NEXRAD image loops are created by transmitted radar energy (from the radar antenna) being reflected back to that same antenna, as a function of azimuth (a 360-degree position, relative to the transmitter). The NEXRAD system "refreshes" these images every 6 minutes -- revealing precipitation (rain, or hail or snow) within hundreds of miles of the antenna. Sometimes, when birds are migrating ... or insects are swarming in the Spring ... the radar system can detect echoes from objects OTHER than raindrops or snowflakes ... but that is very rare.

In this case, two highly patterned, incredibly regular, slowly-rotating "vortices" -- one northeast of New Orleans, the other to the south, and in TOTALLY CLEAR AIR! -- are reflecting strong echoes BACK to the NEXRAD antenna ... when there's NOTHING suspended in that air for the radar beam to be reflecting from!!

Totally inexplicable ... by any standard meteorological measure.

And, in case you have any remaining doubts about the truly anomalous nature of this August 17th New Orleans' radar loop, here (below) is a simultaneous infrared series of GEOS satellite images from UNISYS (a commerical weather corporation, offering National Weather Service data to its clients) of the same area ... and covering the same time period (note the time code at the top-right of the graphic).

As can be seen, clouds (the bright areas -- and their associated precipitation) are totally missing from this eastern and southern region ... in the same time frame and region covered by the mysterious radar loop!

Yet, the anomalous "radar bands" of August 17, 2005 persist ... centered on New Orleans.

Just like a giant "bulls eye" was somehow being painted on the Crescent City ... 12 days before Katrina struck.

* * *

That, in fact, is exactly what our "hyperdimensional model" for Hurricane Katrina is proposing: that what we are seeing in this extraorust shy of 39 North and about 92.3 west)
Gort (ready to get horizontal)

27/9/05 2:04 AM  
crypt0 said...

Sword said...
>What am I trying ot say: That the U.S. has its own Ninja's? Yes, but, there not nesscerily "Assasains"... ...
That's such a harsh word for such fine, exemplary, dedicated young men and wemon...<

Ninja would be commandos and Navy Seals like former Minn Governor Jesse the Body Ventura. Black Ops are something other. If Black Ops was involved with "national" self-defense, THEY would be in Iraq, (not our best & brightest). If Black Ops were like Assassins, they would be commandos dropped into Baghdad to take out Saddam Hussein. The problem is, that would leave Iraq to the Iraqis. So, poor people turn their ploughshares into swords while Black Ops sit back home, cowering at an undisclosed location ... massaging public opinion with psy-ops and meta-propaganda.

Black Ops are not part of the military belonging to the people. The Will of the People (who usually want peace) is the enemy of Black Ops. It's easy to understand why a post WWII President would want to create, or keep ninja's around, "just in case" ... but after six decades, Black Ops isn't saving lives or preventing wars. It's a tool of Industry, suppressing technology to maintain profits in the name of "national security".

27/9/05 2:06 AM  
Anonymous said...

Holy Shit!
Are you MAD!
Commandos? Seals?

Crypt0 said:
If Black Ops was involved with "national" self-defense, THEY would be in Iraq, (not our best & brightest)."

How do you know there not? Just beacuse you don't see it on CNN dosen't mean its not there and happening. Somewhere out there there is a photo-jurnolist that has actual photographs of "religious" murals AND of Sword in action. What are you? Completly out of the loop? NOT our best and Brightest? My platoon SGT has a PHD for Christ sake! Thats an insuolt beyond all comrehension! Cowering in a undisclosed location! Are you MAD! Cowering! HAH!

crypt0 said...
"Black Ops are not part of the military belonging to the people."

My opinon of you has lowered. Seriously. You have called the Men of the Sword cowardly, not so bright, and quite certainly not the best. You won't deal with me - just, THEM. He hehe he he. We have never been a tool of industry, but an impliment of the presidents and the holy fathers wrath. Surpressing technology? What almost baltant unsuprression do you need from me - freind?

I do not know if you are an American Crypt0 - but, it's not advisable to slap the men on "nightwatch" across the face with slander! Cowards! Holy Cow! That's ball-zee!

Damm Crypt0 - and I thought I was a "lurker" - your a dam torpedo!

Holy trout batman!

Has anyone traced my IP yet? I'm SURE you have! TRUTH! Let them ALL know the TRUTH!

Sword

27/9/05 2:30 AM  
Richard C. Hoagland said...

T'zemt said...

>... Positive publicity:

>There is a large, prominently posted article by Andrew Johnson on Phenomena Magazine's home page today. It mentions Richard Hoagland by name, and fully supports the Iapetus-is-artificial position ...

>T'zemt<




A LINK, dear lady ...? :)

27/9/05 2:33 AM  
Jon F. said...

Richard,

Fascinating article. I checked out the websites you linked to, and came across an interesting weather radar loop.

http://www.thewebfairy.com/fonebone/dispart.shtml?ID=64

It's a similar 'vortex' that you show in your article, yet this one is dated the 11th of August, 2003. It's the same exact location, as well.

What do you make of it?

27/9/05 2:38 AM  
Richard C. Hoagland said...

s2ndsight said...

>Lots of people here agree with you, otherwise, they would probably not be reading your site. But I don't see any deliberate statement in your theory that could be used to disprove it. Do you have any such test?

>I believe you have discovered the "shadow" of HD energy. I believe you have shown how HD energy, whatever "it" is, is manifested in planetary systems weather patterns... including our own planet. I believe you have very strong arguments to indicate that our current understanding of physics is missing critical details. I just don't believe there is any evidence that somebody is controlling, manipulating, or otherwise doing anything but reacting to the weather. If the weather IS being manipulated, the intent is to bankrupt us. Supposedly, Reagan bankrupted the USSR with his military spending... his administration took credit for it anyway.

>There are examples of pentagonal symmetry all over nature... it doesn't mean somebody is controlling the formation of wild orchids or apple cores.

I also believe it wouldn't be too terribly difficult to deliberately manipulate NEXRAD radar loops for you guys to swoop down on. But I think it's far more likely that there is some current technological explaination for anomalies in radar images.

>In your God, Man, and ET series, you went to some trouble to make sure there was at least some dissenting opinions presented... but I felt sorry for the guy. He was obviously outnumbered and left speechless when it came to answering lots of your questions. But I think right or not, your premise is often based on an unfair combination of assumptions, unexplained anomaly and highly intriguing historical evidence. Just because a person can't tell you precisely why they think you are wrong, doesn't mean you are right. I personally think you are dead-on about some unbelievable things. I just don't want to see you led out into the woods and shot!

>I'm not smart enough to be your devils advocate. But I'm trying. We know very little about weather patterns that span 1000's of years on our planet. We know very little... period.<



I'm glad you noticed that I went to some trouble to see that "dissenting opinion" was represented. in fact, I spent a LOT of time (and money!) seeing to it that that opinion was even lavishly illustrated .... :)

But, on your larger point: I'm puzzled.

Of course I'm not right about "everything." I don't have to be. Because--

"It only take ONE white crow ... to prove all crows aren't black!"

And we now have entire FLOCKS (by your own admission) of "beautiful, white crows ...." :)

27/9/05 2:45 AM  
Richard C. Hoagland said...

Anonymous said...

>jasgrave333 said...
So a pirate, Knight, Ganga Rasta, is actually an 'Assasin', as in tormentor, and the message deliver or one of these 'non' christians, was 'THE' Assasin...

>I lead this straight back to REVELATION 9, (CAT 'O' NINE TALES) Rev 9, speaks of these 'TORMENTORS' (locust like ones with STINGS IN THEIR TALES hi hi hi) be 'prophesied' to return with GOD's blessing and are "Assasins" Sword?

>You are perhaps the most confused person I have ever encountered. :-)
The point I was trying to make, and probaly didn't clairify is that "black-op's" is just another version of MAD. Technology is "new" to this culture. What did you do in the 11th century when muslim ninjas where running all over the place taking out Knights and cuaseing general havok... ...you go get your own ninja's. [NOTE: I find it very intresting that online reffrances of assasian only reffer to Muslims... "Assasins" -or- Hashisians - WHERE NOT only from the middle east - NOR where the first to employ this method of training/warfare]
My attempt earlier Jas - was to seperate myself from The Order of the Knights of Malta/Templar and my orginization: Sword (still Knights of Malta/Templar) which is of its own seperate lodge and teachings. I want to be very clear who is affiliated with whom before the real DISCLOSER happens and everybody think where something else.

>While it is everyones god given right to bash the Masons - but - looking around - I know we outnumber those who wish us ill... ...zo, with that being said - The NEW generations of Masons(Lion/Kiwanis Masons included) are VERY tired of hideing as criminals from ingnorant uneducated rabble. Part of DISCLOSER is the acts of the newer generation Masons preforming the three pillars of their faith, which are FAITH, HOPE, & CHARITY - openly - public - as Masons and almost in a "In your face" attitude way to THE MAN.

>In any event - did any catch "West-Wing" last night? If you did, you might have cuaght the "Messonic emblem" in the first scene worn as a lapel pin by a White House Staffer. You might have also caught the fact that in the second scene - right after first commerical break. The president (not to sure on this) says to the Cheif of staff: "What do we tell the russians? Tell them that the armored space shuttle that we flatly deny we have will be leaveing Vanderburg in hours...." VANDERBURG! HELLO! What a dam cowinkie dink huh?

>Rich has posted an article regarding some of the INCREADABLE messages hidden in this show. West Wing is FULL (every episode has increable Masonic overtones - not just with script - but with imagery and symbolism (signs...tick tock tick tock) :-).

>I'd love to hear what Rich might say about this "opening move"...

>Sir(?) Richard - what say you?

>Sword<



I watch ALL the West Wings VERY carefully. And, yes, I noticed all these little "tips" ....

And, double yes: I think Aaron Sorkin is STILL writing the scripts ... behind the scenes ... even though he supposedly "quit" after writing "Life on Mars." :)

Stay tuned.

27/9/05 2:56 AM  
Richard C. Hoagland said...

aworldnervelink said...

>Boy, critical thinking is in short supply around here. Any anomaly which is centered upon the radar itself is ABSOLUTELY MEANINGLESS, because of the well-documented and numerous ways in which NEXRAD can malfunction. If you can find an image of such vortexes from a different perspective, not centered on the radar itself, then you might have something. Due to the scale of the purported manipulation and the density of the NEXRAD stations this should not be that difficult...<



That's precisely what makes the August 17 radar from New Orleans So intersting: the vortices seen in the 18-minute loop (3 ... possibly 3) are NOT centered on the radar. They seem, instead, to be centered off the coast .. over the (cloudless and rainless) Gulf ....

So much for "critical VIEWING" of the actual data from your side ....

27/9/05 3:13 AM  
M said...

Things are warming up you say? That would work with the "More aetheric energies" seeping into our world.

Doh, in other words the "SEA OF ENERGY" becomes more dense. Click. That's why storms are able to get stronger and are becoming "easier" to lure...well especially the easier to lure part...it's a lot easier to get swept along by a big river than a small stream :)

Took me long enough. dinary radar sequence ... is the standard NEXRAD radar signal being -- somehow -- reflected back from the clear air over and around New